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Lead, and zinc are effective moss control elements.
They protect what is below them

by leaving a covering on top
and killing any organism

that tries to grow underneath it
by leaching when it rains.
Traditionally
SATURN, SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS rules LEAD

LEAD IS A HIGHLY TOXIC METAL


AND
A VERY STRONG POISON


Lead poisoning is a serious and sometimes fatal condition.
It occurs when lead builds up in the body.
Lead is found in lead-based paints
including paint on the walls of old houses and toys.



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WHEN DELINEATING SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS

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The illnesses of SATURN

are those

proceeding from

cold, old age, melancholy or depressed spirits.
The pain associated with Saturn illnesses is dull and aching
rather than sharp or burning.
The fevers are those that involve alternating periods of chills
or a fit of shivering, such as malaria.
The damage of Saturn's illnesses tends towards a progressive wasting of tissue.
These include arthritis, rheumatism, depression, consumption,
colds, chills and flu
and all illnesses that involve muscle fatigue, difficulty in breathing
and watery discharges from the nose and eyes,
strokes, paralysis or palsy, bruises and dark marks
chronic illnesses, coughs, dropsy, starvation
morbid fantasies, fears and nightmares, gout, gangrene, haemorrhoids
defects to the hearing, leprosy, miscarriage, scabbiness, scabies and lice
infections of the skin, and illnesses arising from poisons
or damage to the spleen, teeth or bones
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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The illnesses of SATURN

are those

proceeding from

cold, old age, melancholy or depressed spirits.
The pain associated with Saturn illnesses is dull and aching
rather than sharp or burning.
The fevers are those that involve alternating periods of chills
or a fit of shivering, such as malaria.
The damage of Saturn's illnesses tends towards a progressive wasting of tissue.
These include arthritis, rheumatism, depression, consumption,
colds, chills and flu
and all illnesses that involve muscle fatigue, difficulty in breathing
and watery discharges from the nose and eyes,
strokes, paralysis or palsy, bruises and dark marks
chronic illnesses, coughs, dropsy, starvation
morbid fantasies, fears and nightmares, gout, gangrene, haemorrhoids
defects to the hearing, leprosy, miscarriage, scabbiness, scabies and lice
infections of the skin, and illnesses arising from poisons
or damage to the spleen, teeth or bones
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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Indeed. All of these are related in some way. I've always found it interesting that Saturn tends to produce restrictions and pains due to the lack of solar and lunar qualities it lacks. It is the planet that opposes the rulership of the Moon and the Sun, after all. A lack of moisture and a lack of heat makes the natives lack connection with their own emotions and others' (Moon) while also a lack of will to act (Solar). It definitely is more devastating than Mars, which only sins in regards to having a lack of empathy.

I'd say Saturn is more of a powerful influence than many other planets. It rules time, reality. The cold, hard truth - as it's often said.

Oh, and I really think that Aquarius fits Saturn quite well. This whole "hard reality" theme it has going really fits with the absolute logic, coldness and aloofness of Aquarius. Saturn is a very scientific, objective, cautious planet to me.

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Oh, and I really think that Aquarius fits Saturn quite well. This whole "hard reality" theme it has going really fits with the absolute logic, coldness and aloofness of Aquarius. Saturn is a very scientific, objective, cautious planet to me.

Traditionally

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Saturn is cooling and moderately drying, malefic, masculine and diurnal. Phainon makes those born under him dark-skinned, robust, black-haired, curly-haired, hairy-chested, and with eyes of moderate size, middling stature, having excess of cold and moist when morning rising, and dark, slender, small, straight-haired, with little bodily hair, rather graceful, black-eyed, having excess of cold and dry when evening rising, and in general, annoying, concealing, avaricious, ignorant, consistent, reserved, petty, malicious, having many anxieties, throwing themselves down, fond of solitude, deceitful, downcast, hypocritical, squalid, clothed in black, deviant, importunate, sullen and miserable. Saturn controls depressions and sluggishness, obstacles in business, interminable lawsuits, subversion of action, secrets, restraints, imprisonment, grief, accusations, tears, being orphaned, captivity, haunting, farmers, gardeners, workers of property, managers, seafaring and waterside trades, tax collectors, the elders, violent action, guardianship, great reputation, notable ranks, lands, administration of that which belongs to others, fathership of the children of others, bachelors, widows, childlessness, violent deaths by water, strangulation, dysentery, falling on the face, injuries and lower respiratory infections, the skeletal system, the lymphatic system and the immune system, building materials like wood and stone, lead, dark colours and astringent tastes. It chronocrator over late old age up to death.



