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I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

Hello
I would like to know your opinions about my SR chart for 2028. I guess this chart predict my deathby accident?

I want to know if i am right, please help me out!

I ve attached my solar return chartt here




Thank you!




https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...b=#tabs_redraw


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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

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Hello
I would like to know your opinions about my SR chart for 2028.

I guess this chart predict my deathby accident?
I want to know if i am right, please help me out!
I ve attached my solar return chartt here

Thank you!


https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...b=#tabs_redraw
keep in mind that a solar return chart is based on a natal chart birthtime
therefore
IF there is any inaccuracy re: birthtime

then not only is any solar return created using it unreliable
but also
the natal chart itself is unreliable


meanwhile
our EDUCATION BOARD article at:

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...ad.php?t=17763

provides the following guidance for beginners:
STEPS ON HOW TO INTERPRET A SOLAR RETURN CHART,
by Starlink
A Solar Return chart is a chart made for only one year in the life
to see how transits will relate to your natal chart
and especially the personal planets
to give an important insight
in how they work out this year.

Once you understand the basics of your birth chart interpretation
you can use the same technique on your Solar Return chart.
A Solar Return chart should always be looked at
in connection with your natal chart
to see what natal planets are doing this year
and looking at their positions in the SR chart is one way doing that.

Note:

You can also view the Solar Return as a chart on its own
but
it wont tell you as much as when you compare with the natal chart.


It is not easy to interpret a Solar Return chart
because very often what we see there
reflects the hopes and wishes of the individual
and not necessarily what will happen to him/her.


That is also why we have to look at the birth potential.
If the Solar Return shows a fantastic career move
but
in the natal chart it is clearly seen that any career attempt
is going to be non existent
when the woman is a mother rather than a career type
or when there is no fire present
nor any ambition to be seen - Cardinal mode
then we have to be careful.
It could be a wish, not a reality.


We start by only looking at the Solar Return chart.
Begin by looking at the overview of the SR chart, just like you would do it for a natal chart.

natal planets positions in the Solar Return chart
can have more impact in this year


than Solar Return planets in the SR chart.

Always look at both.

YOUR NATAL AND SOLAR RETURN FROM THE LINK YOU POSTED

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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

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The prediction of individual death is not permitted here on this forum.
But you cannot use a solar return to predict death.

Indeed - ours is an AMATEUR online LEARNING astrological forum




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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

2028!!!

Forget about it. Live for today nobody knows when they are going to die.

Saturn fear prominent now in Pluto Capricorn - thoughts of death, doom & destruction.

Focus on life, the Sun vitality.


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Hello
I would like to know your opinions about my SR chart for 2028. I guess this chart predict my deathby accident?

I want to know if i am right, please help me out!

I ve attached my solar return chartt here




Thank you!




https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...b=#tabs_redraw
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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

I thought maybe someone can tell me the main events for that year.. because i want to be less concerned..
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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

I am a woman btw.. if this helps
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2028!!!
Forget about it.

Live for today nobody knows when they are going to die.

Saturn fear prominent now in Pluto Capricorn - thoughts of death, doom & destruction.

Focus on life, the Sun vitality.




Siriusly - focus on 2022


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If i was wrong.. i guess you d tell me this
I saw other posts and people told some ideas about the charts.. nevermind
Thank you anyway
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If i was wrong.. i guess you d tell me this
I saw other posts and people told some ideas about the charts.. nevermind
Thank you anyway

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The prediction of individual death is not permitted here on this forum.

But you cannot use a solar return to predict death.
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I thought maybe someone can tell me the main events for that year..

because i want to be less concerned.


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currently it is 2022 not 2028




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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

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Hello
I would like to know your opinions about my SR chart for 2028. I guess this chart predict my deathby accident?
I want to know if i am right, please help me out!
I ve attached my solar return chartt here
Thank you!


https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...b=#tabs_redraw


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Predicting death is not easy, and no one who does it uses a solar return. Solar Return is like a static Transit chart.

