aquarius7000
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That institution has been adept oftentimes at misguiding and misusing the century-old fact: "Religion is the opiate of the masses"
A Discussion Thread About Racism in America
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That institution has been adept oftentimes at misguiding and misusing the century-old fact: "Religion is the opiate of the masses"
Dirius
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The issue is pretty simple: whether the unborn fetus is a person or not.
If its not a person, you can do whatever you want with it
It it is a person, it has a right to life like everyone else.
david starling
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The botched vaccinations cause injury and even death to a minority of children. But, if your own child is in that "minority", the fact that it's a small percentage overall is still a personal tragedy.
david starling
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Is a zygote a "person" ?
aquarius7000
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Same as botched treatments to any disease. That can happen with anything.
Overall, generally speaking, if the discussion is about whether parents should have their children vaccinated against certain well-know epidemics and diseases - what do you say?
Obviously when a person raises that question, they do not have "botched" vaccines in mind.
david starling
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Is preventing fertilization using birth control methods the same thing as "ending a life"?
Dirius
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According to the law in most countries, including the U.S., it is.
For example: an unborn child has a right of inheritance, does he not?
david starling
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Same as botched treatments to any disease. That can happen with anything.
Overall, generally speaking, if the discussion is about whether parents should have their children vaccinated against certain well-know epidemics and diseases - what do you say?
Obviously when a person raises that question, they do not have "botched" vaccines in mind.
Part of the deal has to be considering these "relatively rare" risks of injuries and deaths unacceptable.
Dirius
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David all it requires to prevent these deaths or complications developed from bad reactions towards vaccines, is for pharmaceutical companies to develop a cheap and simple blood test, so prents can be sure children won't be negatively affected by the content of the vaccine.
The reason they don't, is because doing so would be an admission of guilt, which would open thousands of lawsuits.
david starling
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So, good old capitalistic profit-motive?
Dirius
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Does a zygote have right of inheritance in your country?
david starling
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Only if the inheritance is microscopic.
Dirius
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Answer like a grown person.
Can a zygote (through his mother) lay claim as heir to the estate of a deceased?
Dirius
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Jurisprudence of most nations recognises that a fetus has a certain set of legal rights - such as inheritance claims. This means that legally, in most countries, a fetus has legal personhood, which provides a set of rights and protections.
Ironically - a fetus, through an inheritance, would be subject to the payment of taxes of his or her estate.
Don't tell me a fetus is not person, when the law treats him as such.
Ironically - a fetus, through an inheritance, would be subject to the payment of taxes of his or her estate.
Don't tell me a fetus is not person, when the law treats him as such.
david starling
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Jurisprudence of most nations recognises that a fetus has a certain set of legal rights - such as inheritance claims. This means that legally, in most countries, a fetus has legal personhood, which provides a set of rights and protections.
Ironically - a fetus, through an inheritance, would be subject to the payment of taxes of his or her estate.
Don't tell me a fetus is not person, when the law treats him as such.
So, if the law is always right, were Slaves in the U.S. really just 3/5 of a person?
Dirius
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Personhood is a human right. And human rights are inalienable.
The law simply shows that your country recognises that the fetus has rights to property (inheritance), and as a consequence is considered a human being with personhood. Whether you find that law right or wrong is irrelevant.
He is a person by the current legal definition and is treated as such.
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david starling
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European law doesn't recognize fetal rights. The law in the Philippines doesn't recognize a mother's right to life if it's a choice between saving the mother or saving the fetus.
david starling
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The U.S. isn't a signatory to any such agreement. Neither is most of Europe.
It's a religious doctrine like Sharia Law.
david starling
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Are most "Right-to-Life" proponents in favor of the Death Penalty ?
Dirius
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What agreement? You are talking nonsense now.
Are you saying inheritance laws in the U.S. don't recognise the rights of the fetus?