Help with Composite

as1416

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Hi there,

I am new to this forum so nice to meet y'all. I would like some help interpreting this composite chart. We met 16 years ago but recently bumped into each other after 10+ years and we were immediately attracted to each other. We were talking non-stop for 2 months (we live in different countries but we are from the same country) and when I flew to see here we had an argument after 4 days and broke up. Despite that, I keep thinking about her all the time and would like to talk to her again but would appreciate some help with the composite and transits. It is very likely that I will see her in March. Thanks!
 

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ElenaJ

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Hi, thank you for posting.
These charts are so difficult to decipher, and they don't have the planet degrees.
Would it be possibile for you to post the chart again (no need to do two) in another more legible format with the aspect table included?
From astro.com?
Thanks
 

as1416

Member
Hi, thank you for posting.
These charts are so difficult to decipher, and they don't have the planet degrees.
Would it be possibile for you to post the chart again (no need to do two) in another more legible format with the aspect table included?
From astro.com?
Thanks

Sure, here you go!
 

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ElenaJ

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Thank you, much better.
The basic planets of a love relationship are sun (your ego, identity) and moon (emotions).
In the composite chart the sun is square Neptune, which is very dreamy, but subject to illusions. So long as the veil remains intact, this is a sweet contact, but when you begin to see through to the reality, you are open to disappointments. You each try to fulfil the other's fantasies, and you don't completely commit to the relationship. You tend to assume the other knows what you are thinking or saying.
The moon has an exact sextile to Saturn, which is stabilising, it's a link that gives you emotional reliability, consistency, and durability over time. In fact, you say it's taken 16 years to get where you are now! Moon is in the 12th so as a couple you have difficulty expressing your emotions.
Note, these two important planets really have only these aspects, so you can't count on other types of energy linking you together.
The Venus/mars conjunction may be what is attracting you at the moment. Venus is exactly sextile pluto, very sexy, and there is a trine to Neptune, again lending magic and romance, and emotional support between the two of you.
Uranus sextile mercury is very stimulating, and will help you both view the world in a new way, this is a very enriching contact.
Jupiter on the ascendent is the face you present to the world, how the rest of us see you as a couple, which is very happy, free spirited and benevolent. This is actually a strong marriage aspect, especially since it is square to the moon's nodes.
The asteroids amor and union are on the south node, indicating there is something karmic in your relationship, perhaps a love in a past life, and Lilith on the north node is why you can't get her out of your mind, Lilith challenges you both in the relationship, it also becomes a source of growth.
Another striking point is that all the planets are above the horizon, in the southern hemisphere. This makes the relationship very sociable, outgoing and extroverted, perhaps with a professional emphasis.
Transiting pluto and Saturn are stimulating the composite moon, in the 12th house the effect of this contact won't be obviously apparent, it works under the surface, but will be strong.
Transiting Jupiter is on Uranus, sextile to mercury making you very optimistic as a couple.
The transiting Uranus and mars that are leaving Aries and entering taurus will contact the north node, stimulating the relationship.
Enjoy it.
 

as1416

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Thank you, much better.
The basic planets of a love relationship are sun (your ego, identity) and moon (emotions).
In the composite chart the sun is square Neptune, which is very dreamy, but subject to illusions. So long as the veil remains intact, this is a sweet contact, but when you begin to see through to the reality, you are open to disappointments. You each try to fulfil the other's fantasies, and you don't completely commit to the relationship. You tend to assume the other knows what you are thinking or saying.
The moon has an exact sextile to Saturn, which is stabilising, it's a link that gives you emotional reliability, consistency, and durability over time. In fact, you say it's taken 16 years to get where you are now! Moon is in the 12th so as a couple you have difficulty expressing your emotions.
Note, these two important planets really have only these aspects, so you can't count on other types of energy linking you together.
The Venus/mars conjunction may be what is attracting you at the moment. Venus is exactly sextile pluto, very sexy, and there is a trine to Neptune, again lending magic and romance, and emotional support between the two of you.
Uranus sextile mercury is very stimulating, and will help you both view the world in a new way, this is a very enriching contact.
Jupiter on the ascendent is the face you present to the world, how the rest of us see you as a couple, which is very happy, free spirited and benevolent. This is actually a strong marriage aspect, especially since it is square to the moon's nodes.
The asteroids amor and union are on the south node, indicating there is something karmic in your relationship, perhaps a love in a past life, and Lilith on the north node is why you can't get her out of your mind, Lilith challenges you both in the relationship, it also becomes a source of growth.
Another striking point is that all the planets are above the horizon, in the southern hemisphere. This makes the relationship very sociable, outgoing and extroverted, perhaps with a professional emphasis.
Transiting pluto and Saturn are stimulating the composite moon, in the 12th house the effect of this contact won't be obviously apparent, it works under the surface, but will be strong.
Transiting Jupiter is on Uranus, sextile to mercury making you very optimistic as a couple.
The transiting Uranus and mars that are leaving Aries and entering taurus will contact the north node, stimulating the relationship.
Enjoy it.

Ah, amazing read. Any strong significance about north node/IC conjunction? Read somewhere that it is a strong marriage indicator and/or very gluey? Also, I believe that Saturn is conjunct the Sun/Moon midpoint - any significance?