One of the more famous predictive astrologers of the 20th Century, who was the personal teacher of another famous 20th century astrologer that I apprenticed to, Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson, said this about predicting events: *
*
See it once, maybe
*
See it twice, possibly
*
See it three times, probably
*
See it four times, Certainty.
*
By this, she meant that you cannot successfully predict events with one predictive measure. *You need to see a similar picture in at leas 3 to even get a probably. *Predictive measures are: *solar arc directions, primary progressions, secondary progressions, minor progressions, tertiary progressions, lunar returns, solar returns, *planetary returns, and finally daily transits
*
Most astrologers just use daily transits without knowing how limiting they are, either because they don’t understand how to use the others, or because they actually believe that they are all you need to predict events. *
*
However, if all you need is emotional events, or thinking events, any single one will work, although I have found tertiary and minor progressions to be the best.

in any event, astrologers all have differing opinions
and frequently disagree


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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

Tell me this
Yes, it is 2022, not 2028, but SR is calculated by the birth place anyway. I dont live in my birth city for a few years and i will change the country soon. At least this is my plan, but, what is the difference and what is the problem if someone give me some help to calm me... i understand the fact you cannot make death predictions but i ve kindly ask if is there someone who will want to tell me something about my chart..


That SR is screaming only death or what?...
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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

Thank you, Samantha. I ve checked only solar and lunar returns for the moment.
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Tell me this
Yes, it is 2022, not 2028, but SR is calculated by the birth place anyway. I dont live in my birth city for a few years and i will change the country soon. At least this is my plan, but, what is the difference
and
what is the problem if someone give me some help to calm me... i


understand the fact you cannot make death predictions

but i ve kindly ask if is there someone

who will want to tell me something about my chart..
That SR is screaming only death or what?...

our forum is not a counselling helpline
and members respond with FREE astrological discussion
and so
are not under any obligation




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Re: I guess my solar return is predicting my death?

I didnt say anything like this i know what a forum is.
I will wait if someone wants to help me, if not, this is it.
I dont understand your problem but it doesnt matter anyway. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it
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I didnt say anything like this i know what a forum is.
I will wait if someone wants to help me, if not, this is it.
I dont understand your problem but it doesnt matter anyway. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it


Quote:
Originally Posted by Samantha Bean View Post

The prediction of individual death is not permitted here on this forum.

But you cannot use a solar return to predict death.


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Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post

keep in mind
that a solar return chart
is based on a natal chart birthtime
therefore
IF there is any inaccuracy re: birthtime

then not only is any solar return created using it unreliable
but also
the natal chart itself is unreliable


meanwhile
our EDUCATION BOARD article at:

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...ad.php?t=17763

provides the following guidance for beginners:
STEPS ON HOW TO INTERPRET A SOLAR RETURN CHART,
by Starlink
A Solar Return chart is a chart made for only one year in the life
to see how transits will relate to your natal chart
and especially the personal planets
to give an important insight
in how they work out this year.

Once you understand the basics of your birth chart interpretation
you can use the same technique on your Solar Return chart.
A Solar Return chart should always be looked at
in connection with your natal chart
to see what natal planets are doing this year
and looking at their positions in the SR chart is one way doing that.

Note:

You can also view the Solar Return as a chart on its own
but
it wont tell you as much as when you compare with the natal chart.


It is not easy to interpret a Solar Return chart
because very often what we see there
reflects the hopes and wishes of the individual
and not necessarily what will happen to him/her.


That is also why we have to look at the birth potential.
If the Solar Return shows a fantastic career move
but
in the natal chart it is clearly seen that any career attempt
is going to be non existent
when the woman is a mother rather than a career type
or when there is no fire present
nor any ambition to be seen - Cardinal mode
then we have to be careful.
It could be a wish, not a reality.


We start by only looking at the Solar Return chart.
Begin by looking at the overview of the SR chart, just like you would do it for a natal chart.

natal planets positions in the Solar Return chart
can have more impact in this year


than Solar Return planets in the SR chart.

Always look at both.

YOUR NATAL AND SOLAR RETURN FROM THE LINK YOU POSTED

ours is an astrological learning forum
members practise by delineating if so inclined
completely free

our EDUCATION BOARD article teaches how to interpret for yourself



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