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[QUOTE=dr. farr;440980]In my ongoing analysis of the directions and conjunctional transits of the victims, I have found many directions involving Pluto; further I have found several conjuntional transits of Pluto to natal Sun, or of transiting Sun to natal Pluto...

Interesting, and not surprising...what is the mystery of this karma when children die so young in this way? And then their educators, too...

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i took the data you gave and created another Connecticut chart including Ceres (Alice McDermott stated that she has seen Ceres involved around death etc) and Lillith. I have added the transits from Dec. 12th 2012 as well.

I also did a quick check of the synastry charts of Obama & Connecticut....and see that Connecticut's Ceres is conjunct his natal Pluto...
Thanks! I'm re-attaching the Connecticut chart with transits for 12/21/2012, too. (thanks, Sticky notes Aquarius 7000!)
Edit- attaching the Connecticut chart with transits for 12/14/2012

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In my ongoing analysis of the directions and conjunctional transits of the victims, I have found many directions involving Pluto; further I have found several conjuntional transits of Pluto to natal Sun, or of transiting Sun to natal Pluto...
Interesting, and not surprising...what is the mystery of this karma when children die so young in this way? And then their educators, too...
NEVERTHELESS transits of Pluto to natal Sun AND transiting to natal Pluto involve the natal charts of every one of three hundred and eighty four thousand people born the same day as the victims. A good example of the slow movement of Dwarf planet Pluto is that ALL twenty of the children massacred shared their individual Pluto aspects with approximately seventy seven million people who were collectively born on the days that these 20 children were collectively born

The most crucial and reliable indicators are the Moon AND the four angles of the natal charts of all of these children - i.e. their ASC/DESC/IC/MC angles HOWEVER WITHOUT AN EXACT TIME OF BIRTH THOSE ARE NOT KNOWN
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NEVERTHELESS transits of Pluto to natal Sun AND transiting to natal Pluto involve the natal charts of every one of three hundred and eighty four thousand people born the same day as the victims. A good example of the slow movement of Dwarf planet Pluto is that ALL twenty of the children massacred shared their individual Pluto aspects with approximately seventy seven million people who were collectively born on the days that these 20 children were collectively born

The most crucial and reliable indicators are the Moon AND the four angles of the natal charts of all of these children - i.e. their ASC/DESC/IC/MC angles HOWEVER WITHOUT AN EXACT TIME OF BIRTH THOSE ARE NOT KNOWN
Agreed! Astrology has many parts that make up a whole picture, and and have to be factored together to make a whole picture. And yes, same aspects play out in myriad ways, have many potentials. Also, there are many levels of vibration to each of the planets, so consciousness plays a great part in how a planet's energy would manifest.

To clarify, what I was referring to was a general question about the karma or mission of the victims.
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Wow, this from a mom of one of the victims-

Becky takes a deep breath on Wednesday in the funeral home and says, “Okay, the best day of my life started on Sunday morning when my son came to me in a vision. He came to tell me to explain to my husband that the scope of this event was so large and that there were so many people around the country and the world we were touching. I felt that my son was here in this vision to tell me that the not-for-profit scholarship organization that we are starting in Chase’s honor will save lives, change building codes, demand gun and ammunition control, and that in Chase’s name I would like to bring God back to America. These are the first starting goals of the organization.”


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omg even the KKK... now they are going way over the line.
Another individual publicly 'going way over the line' on Sean Hannity also claimed "It was all God's plan" that he shot dead an unarmed schoolboy at point blank range with a direct shot aimed deliberately at the child's heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eZxpwb0UYuk even though the kid was simply on the way home carrying nothing more lethal than a can of Arizona Ice Tea and a bag of Skittles candy that he had moments before purchased from the 7-Eleven store for a younger family member. The schoolboy minor teen's final terrifying moments of his brief life were fortunately captured on a 911 call made by a frightened neighbour who heard him screaming, yelling for help, begging for his life approximately a minute before his life was brutally and ruthlessly terminated with a single gunshot that instantaneously destroyed 25% of his innocent young heart - I say 'fortunately' because that 911 call is incontrovertible evidence that directly challenges the 'self-defence' claim of the individual who is clearly expecting that the idea that "It was all God's plan" means he won't be held responsible for his actions that night.
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NEVERTHELESS transits of Pluto to natal Sun AND transiting to natal Pluto involve the natal charts of every one of three hundred and eighty four thousand people born the same day as the victims. A good example of the slow movement of Dwarf planet Pluto is that ALL twenty of the children massacred shared their individual Pluto aspects with approximately seventy seven million people who were collectively born on the days that these 20 children were collectively born

