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How reliable are profections in your experience?

Just wondering. It seems some people find them useful some donít.

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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

Profections work quite well, but are not consistent as primary directions.

The Ascendant profected yearly (advance the Ascendant sign yearly by 30 degrees) points to the house important for the year. Planets placed in the profected sign are activated and the ruler of the house comes into play as well. A cadent house year (like 12th and 6th) will be when things will be subdued and not prominent. An angular house year like the the 10th house and 1st house makes events in the year very prominent and important for the native. Try to interleave the yearly profections with firdaria to get better prediction.

Each planet (including Ascendant and Midheaven) could be profected yearly and their conjunctions (or aspect) with planets yield recognizable events, but it might be too much to digest. Sticking with yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions (and aspects) is best and more reliable. "Each profected degree at the annual rate corresponds to 12.17 days"

There is monthly profection as well; but I haven't spent time with them.

Matching events by yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions can help to rectify the birth chart. Another way profection is used in rectification by matching similar events 12 years apart!
Dr.H uses them to match similar events (based on the planet under consideration) timed by profected ascendant's aspect (preferably conjunction) to the planet around same time of the year but separated by 12 years and you can then narrow down the ascendant range easily. See VOC-Henry James (page 10) for example.
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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

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Profections work quite well, but

are not consistent as primary directions.

The Ascendant profected yearly (advance the Ascendant sign yearly by 30 degrees) points to the house important for the year. Planets placed in the profected sign are activated and the ruler of the house comes into play as well. A cadent house year (like 12th and 6th) will be when things will be subdued and not prominent. An angular house year like the the 10th house and 1st house makes events in the year very prominent and important for the native.


Try to interleave the yearly profections with firdaria to get better prediction.

Each planet (including Ascendant and Midheaven) could be profected yearly and their conjunctions (or aspect) with planets yield recognizable events, but it might be too much to digest. Sticking with yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions (and aspects) is best and more reliable. "Each profected degree at the annual rate corresponds to 12.17 days"

There is monthly profection as well; but I haven't spent time with them.

Matching events by yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions can help to rectify the birth chart. Another way profection is used in rectification by matching similar events 12 years apart!
Dr.H uses them to match similar events (based on the planet under consideration) timed by profected ascendant's aspect (preferably conjunction) to the planet around same time of the year but separated by 12 years and you can then narrow down the ascendant range easily. See VOC-Henry James (page 10) for example.


I have RUMEN KOLEV's software

http://www.babylonianastrology.com/i...d=27&Itemid=43

calculates daily profections

as well as
weekly profections

https://alabe.com/placidus.html


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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

For examples of yearly profected ASC conjunct planets in natal chart, see examples from Leonardo da Vinci's birth chart:

https://satyastrology.com/leonardo-d...rectification/

It is under the section Stage 2.

The placement of the concerned planet in sign and house is helpful to understand how the event will play out.
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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

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Astrologers Chris Brennan and Leisa Schaim lead a discussion
about annual profections
with a local astrology group

and take example charts from the audience
to demonstrate how the timing technique works in practice

audience members look through their own chronology
and find good examples
that demonstrate the technique in their own lives.
seven different audience members share their birth charts
and talk about specific years in their life
explaining how the techniques correlate with their lived experience.
This style of discussion can be important
because sometimes it is only by talking to a person directly
about their life and asking them questions
that you can get a full sense of exactly how
the techniques of astrology work out in practice.
This is episode 222 of The Astrology Podcast
and is a recording of a meeting of the Denver Astrology Group
that took place at the Mercury Cafe in downtown Denver, Colorado
on Saturday, September 14, 2019, starting just after 3:00 PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTDYid1kI28


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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

Thanks Jupiterasc, that's a really a good link for learning profections through discussion and personal charts.

There is another good podcast by Chris Brennan where he teaches annual profections.
https://theastrologypodcast.com/2018...ord-technique/

Annual profections is a very important traditional predictive technique, much simpler than solar returns.
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Re: How reliable are profections in your experience?

I have found the manilius method of profection to be the most often reliable of the traditional profection techniques.
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Profections work quite well, but are not consistent as primary directions.

The Ascendant profected yearly (advance the Ascendant sign yearly by 30 degrees) points to the house important for the year. Planets placed in the profected sign are activated and the ruler of the house comes into play as well. A cadent house year (like 12th and 6th) will be when things will be subdued and not prominent. An angular house year like the the 10th house and 1st house makes events in the year very prominent and important for the native. Try to interleave the yearly profections with firdaria to get better prediction.

Each planet (including Ascendant and Midheaven) could be profected yearly and their conjunctions (or aspect) with planets yield recognizable events, but it might be too much to digest. Sticking with yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions (and aspects) is best and more reliable. "Each profected degree at the annual rate corresponds to 12.17 days"

There is monthly profection as well; but I haven't spent time with them.

Matching events by yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions can help to rectify the birth chart. Another way profection is used in rectification by matching similar events 12 years apart!
Dr.H uses them to match similar events (based on the planet under consideration) timed by profected ascendant's aspect (preferably conjunction) to the planet around same time of the year but separated by 12 years and you can then narrow down the ascendant range easily. See VOC-Henry James (page 10) for example.
so,we advance each degree every 12 days from 0 degrees of the ASC<'<'?
same for profected planets?
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Profections work quite well, but are not consistent as primary directions.

The Ascendant profected yearly (advance the Ascendant sign yearly by 30 degrees) points to the house important for the year. Planets placed in the profected sign are activated and the ruler of the house comes into play as well. A cadent house year (like 12th and 6th) will be when things will be subdued and not prominent. An angular house year like the the 10th house and 1st house makes events in the year very prominent and important for the native. Try to interleave the yearly profections with firdaria to get better prediction.

Each planet (including Ascendant and Midheaven) could be profected yearly and their conjunctions (or aspect) with planets yield recognizable events, but it might be too much to digest. Sticking with yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions (and aspects) is best and more reliable. "Each profected degree at the annual rate corresponds to 12.17 days"

There is monthly profection as well; but I haven't spent time with them.

Matching events by yearly profected Ascendant conjunctions can help to rectify the birth chart. Another way profection is used in rectification by matching similar events 12 years apart!
Dr.H uses them to match similar events (based on the planet under consideration) timed by profected ascendant's aspect (preferably conjunction) to the planet around same time of the year but separated by 12 years and you can then narrow down the ascendant range easily. See VOC-Henry James (page 10) for example.
quite detailed thanks
I was in a 12th prof last year but it was eventful.I had plenty of work and money,travelled,now that im in an ASC prof,nothing,no job,no money,just some private tutition
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