Bibliography:
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http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf

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SATURN is cold

'....Saturn brings about power based on wealth and amassing of treasure...'
Naturally. Saturn never gives fortune unless through patience, hard work, integrity, steadiness, etc. I personally admire very much the qualities of Saturn. It's the definition of a blessing disguised as bad fortune.

As for it ruling Aquarius on its own (like the title of this thread), I personally think it fits well with the sign but don't reject the idea of Uranus ruling it as well.

It's a bit complicated - even if it rules Aquarius then it wouldn't directly have much of an effect on the personal lives of people, would it?. Uranus is definitely a higher, spiritual energy to me, which has an affinity for the sign. I believe each sign is a spectrum of meaning which vibrates on many levels - from the ones we can easily pinpoint to those that are far out of our human understanding.

For the purposes of simplicity it's easier to think of Saturn as the main ruler of Aquarius.

Most of us live our lives in a under the rule of Saturn. People push through hardships to try achieve material success. Work in jobs for decades to slowly achieve a sense of comfort, to buy a house and have a family of their own. They learn from bad experiences like heartbreak, depression, loneliness, etc. The world is far too unevolved to be centered around, say a Neptunian goal. That'd be way more focused on world-peace and unconditional love.
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SATURN is cold

and

dry

and inimical to life
What would we be without an energy that forced us to be objective and give us distance from emotions and life? We wouldn't have science, humility wouldn't exist. The most powerful force of astrology would be the integration of every planet in a perfect harmonic way. We need all of them, don't we?





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Saturn is cooling and moderately drying, malefic, masculine and diurnal. Phainon makes those born under him dark-skinned, robust, black-haired, curly-haired, hairy-chested, and with eyes of moderate size, middling stature, having excess of cold and moist when morning rising, and dark, slender, small, straight-haired, with little bodily hair, rather graceful, black-eyed, having excess of cold and dry when evening rising, and in general, annoying, concealing, avaricious, ignorant, consistent, reserved, petty, malicious, having many anxieties, throwing themselves down, fond of solitude, deceitful, downcast, hypocritical, squalid, clothed in black, deviant, importunate, sullen and miserable. Saturn controls depressions and sluggishness, obstacles in business, interminable lawsuits, subversion of action, secrets, restraints, imprisonment, grief, accusations, tears, being orphaned, captivity, haunting, farmers, gardeners, workers of property, managers, seafaring and waterside trades, tax collectors, the elders, violent action, guardianship, great reputation, notable ranks, lands, administration of that which belongs to others, fathership of the children of others, bachelors, widows, childlessness, violent deaths by water, strangulation, dysentery, falling on the face, injuries and lower respiratory infections, the skeletal system, the lymphatic system and the immune system, building materials like wood and stone, lead, dark colours and astringent tastes. It chronocrator over late old age up to death.
Thanks for leaving these quotes with their respective references by the way. I often find traditional astrological texts to be the most scrupulous. Haven't read the Tetrabiblos by Ptolemy thoroughly, so I might just do it after readign Vettius Valens' anthology.
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As for it ruling Aquarius on its own (like the title of this thread), I personally think it fits well with the sign
but don't reject the idea of Uranus ruling it as well.
It's a bit complicated
- even if it rules Aquarius
then it wouldn't directly have much of an effec
t on the personal lives of people, would it?
. Uranus is definitely a higher, spiritual energy to me, which has an affinity for the sign. I believe each sign is a spectrum of meaning which vibrates on many levels - from the ones we can easily pinpoint to those that are far out of our human understanding.
For the purposes of simplicity it's easier to think of Saturn as the main ruler of Aquarius.
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obviously, invisible outer planets are Modernist astrological
HOWEVER
clearly

because

this thread discussion is on our traditional board

for thousands of years
Traditionally, Saturn IS the SOLE DOMICILE ruler of AQUARIUS
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The world is far too unevolved
to be centered around, say a Neptunian goal.
That'd be way more focused on world-peace and unconditional love.