The most crucial and reliable indicators are the Moon AND the four angles of the natal charts of all of these children - i.e. their ASC/DESC/IC/MC angles HOWEVER WITHOUT AN EXACT TIME OF BIRTH THOSE ARE NOT KNOWN

But this is where directions come into play: so far in my investigation of the directions of the victims, all who had a conjunctional Pluto/Sun transit ALSO had a net - (numerical) total of planetary directions as well. Further, more than a fourth **of the victims had Pluto as atmakaraka in their natal charts* (ie, a Jaimini Vedic concept of the special importance of the planet in the natal chart with the highest number of degrees in any sign), and the 9:35 AM event chart places the MC right on (partile conjunction) Adam Lanza's natal Pluto.

Yes the angles (and I would add the Moon and certain Lots) are primary indicators in directions, transits, etc, however planetary directions are not to be tossed aside as useless, not by any means!! When, as is the case here, all we have is data which gives us the planets (other than the Moon, which is too swift to use for directions without at least a fairly accurate time of birth), we can still get at least an approximation of operative influences regarding an event or the co-relation of directional tendencies in the lives of those involved in such an event.


*Since Pluto is only 1 of 10 planets, it should (by averages) have been atmakaraka in 1/10th of the charts (10%); being so in 1/4th of the charts (25%) is much above the anticipated statistical average to be expected from randomness...

**update 12/22/12: more than 1/3rd (exactly 34%) of victims have Pluto as atmakaraka in their natal charts, more than 3 times the % to be expected from random distribution of planets.

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....and the 9:35 AM event chart places the MC right on (partile conjunction) Adam Lanza's natal Pluto.
ALSO in partile conjunction with Pluto in the natal charts of EVERY PERSON whose natal Pluto is at the same degree as Adam Lanza's and that's approximately three hundred and eighty four thousand people worldwide.

Pluto remains on the same degree for more than 24 hours - and even longer when stationary retrograde or stationary direct
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This article below speculates on the tragedy being a government sponsored psy-op of some kind, in view of the many inconsistencies in the official story that has been given out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...ut-of-control/
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This article below speculates on the tragedy being a government sponsored psy-op of some kind, in view of the many inconsistencies in the official story that has been given out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...ut-of-control/
There seems something out of sync Sweet Pea - because this link has actual news clips that seem to show events that are conflicting with events as previously reported by media - although the media are known for their inaccuracies and exaggerations - these are the stories of actual witnesses in some cases children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhdiqv3NN4
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In my ongoing analysis of the directions and conjunctional transits of the victims, I have found many directions involving Pluto; further I have found several conjuntional transits of Pluto to natal Sun, or of transiting Sun to natal Pluto...

Thanks (Joz) for the Connecticut chart: might be interesting to make a composite of that chart with the chart for the time of the shooting (9:35 AM-ir perhaps 9:29 AM-12/14/12)
Here's the composite chart for Connecticut (when it joined the Union/USA in 1788) with the Newtown shooting, and also Connecticut 1788 with transits for the day of the Newtown shooting on 12/14/12.

Not sure how valid the ascendant for the composite chart is, since the 1788 Connecticut chart has unknown time and it's a sunrise chart. But it's weird that Capricorn is there again on the Ascendant, and Pluto is rising. There are lots of interesting things that pop up in these charts, and I'd like to study more closely with more time.
Also, again I think that the Eris exact conjunction to Sun in the 1788 chart is significant.

There's a "suicide by mass murder" thread that also shows connections to these events-http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58420

Among them is a recurring theme of prominence of the signs of Capricorn and Cancer. Capricorn ruling bureaucracy, government fits with NRA vs Washington ongoing debate. And law enforcement officials, too.