Thanks!
 

ElenaJ

Well-known member
North node on the IC is a domestic connection, so yes marriage.
The composite chart is a chart of the midpoints between the charts of the two persons, and represents the relationship. So, taking a midpoint of the midpoint is a tenuous contact. At any rate, conjunct Saturn would delay the union (which is already your case), bringing old age into account, as well as making it a serious and durable relationship.
More relevant I think would be a contact between the sun/moon midpoint and any planets (especially sun or moon) in either of your natal charts.
 

as1416

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North node on the IC is a domestic connection, so yes marriage.
The composite chart is a chart of the midpoints between the charts of the two persons, and represents the relationship. So, taking a midpoint of the midpoint is a tenuous contact. At any rate, conjunct Saturn would delay the union (which is already your case), bringing old age into account, as well as making it a serious and durable relationship.
More relevant I think would be a contact between the sun/moon midpoint and any planets (especially sun or moon) in either of your natal charts.

Understood. Any thoughts on composite moon opposite composite vertex? Also, knowing that one synastry aspect doesn't mean the whole thing, any thoughts on POF conjunct vertex? read somewhere it's powerful?
 

ElenaJ

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These are not make-or-break contacts in a relationship.
Concentrate on the emotions (moon), identity (sun), affection (Venus), energy and goals (mars), ideas (mercury).
You want to find a relationship where you feel good together, but also have similar views on life, shared values, and you want to achieve the same things in life. You want to walk along the same path.
Otherwise, the relationship will just fall apart as soon as the initial attraction becomes worn and routine, which it will.
A composite part of fortune on a composite vertex is really very very relative, if anything. (At the risk of receiving lots of flak on this comment).
It's important to concentrate on the basics of a positive inter-exchange of energies, to bind two souls together on a lifetime journey.
 

as1416

Member
These are not make-or-break contacts in a relationship.
Concentrate on the emotions (moon), identity (sun), affection (Venus), energy and goals (mars), ideas (mercury).
You want to find a relationship where you feel good together, but also have similar views on life, shared values, and you want to achieve the same things in life. You want to walk along the same path.
Otherwise, the relationship will just fall apart as soon as the initial attraction becomes worn and routine, which it will.
A composite part of fortune on a composite vertex is really very very relative, if anything. (At the risk of receiving lots of flak on this comment).
It's important to concentrate on the basics of a positive inter-exchange of energies, to bind two souls together on a lifetime journey.

Great! I was referring to POF conjunct vertex in synastry as well as moon conjunct moon and moon conjunct AC. I will post chart soon but any views on those would be great! thanks!
 

ElenaJ

Well-known member
So you two have natals charts separated by about three or so months. Which means you have the outer planets more or less lined up together. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, pluto. And, very important, your moons are almost conjunct.
This is a two faceted situation. On the one hand, you are very much similar, and can read each other easily. On the other, when there are transits you are both hit by them, and when they are easy you are on the moon (so to speak) but when they are hard aspects you suffer together, and during these down spirals you need to support each other.
If we visually eliminate all those asteroids, we can see that all your planets are concentrated between the mars/jupiter trine, so you are very concentrated in your energies, don't easily get sidetracked or go off the tracks.
Your scorpio sun has a conjunction with Saturn, which means also that her Saturn conjuncts your sun. You are used to this type of energy because it is part of you, so it may or may not weigh on you too much, and could work as a stabilising factor. Significantly, her ascendent ruler is Saturn, so this is actually an important link between you that ties the bond. Her Leo sun ruler is the sun, so this sun/saturn conjunction is significant in your case.
She also has her planets very concentrated, in her case between the sun/mars conjunction opposed Jupiter. However, her Venus forms a handle to this, giving her an outlet for her energies. How does this connect up with you? It doesn't really. So how does she address her expression of love towards you?
Her sun conjuncts mars, so she will look for a man with mars qualities, and you are a scorpio, which is perfect. Her ascendent is ruled by Saturn, and you have Saturn on your sun, again her exact image of the perfect male partner for her.
Her descendent is ruled by moon, and your moon not only conjuncts her moon but is on her ascendent. You would seem to be the perfect partner for her.
Your piscean ascendent looks for a mercurial woman, and her mercury is close to but not actually at your descendent, however, it exactly squares your sun, which is her Leo sun ruler, so another important bind.
You both have Ceres on the descendent, so you are both very caring and loving in relationships. Your Juno on both south moon nodes would indicate this is a karmic relationship, you were probably married in the past. However, your mars on her Juno promises lots of fights in a marriage! Her sun/mars conjunction, which in itself is very spirited, also squares her pluto, so she is a very forceful personality.
So is scorpio. Your libra mars will tend to give in for the sake of peace.
Mercury is conjunct uranus, but this can go either way, mercury is "mercurial".
So where is the neptunian quality of the composite coming from? You both have Neptune at the first degree of Capricorn, but it doesn't seem to link up with any planets in the charts. Maybe someone else can shed light on this.
The infamous transiting saturn and pluto will soon conjunct your mutual moons, so there will be a difficult period ahead for you when your emotions will be in an upheaval. If you are planning a wedding, you might want to wait until after that conjunction until you tie the knot.
 
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