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by the way
did you read the rules of our traditional board?
Traditional Astrology board
is for discussions on Traditional Astrology only.
.....and
always excludes modern planets
(Neptune, Uranus and Pluto,)
as well as any asteroids
The focus is less on what would be considered modern psychological
chart interpretation and more on prediction.
Members who wish to explore a combination of traditional and modern ideas
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'....SATURN signifies fraud


and
affliction
and
difficulty
and
loss

also ancestors and what is left behind by the dead, mourning
and being orphaned, and old things.....'
Benjamin Dykes translation of Abu Mashars GREAT INTRODUCTION
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NATURE OF SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS


'...He does not easily get angry
and if he were angry
he would not be able to rule his own mind.
He wishes good to no one.


And he signifies old men
and weighty men
and burdens and fear, griefs
and sorrow and the complication of the mind.
And fraud and affliction and difficulty and loss;
also ancestors and what is left behind by the dead
mourning, and being orphaned, and old things.
Even grandfathers and fathers and brothers
and senior people and slaves
and mule drivers and men who are blamed
and robbers and those who dig up graves
and who rob the garments of the dead.



And fitters of leather and those who blame things.
He signifies magicians and masters of discord
and low-class men and eunuchs.
and a scarcity of speaking
and the knowledge of secrets
and one does not know what is in his mind
nor does a wise person make disclosures to him
about every obscure matter
And he signifies austerity and the ascetics of religions....'
[From Gr. Intr. VII.9.1390-1423]



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Thanks for leaving these quotes
with their respective references by the way.
I often find traditional astrological texts to be the most scrupulous.

Haven't read the Tetrabiblos by Ptolemy thoroughly, so
I might just do it after reading Vettius Valens' anthology.

Traditional astrology is based on ancient astrological texts
originally written in Ancient Greek, Latin, Arabic
and so
traditional astrologers often provide references to translations
of those ancient texts
so that interested beginners have the required information
to check for themselves
and very happy that you are utilising the references and links



BENJAMIN DYKES offers a number of translations
of previously untranslated ancient texts
at https://bendykes.com/

.Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html

Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf


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SATURN, Jupiter and Sun rejoice by day
Diurnal stars rejoice with diurnal images

Domiciles, exaltations, winds, bounds and configurations
control universal harmony


SATURN is exalted with Libra
and
depressed with Aries


Stars with their domiciles, exaltations and bounds
are always good
when benefic, they are better
when malefic, they are less bad.
Those who have many favorable placements
have distinguished nativities


Leo, Sagittarius, Aries - Sun, Jupiter, SATURN - NORTH WIND

Libra, AQUARIUS, Gemini - SATURN, Mercury, Jupiter - EAST WIND

Stars control the four divine winds.
They become good whenever the houserulers are ascending
or are post-ascending and favorably placed.
The first ruler is diurnal
the second is nocturnal
and the third is cooperating.
Changeover of the whole trigon occurs with the
completion of the rising time
and the recurrence years of the predominating houseruler
handing over to the other ruler.


In nativities, MALEFICS are better when they are post-ascending
for then they do not harm the stars and images that are ascending.
They are best when ascending and favorably placed
for then they bring good fortune.

And configurations are very strong within three degrees
SATURN and Mars are very bad with presence within three degrees
and
with tetragon and diameter rays
while Jupiter and Venus intervene with presence and all rays
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THE NATURE of SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
is

Masculine, diurnal
cold and dry
melancholic
earthly
malevolent
the Greater Infortune
Author of solitariness


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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,
in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.
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Every kind of honour
is divined from

the nature of attending stars



for SATURN brings about power

based on wealth and amassing of treasure

The images and the stars cause the beginning of matters
the houserulers cause the end of matters.