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I noticed something interest in the Connecticut joins the Union chart composite: Pluto is the atmakarka planet in that chart! As I have posted elsewhere regarding Pluto and the Sandusky massacre, Pluto is parallel the ascending degree in the 9:35 AM massacre chart, many of the victims had Sun transiting their natal Pluto at the time of the event, and fully 34% of the victims had Pluto as atmakarak planet in their natal chart. Here we find (by coincidence according to some of our debunking friends) that Pluto is the atmakaraka in the Connecticut joining the Union composite chart as well.
According to Chinese astrological philosophy, the location where one is at, activates (or deactivates) the operative astrological influences upon each particular person at that location at that particular time-this is called "scheduling and positioning" in ancient Chinese astrology and ties it directly into the co-astrological art of feng shui: we hardly consider such locational-activating of astrological factors, in Western astrology (although the field of astro-cartography touches upon this to a certain limited extent), however we once did (in the field of geomancy, prior that becoming a seperate divination method)

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In looking at star connections in the Sandy Hook massacre 9:35 AM chart, in checking with the 5 "malefic" planets (Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto), only 1 of those planets has a close longitudinal conjunction with a star: that planet is Pluto, which is right on Facies, a nebula of the nature of Sun conj. Mars, which, among its indications (Robson, eg) are "accidents and a violent death"..(of course our debunking friends will consider this yet just another coincidence)

Lilith is the only other factor in that 9:35 AM massacre chart which involves a major fixed star connection-here Lilith is right on Aldebaran (the martial associations of this great star are too well known to need comment), although the whole-sign 12th house Sun in that chart does conjunct Lesath, a start in the sting of the Scorpion constellation, of the nature of Mars conj. Mercury and which can indicate "...danger, desperation...and malevolence..." (qv Robson).

While some disregard Pluto (and the outers in general), many more disregard Lilith and even more assign the stars to the dustbin: not me, though!! To me all of these factors are potentially valuable as co-factors in coming to an understanding of the totality of Cosmic influences operative in a given event, or in a given life....

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....There's a "suicide by mass murder" thread that also shows connections to these events-http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58420

Among them is a recurring theme of prominence of the signs of Capricorn and Cancer. Capricorn ruling bureaucracy, government fits with NRA vs Washington ongoing debate. And law enforcement officials, too.

Any insights are appreciated....

Regarding the Cancer/Capricorn link
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The Cancer/Capricorn pairing is clearly significant since it occurs in both charts, reversed for each case i.e. Cancer ascendant means Capricorn descendant and Capricorn ascendant means Cancer descendant.

Mars is involved with violent acts and Mars is of course the exalted ruler of Capricorn. And Capricorn was on the ascendant of one of the tragedies and the descendant of the other tragedy.

Cancer I agree is associated with the Public as well as mothers and interestingly, Mars is dignified in Cancer as Mars rules both day and night Triplicity of Cancer. HOWEVER since Cancer is the sign of Mars fall, Mars is not well placed in Cancer
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Historically there is a substantial minority in both Western and Vedic astrological traditions, who consider that a planet in debility (such as Mars in Cancer, its Fall) brings out the negative and unbalanced ("malefic") influences of that planet, and that a planet in dignity emphasizes the constructive, balanced and positive ("benefic") influences of that planet, or at least somewhat mitigates its "malefic" influences*: while the majority view (in Traditionalist Western and also in Vedic) astrology holds an opposite opinion, I share the minority perspective on this matter, ie, that the more debilitated a planet is, the more likely it is to express its negative/unbalanced/disruptive qualities.


(*since Mars is strong by house and exalted by sign in the 9:35 AM Sandusky massacre chart, holding the view I have expressed above, I consider Pluto to have exerted a greater malefic influence regarding this event, than did Mars)

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Wow, this from a mom of one of the victims-

Becky takes a deep breath on Wednesday in the funeral home and says, “Okay, the best day of my life started on Sunday morning when my son came to me in a vision. He came to tell me to explain to my husband that the scope of this event was so large and that there were so many people around the country and the world we were touching. I felt that my son was here in this vision to tell me that the not-for-profit scholarship organization that we are starting in Chase’s honor will save lives, change building codes, demand gun and ammunition control, and that in Chase’s name I would like to bring God back to America. These are the first starting goals of the organization.”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz2Fgnd2BwW
Here's more from this article about Chase's dad, and if anyone's interested, the foundation information is below:

