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Saturn Jupiter transits

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I have read somewhere that the outer planet transits to each other eg Pluto Uranus etc are more generational. In terms of transits between Saturn and Jupiter (whether square, conjunct, trine etc) how important are these on a personal level compared to say Uranus moon for example? I am asking in general as opposed to my transits.

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Hi
I have read somewhere that the outer planet transits to each other
eg Pluto Uranus etc are more generational.

In terms of transits between Saturn and Jupiter
(whether square, conjunct, trine etc)

how important are these on a personal level
compared to say Uranus moon for example?
I am asking in general as opposed to my transits.

Thankyou for any responses
Jupiter's alignment with Saturn
occurs at intervals of just under 20 years
The aspect is occasionally repeated due to a retrograde
of one or both planets.
Each successive conjunction
not counting retrograde repeats
occurs at a mean advance of
approximately 243 degrees relative to its predecessor
although from one alignment to the next
this arc can vary considerably.

Every third conjunction
i.e.
once every 60 years
brings the alignment back
to its starting place, plus around 9 degrees:
this 60 year cycle is termed
FIRST ORDER RECURRENCE of the conjunction.


therefore
study your natal chart
and find the house in which
transiting Jupiter conjuncted with natal Saturn most recently
then note that
the next transiting Jupiter conjunct with natal Saturn
is twelve years after that
and so on


to delineate the affects of these transits to natal chart
requires careful study of the natal promise
of natal Jupiter and natal Saturn


by the way
In ancient times Jupiter and Saturn were
the outermost known planets
and were called by astrologers of old the "Great Chronocrators".
For millennia
the alignment of these two planets
has been regarded
as a significator of great social
economic
and
political watersheds - historic turning points, if you will.
hence
referred to as
"The Great Conjunction"
clearly then
Juiter Saturn conjunctions have been charted for millenia
by MUNDANE ASTROLOGERS

by the way
Mundane astrology is very Hierarchical
thus
Starting with the Grand Conjunction
your Natal Chart would be 7th in the pecking order
and
Horary is below your Natal Chart
and is lowest on the Mundane Hierarchy

and so
the significance
of these MUNDANE GREAT CONJUNCTIONS
is linked to the individual natal chart
and is assessed
in tandem with the current MUNDANE GREAT CONJUNCTION chart


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Jupiter's alignment with Saturn
occurs at intervals of just under 20 years
The aspect is occasionally repeated due to a retrograde
of one or both planets.
Each successive conjunction
not counting retrograde repeats
occurs at a mean advance of
approximately 243 degrees relative to its predecessor
although from one alignment to the next
this arc can vary considerably.

Every third conjunction
i.e.
once every 60 years
brings the alignment back
to its starting place, plus around 9 degrees:
this 60 year cycle is termed
FIRST ORDER RECURRENCE of the conjunction.


therefore
study your natal chart
and find the house in which
transiting Jupiter conjuncted with natal Saturn most recently
then note that
the next transiting Jupiter conjunct with natal Saturn
is twelve years after that
and so on


to delineate the affects of these transits to natal chart
requires careful study of the natal promise
of natal Jupiter and natal Saturn


by the way
In ancient times Jupiter and Saturn were
the outermost known planets
and were called by astrologers of old the "Great Chronocrators".
For millennia
the alignment of these two planets
has been regarded
as a significator of great social
economic
and
political watersheds - historic turning points, if you will.
hence
referred to as
"The Great Conjunction"
clearly then
Juiter Saturn conjunctions have been charted for millenia
by MUNDANE ASTROLOGERS

by the way
Mundane astrology is very Hierarchical
thus
Starting with the Grand Conjunction
your Natal Chart would be 7th in the pecking order
and
Horary is below your Natal Chart
and is lowest on the Mundane Hierarchy

and so
the significance
of these MUNDANE GREAT CONJUNCTIONS
is linked to the individual natal chart
and is assessed
in tandem with the current MUNDANE GREAT CONJUNCTION chart


Thankyou again for your input. You know so much about astrology and present it coherently. You should teach it if you don't already.
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Thankyou again for your input.

You know so much about astrology and present it coherently.
You should teach it if you don't already.

happy to be of use
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So the next conjunction is due in December shown in the chart above?

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So the next conjunction is due in December shown in the chart above?

correct
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.....one transit says nothing about anything.


A good Astrologer
will consider at least 3 potential triggers/ confirmations before deciding.

Also two people's charts might have the same "transit",
but they will not have the same transits over every house
in relation with
those house rulers

and

where they are placed.
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So is this saying that a Jupiter conjunct Saturn can impact on an individual chart but that one transit isn't enough to necessarily be seen in life? It is likely to impact if there are other transits and/ or natal aspects that contribute to an overall theme? Eg if Jupiter or Saturn of maybe the ruler of the house is being aspected by transit then that could make a difference. As it is like trying to teach a worm me trying to pull all these things together. It is a really interesting subject area but the more I learn the more there is even more to learn. I should have done a diploma when I thought about years ago.
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So is this saying that a Jupiter conjunct Saturn can impact on an individual chart but that one transit isn't enough to necessarily be seen in life? It is likely to impact if there are other transits and/ or natal aspects that contribute to an overall theme? Eg if Jupiter or Saturn of maybe the ruler of the house is being aspected by transit then that could make a difference. As it is like trying to teach a worm me trying to pull all these things together. It is a really interesting subject area but the more I learn the more there is even more to learn. I should have done a diploma when I thought about years ago.

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Re: Saturn Jupiter transits

EVERY transit can only be read in relation to a birth chart (a chart of a time and place.)

So every planet is vital. Two planets can be conj in space at any time, but how does this impact YOUR life? You find that out by delineating those transit planets to each planet in YOUR chart.

And when there are conjunctions in space, each planet needs to be delineated to every planet in your chart also. When they are VERY close, then the way you express this is ...for instance, Saturn/Jupiter sextile Sun....or Saturn/Jupiter square Mars....or whatever it happens to be in your chart.

In the case of Saturn and Jupiter it's tricky as Saturn represents the ''great NO" and Jupiter represents the ''great YES". So.....structured growth....

This conj has been referred to (in the natal chart) as a ''last chance lifetime". BUT also as "a new chance lifetime."

Frankly, I don't like to make judgement like that. This conj in a natal chart can mean MANY things depending upon the sign, house, and other aspects.
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EVERY transit can only be read in relation to a birth chart (a chart of a time and place.)

So every planet is vital. Two planets can be conj in space at any time, but how does this impact YOUR life? You find that out by delineating those transit planets to each planet in YOUR chart.

And when there are conjunctions in space, each planet needs to be delineated to every planet in your chart also. When they are VERY close, then the way you express this is ...for instance, Saturn/Jupiter sextile Sun....or Saturn/Jupiter square Mars....or whatever it happens to be in your chart.

In the case of Saturn and Jupiter it's tricky as Saturn represents the ''great NO" and Jupiter represents the ''great YES". So.....structured growth....

This conj has been referred to (in the natal chart) as a ''last chance lifetime". BUT also as "a new chance lifetime."

Frankly, I don't like to make judgement like that. This conj in a natal chart can mean MANY things depending upon the sign, house, and other aspects.
LIN
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