SATURN and Mars are always bad
and they are better ascending
only when exceptionally placed.

They are exceedingly bad for the respective image
when ascending without benefic testimony,

and

when they are rising and culminating with undistinguished nativities
they make destitutes, wicked, disabled, and those who are short-lived.
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And I updated this particular calculator and it works separately also as:

New daily calendar - Rising, Culminating and Settings times of the planets
(Planet conjunctions with ASC, MC and DESC angles for any geo location)

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(Still slowly closing to implement those parans )






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Sun = planet of creativity, light and life
Sun rules Leo, and governs the height of summer



Saturn takes rulership of the signs that govern midwinter
Capricorn = its nocturnal home
and
Aquarius = its diurnal home.
Saturn is a diurnal planet
and more openly expressive in Aquarius than Capricorn
Capricorn and Aquarius = depths of winter in Northern Hemisphere
when life is inclined towards hibernation
and activities are impeded by the cold, dark environment
the influence of Saturn dominates the natural world
trees are bare, the ground is hard
Sun's light is weak and short-lived.

Winter is a melancholy time
Saturn governs the melancholic temperament.
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Greetings,
The attitude of the planet can be judge
by reporting the planet to 3 basic levels:

1.terrestrial level.
For example, if the planet is conducting businesses of a bad place
(12th place, 6th place … etc),
the planet tend to harm the native.
If the planet is not conducting businesses of such a place,
it tends to help the native.

2.planetary level.
For example, if the planet is properly configurated with their Light,
- Kronos and Zeus with Helios,
- Aphrodite and Ares with Selene
the planet tends to help the native.

3.cosmic level.
For example, if a planet in sect, occupies its domicile,
and the exaltation lord
- if it has one
- and if its from opposite sect
is not in configuration with the zoidion
the planet tends to help the native.

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Greetings
Fitness of the planet is reffering to potentiality.
As I already explain on this forum,
the potentiality it's a matter of capability, ability, strength, power
and indicate that something might have the chance to happen
or not to happen
or shows how something could be done well. In the previous message I was talking about attitude, not fitness.
In simple terms, the attitude is reffering to the potential
of the planet to do good or bad for the native.
The attitude indicates how the planet will act,
regarding the needs of the native. The cadent places are not weak in the sense of strengthens,
they are weak in pursuing the priorities in someone’s life
like pivotal places do.
The dynamic of the cadent and succedent places
will always be reported to the pivots.
The places must always be checked in triads:
12-1-2; 3-4-5; 6-7-8; 9-10-11. For example, the priorities in someone’s life
could be: health, shelter, love, achievements.
The 9th place is related with knowledge.
The native achievements will be guide by knowledge.
There is nothing weak here.

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I’m not following the medieval doctrine
but the babylonian one.
Every planet has a life cycle.
The maximum strength and vigour of a havey planet
will be in fact before it reaches its peak, after the first station,
in the phase so called, achronychial rise. about the life of human being.
The human is born, and its passing to 4 ages:
childhood (AS),
adulthood (MC),
manhood (DS),
old age (IC).
Between adulthood (MC)
and manhood (DS) you will find yourself most powerful ( 9th place).
The same logic, babilonian applied to the path of the havey planets
. Before the planet reaches its manhood, its power will be the greatest.
Retrogradation of a havey planet, in the first helical cycle,
force the planet to look forward, to the future.
After is shifting its position relative to Helios,
the planet is force to look backward, to the past.
The farther is the planet form its place of departure
the later in life the planet will give its gifts.
Its logical that retrograde planets, to grant their gifts later in life.
There are many things to say on this chapter.
I found the delineations of medieval era to be in general, slightly in error.


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Indeed. All of these are related in some way. I've always found it interesting that Saturn tends to produce restrictions and pains due to the lack of solar and lunar qualities it lacks. It is the planet that opposes the rulership of the Moon and the Sun, after all. A lack of moisture and a lack of heat makes the natives lack connection with their own emotions and others' (Moon) while also a lack of will to act (Solar).
SATURN is cold

and

dry

and inimical to life

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In nativities
malefics are better when they are post-ascending
for then they do not harm the stars and images that are ascending.