“I’m completely on board,” says Stephen. “I believe my son did visit his mom. I have never before seen a look on Becky’s face like that morning. I believe now that things like that can happen. I was amazed at the peace and strength Becky received from that vision. She’s transferred it to me. I’m at peace now, too. Feeling strong. After she told me what Chase had said I got up and went straight to the bank and opened the scholarship fund that morning. Because I feel, like Becky, that Chase is still with us and will be in the work of the organization in his name.”

Contributions can be sent to the Chase Kowalski Scholarship Fund c/o People’s Bank, 470 Monroe Turnpike, Monroe, CT 06468.
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“....Mars is within one ecliptical degree of the Contra-Antiscion of Jupiter at 20CAP14'. Likewise retrograde Jupiter is within one degree of the Contra-Antiscion of Mars at 8GEM55'. This connection, usually understood like a hidden opposition, perfected on the day prior to the event. Exalted Mars, much stronger than debilitated Jupiter, got the upper hand.

Using whole sign topical places, the Lot of Death (Saturn + beginning of 8th place - Moon) is at 27TAU37'. Considering its movement since the conjunction with Mars at 9h12 EST, the Ascendant perfected the applying trine to the Lot of Death before perfecting the sextile to middling Venus....”
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Using whole sign topical places, the Lot of Death (Saturn + beginning of 8th place - Moon) is at 27TAU37'

Notice:
-that the Pars Mortis here is within a bit over a degree and a half of conjunction with the Dragon's Tail (@25Taurus56)
-that the Pars Mortis is within a degree and a half of longitudinal conjunction with Algol (@26Taurus10)
Basically we find the Pars Mortis conjoined (under 2 degrees) with a SN/Algol conjunction.
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Refreshing this thread (especially for those who are interested in looking at the Lilith connection to this event)
I think it def. shouldn't be overlooked.
Lilith has been known as a killer of children and seducer of men.
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Right!
Notice in the 9:35 AM event chart, the close conjunction of a detrimented Jupiter with Lilith, and Lilith channeling through itself the very martial influences of the star Aldebaran with which Lilith is in longitudinal conjunction. Note the fact that Moon and Lilith are in exact quincuncx, and that the Part of Murder (10 Aries) is in exact aspectual relationship to Lilith (and to the Moon, which is detrimented in Capricorn, in the rising sign-by whole sign-@ 10 Capricorn) Lilith is within 2 degrees of quincunx also with 1st house (whole sign) Pluto, and with Saturn (Pluto 8 Capricorn, Saturn 8 Scorpio) By Pauline dodekatemorion, the Lilith dodek ramification point falls @ 14 Virgo (9th whole sign house), where it is in exact opposition to the Part of Danger and Violence (which falls @ 14Pisces30, in the 3rd whole sign house)
...there are other Lilith connections when looking at the planetary birth charts of the victims, the planetary directions involved, etc, which I will post at a later time...
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Filmmaker and Author William Brandon Shanley Launches Wave of Lawsuits for more than $1 Trillion Against Big Media
In another shocking twist in the Sandy Hook saga, Filmmaker and Author William Brandon Shanley Launches Wave of Lawsuits for more than $1 Trillion Against Big Media Over Sandy Hook Massacre Coverage.
Here is Mr. Shanley’s Statement:


“After exhaustive research, the good news is that overwhelming evidence reveals that no children or teachers died at Sandy Hook two years ago. For relief, I have filed lawsuits against the media in US District Court in New Haven for Fraud and Terrorism.

Defendants entered in a multi-year conspiracy, meeting in groups separately and together, to commit fraud and terrorism, i.e., to brainwash the public into thinking a lone gunman drill known as the “Sandy Hook Massacre” was real, when in fact it was a staged FEMA National Level Exercise Event that redirected government resources to terrorize the public. These crimes were undertaken with the intent of subverting the US Constitution and to affect national, state and local laws."

