JUPITERASC
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methods used to obtain "Horary description"
is not the same as using Natal RECTIFICATION- which requires natal chart
Did the cop want to kill George Floyd?
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methods used to obtain "Horary description"
is not the same as using Natal RECTIFICATION- which requires natal chart
tikana
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Heres a thing.
Pretty much horary wss at the beginning trial and fail/try again.
You dont need to fight on 8th house issue. More light comes out on this we will know whats going on. Logically 8th house cannot represent George however its an important house.
Moon corules a person. So lord of 8th being moon as a coruler can represent a victim thats dead/victim. Now here we have 7 and i involved.
8th is not superior but supporting house. I wish lilly explained better ...
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We have to keep this thread going everybody. Simply because the OP original question, did cop want to kill floyd? This question is so very important. Why? Because the upgraded charges and arrest of 3 others are solely based on intent. Jupiter in fall is literally taking the fall. Wisdom everyone brings here is valuable.
aquarius7000
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Sad some are not mature enough to understand that in plain English.
We don't always need big names to underscore our pick of house. Perhaps try and understand how they became big names in the first place instead of using that to attack others and spoil somebody's thread. We have all had our experiences through our chart readings and practice (at least those that actually do astrology) and learning curve through that, and so learn to think for ourselves.
Merely to answer the question, I could say read Watters and read Houlding (and I did) who quotes her. People with the aim of hijacking threads to settle scores get hung up upon - oh but she put that in the Events section. Well, learn to think for yourself a bit - because - guess what - this actually was an event.
I could say - read Lilly to satisfy those harping about sources - they would then bicker about oh but where has he used it. Well, guess what, go ask Lilly that. He hasn't always provided an example for what he put in his book. I can tell you (as I did) I have used it in my life and had success with interpreting charts with the 8th. I do not need to give any further justification than that. It is ok if you don't like my choice, but it is not ok to ridicule a person. My choice and explanation of it does not make my post an "echo chamber". People's attacks make it that.
Those opting for another house - well they must have their reasons and that is ok. I don't need to put them down and say the 7th is incorrect or the 1st is incorrect even though both those do not make sense to me and I have the right to decide what does and does not make sense to me without having to quote a Lilly or a Frawley or anyone.
Because the 7th house does not make sense to me, I do not need to attack those picking the 7th and throw my experience or Lilly's mention of 8th for the victim at them (regardless of whether he gave us the pleasure of an interpretation with it or not, while mentioning 8th), etc at them and keep hounding them. That method must really make for good Astrology.
Amazing how this thread has been hijacked to attack one another on their interpretation of the chart.
JUPITERASC
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but
Horary is based on a long tradition of William Lilly, Sahl et al
for example
beginners have FREE online tutorial at:
A basic, introductory course on horary to get you started - with interactive assignments and online resources
siriusly
- so you are claiming
"we"
are allowed
to
"think for yourselves"
Houlding , Hand et al always cite sources
check it out
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html
JUPITERASC
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tikana
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The answer is still a No. He didmt want George dead. It was in a protocol. Theres no evidence in the video, theres no evidence in the chart. They are going down because they werent aware of potential death caused by pressure on the neck and they didnt perfor cpr and they didnt tell the paramedics what happend.
tikana
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Sad some are not mature enough to understand that in plain English.
We don't always need big names to underscore our pick of house. Perhaps try and understand how they became big names in the first place instead of using that to attack others and spoil somebody's thread. We have all had our experiences through our chart readings and practice (at least those that actually do astrology) and learning curve through that, and so learn to think for ourselves.
Merely to answer the question, I could say read Watters and read Houlding (and I did) who quotes her. People with the aim of hijacking threads to settle scores get hung up upon - oh but she put that in the Events section. Well, learn to think for yourself a bit - because - guess what - this actually was an event.
I could say - read Lilly to satisfy those harping about sources - they would then bicker about oh but where has he used it. Well, guess what, go ask Lilly that. He hasn't always provided an example for what he put in his book. I can tell you (as I did) I have used it in my life and had success with interpreting charts with the 8th. I do not need to give any further justification than that. It is ok if you don't like my choice, but it is not ok to ridicule a person. My choice and explanation of it does not make my post an "echo chamber". People's attacks make it that.
Those opting for another house - well they must have their reasons and that is ok. I don't need to put them down and say the 7th is incorrect or the 1st is incorrect even though both those do not make sense to me and I have the right to decide what does and does not make sense to me without having to quote a Lilly or a Frawley or anyone.
Because the 7th house does not make sense to me, I do not need to attack those picking the 7th and throw my experience or Lilly's mention of 8th for the victim at them (regardless of whether he gave us the pleasure of an interpretation with it or not, while mentioning 8th), etc at them and keep hounding them. That method must really make for good Astrology.
Amazing how this thread has been hijacked to attack one another on their interpretation of the chart.
Lilly comtradicts himself as well... so the chart has to make sense. A lot of hia charts dont.
Like buying Mr B's house. He flips from lord of 7th to almuten/resident of 7th house to describe a seller and assign priority as a main lord.
I m sure they will testify in court and recordings will be introduced. We have them.
I agree, there was no intent. Therefore the upgraded charges are unwarranted. Perhaps manslaughter would be appropriate. Keith Ellison attorney General word for word was we are upgrading the charges solely based on intent. Accident not intent, warrants manslaughter.
tikana
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The reason to upgrade was he didnt perform cpr and he didnt tell paramedics what happened
DA wont for 1st deg murder, that's overkill. Da would fail.
Lets wait until trial. We will know.
They were threatning people who were telling them, hes not breathing with pepper spray.
It would have been.manslaughter if George died after they performed cpr.
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aquarius7000
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In one of my previous posts (if it still exists) I had asked the ThreadOP if their main reason for starting this thread was out of sympathy for Floyd and therefore wanting to know the intent behind the event that happened. My reason for asking was because, In My Opinion, a possible assignment of houses would/could then be the first to Floyd as he becomes the main character (the protagonist).
Yes I see. I wonder what protocols considering this pandemic, with covid, and of course the officer had no way of knowing he had covid, if charges would stick.
tikana
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Plus his stint at robbery in 2009.
He was convicted.
Notice that Merc hated jup ...
Jup doesnt care for merc.
without an aspect. Lord 7 hated the cops?
It's not part of the question.
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I get it,, totally valid, I was under the impression, upon casting a chart, The house in question was to be assigned prior to casting of the chart. I have had trouble in the past/recent past of wording my questions. Ms Aria kindly and firmly explained the importance of how the wording is important.
Yes!!! That is why I said in my initial post this was a culmination of both parties previous actions.
tikana
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Intent is hard to pin point
Its like "does xyz think about me?"
Question should be is "what are circumstances around death of xyz by xxx"
Ura or mars on asce woild be almost always accidental. Mutual hate + aspect = intentional.
Moon last aspect what lead to the altrication
tikana
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Ik ik
Chauvin ran a license plate (must have)
Saw a previous conviction, thought i got him.
Got wreckless and killed the guy.
david starling
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Or, killed him on purpose knowing he could get away with it.
Yes maybe, running plates is protocol but he was responding to a 911 call of somebody who per the callers words of "somebody who is drunk or something" and not in control of themselves."
He tried buying a pack of smokes with a fake twenty. Was turned away to within minutes come back and try to buy a pack with the same twenty. Still doesn't warrant a death.
JUPITERASC
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professional answers regarding possible "intent" from a Lung Doctor
who Analyzes George Floyd Autopsy Report
(MEDICAL EXPLANATION)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oqEp63duIc
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