They are best when ascending and favorably placed
for then they bring good fortune.

Inoperative stars cause reversals and weakness.
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It definitely is more devastating than Mars, which only sins in regards to having a lack of empathy.



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Mars is burning and drying, malefic, masculine and nocturnal. Pyroeis makes those born under him red and white in complexion, tall, robust, gray-eyed, with thick hair, somewhat curly, having excess of hot and dry when morning rising, and red, of middle height, with small eyes, not much hair on the body, straight yellow hair, having excess of dry when evening rising, and in general, natural, grim, resourceful, passionate, drinking, turbulent, relentless, challenging and confident. Mars controls force, wars, robbery, screams, violence, the loss of property, whoring, banishment, exile, alienation from parents, captivity, corruption of women, abortions, sexual intercourse, the loss of good things, lies, vain hopes, violent theft, banditry, plundering, disputes between friends, wrath, fighting, verbal abuse, hatred, lawsuits, shouting, violent murder, slashing and bloodshed, attacks of fever, boils, burns, imprisonment, torture, courage, false oaths, wandering, decoration of clothing, excelling at villainy, those who work with fire and iron, artisans, masons, leadership, military service, high-ranking officers, soldiers, supremacists, hunting, wine, falling from heights and four-footed animals, poor vision, apoplexy and falling on the back, the muscular system, the urinary system, the lower gastrointestinal tract, weapons, iron, reddish colours and acid tastes. It is chronocrator over late adulthood up to the 56th year.

Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf


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I'd say Saturn is more of a powerful influence than many other planets. It rules time, reality. The cold, hard truth - as it's often said.
'....Saturn brings about power based on wealth and amassing of treasure...'


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Man, I thought my Saturn return would be rough. Transit Saturn in my tenth, domicile, opposite natal Moon and square ascendant though?

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Still, it's amazing how astrology works. There's a certain beauty to it, if one looks hard enough.

Not with Saturn. Unless you like getting stepped on. Which is totally up to you....

Since it's in Aqua, is the old bas'tard going to stay there for the next five years or will it be done by next year?
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Man, I thought my Saturn return would be rough. Transit Saturn in my tenth, domicile, opposite natal Moon and square ascendant though?
Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Still, it's amazing how astrology works.

There's a certain beauty to it, if one looks hard enough.
Not with Saturn. Unless you like getting stepped on.
Which is totally up to you....
Since it's in Aqua, is the old bas'tard going to stay there for the next five years

or will it be done by next year?

SATURN transits each house for 2.5 YEARS
UNLESS RETROGRADE


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Robert Schmidt http://www.projecthindsight.com/

says Greek astrologers used metaphor
to convey the idea of the functions of the various planets
based on the Greeks being a seafaring nation
who two thousand years ago navigated the oceans
using sailing ships


hence


THE HELLENISTIC NAUTICAL METAPHOR



The ship itself
is
the native’s life
as represented by the Predominator


The first and second Trigon Lords
aka Triplicity Lords of the Predominator
are the Winds that carry the ship to its destiny.



The third Trigon aka Triplicity Lord
symbolizes the oars that move the ship.



Oikodespotes aka Domicile Master of the chart
is the ship owner
and
sets the agenda or destiny for the native
BUT
under the restrictions set by the bound ruler of the Predominator.



Kurios aka Lord of the nativity is the Captain of the ship
aka Executor
aka the one responsible
to bring the ship
to the destination set by Oikodespotes aka Domicile Master.


The Ascendant sign is the “...helm...” of the ship
and represents the physical life.


Domicile Lord of the Ascendant is the Helmsman
or the First Officer of the ship.

Lot of Fortune
represents everything that befalls the native
that is not of his or her own doing.


Domicile Lord of the Lot of Fortune
represents the man on the prow of the ship
aka Second Officer
who is on the look out for things/events
that are going to befall the native.

Clearly crucial that Lord of the Lot of Fortune
be able to communicate with the Domicile Master
and
the Ascendant/Helmsman
Lord of the nativity aka Kurios




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