( the fbi has admitted that there were no deaths at sandy hook even though the dtaged event was reported as truth by the media)

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In another shocking twist in the Sandy Hook saga, Filmmaker and Author William Brandon Shanley Launches Wave of Lawsuits for more than $1 Trillion Against Big Media Over Sandy Hook Massacre Coverage.

by Jack Murphy; additions by Alexander Light

Here is Mr. Shanley’s Statement:


“After exhaustive research, the good news is that overwhelming evidence reveals that no children or teachers died at Sandy Hook two years ago. For relief, I have filed lawsuits against the media in US District Court in New Haven for Fraud and Terrorism.

“Here is an example of our abundant evidence, Exhibit D: The Connecticut State Police dash cams record no evacuation of children from school at critical moments.”
Smoking Gun evidence no children died at Sandy Hook:



Here's more smoking gun evidence that Sandy Hook was staged:



Via RedFlagNews — Mr. Shanley is the producer of The Made-for-TV Election starring Martin Sheen that analyzed media coverage in the tectonic Carter-Reagan election of 1980.

He is also the author of books on quantum physics, including Alice and the Quantum Cat (2011).

Dr. James Fetzer, whose 35 articles on Sandy Hook for Veteran’s Today qualify him for the highest investigative journalism awards, and School Safety Consultant, Wolfgang Halbig, whose investigative expertise as a former Florida State Police officer, and loving attention as a former principal, makes this case’s particulars comprehensible to all, will be called as expert witnesses.

Mr. Shanley’s Complaint states, in part:

Defendants entered in a multi-year conspiracy, meeting in groups separately and together, to commit fraud and terrorism, i.e., to brainwash the public into thinking a lone gunman drill known as the “Sandy Hook Massacre” was real, when in fact it was a staged FEMA National Level Exercise Event that redirected government resources to terrorize the public.

These crimes were undertaken with the intent of subverting the US Constitution and to affect national, state and local laws.

This fraud involved lying to the public, faking news, publishing one-sided news reports, censoring reality, suppressing facts, and deliberately skewing the news to shift public perceptions.

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Lawyer Investigating Sandy Hook Found Dead

lawyer who was investigating the Sandy Hook shooting was found dead in his overturned car.
Police ruled Gugsa Abraham (Abe) Dabela’s death as a suicide despite a gunshot wound to the back of his head and “footprints” on his back.
His car was discovered on an isolated country road close to his home in small, upscale Redding, CT. The local police, including Chief Douglas Fuchs, determined right away that the car had purposely been crashed by Mr. Dabela because “he had been drinking”.
The local police, including Chief Douglas Fuchs, determined right away that the car had purposely been crashed by Mr. Dabela because “he had been drinking”.
Shortly before his death, Attorney Dabela, a bachelor, had frequented some of the local establishments to speak to Redding police and firemen about the events surrounding the Sandy Hook “massacre”.
According to CBS News, the family of the attorney found shot in the head in a wrecked car is suing police, saying they rushed to judgment in declaring the death a suicide and didn’t properly investigate because he was black.

The family’s lawyers also say Dabela got a text message on the night of his death that read, “turn he just didn’t.”
The lawsuit alleges information about the sender of the text was deleted sometime after Dabela’s death.

Another actor covering up Mr. Dabela’s death is Danbury State Attorney Stephen J. Sedensky who had star billing in the Sandy Hook saga.
He became a master in cover-ups. Sedensky acknowledged in his “official report” on Sandy Hook that they had been unable to connect the AR-15 is he alleged to have used with any of the slugs recovered and that the rifle he was supposed to have used to shot his mother did not have his fingerprints, which means that his investigation was unable to connect the weapons to the victims or the purported shooter, as a complete forensic failure


The death of Gugsa Dabela would not be the first associated with Sandy Hook.
Tony Mead, who has done exceptional work on the charade, has noted a growing list of “disappearing witnesses” related to the case, which was published by James Tracy on his memoryholeblog.com on 10 July 2014. The complete article can be accessed here and in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook (2nd ed., 2016). His article was written in 2014 and since then the list of dead ppl surrounding Sandy Hook has more than tripled. More ppl have died after the event than in it.
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The Pluto and Dark Moon Lilith influences in this tragedy, go on and on...
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