Well, it's been awhile since I posted in the forum and a long while since I visited this thread.
I have health issues and am just trying to take life easy right now.
Phoenix Venus has been assisting me in writing a revision for my book but my publisher is having legal problems so I may have to "shop around" the revised edition.
It will be awesome in comparison to the original edition... thanks so much to Phoenix Venus' efforts at editing the original script for grammatical and spelling errors and doing the writing for two new chapters.
She will share the co-authorship on the revised edition.
Phoenix Venus is truly an angel, a Godsend, whom I have become quite enamored with but have yet to meet in person after, now, more than four years of acquaintance. We both hope to rectify that situation soon.
It's because of her acute understanding of the Sabians and her persistence of effort to get me to take a look beyond what I thought were limitations that is the cause for this present post.
May God twice bless you for you for your patience with me and your dedication to the "science" of astrology.
Phoenix V made great effort for me to get off my lazy behind and recognize that the Full Moon prenatal and post natal should also be taken into account with these other Hylesque Parts.
Sa My "traditional" Part of Hyleg involves the Full Moon, as it was closet to the time before my birth. I figured that I should at least consult the post natal Full MOon in addition. The chart for Yeshu'a involves his prenatal New Moon... he was born within 24 hours time prior to the Full Moon. So I figured that I should at least consider his prenatal Full Moon as well.
What an astounding discovery that has resulted in. (Phoenix Venus, you are truly "something else"...angel that you are.)
Yeshu'a's prenatal Full Moon Chart I here present.
Thus we find that the prenatal Full Moon was at 14° Virgo 07' 20" and when used in the formula for the Part of Hyleg what results is 16° Libra 01' 21" , the 17th degree of Libra, which quite interestingly is also the location of my natal Part of Love and Appreciation.
Please note the location of the Desc. in the chart above. It is in the 8th degree of Virgo. By another interesting coincidence(?) that just so happens to be the degree of Yeshu'a's natal Part of Omens and Signs (Asc. + Uranus - Mercury) which is at 07° Virgo 50' 02"
The Sabian Symbol for which is (ibid.)
"VIRGO 8°: A FIVE-YEAR-OLD CHILD TAKES A FIRST DANCING LESSON.
KEYNOTE: Learning to use one's capacity for emotional self-expression according to cultural standards.
The process of emotional experiencing under controlled situations is shown now to demand self-induced, active movement; yet the movements are still conditioned, if not totally determined, by cultural and thus collective patterns. The individual can express his own individual character only according to traditional modes. He is still entirely responsible to his teacher or guru. Yet new perspectives are now open to him.
At this third stage of the five-fold thirty-second sequence of symbols we witness at work the transitional phase which may lead to mastery. The child-consciousness is still dominated by some form of authority; but if the child is 'five years old', the implication is that he is entering ' the level of conscious manhood, represented by the number 5, the five-pointed star which outlines at least the POTENTIALITY OF INITIATION."
As to what the symbolism implies as to the being who was/is Yeshu'a has not made itself clear to me as of yet...but remember that, according to Dane Rudhyar, "all true paths of discipleship begin in Virgo.
Now, check out my postnatal Full Moon chart, here below:
Please note that the Desc. the North Node and the Part of Fortune are all in the 5th degree of Aquarius.
The 5th degree of Aquarius also by the "oddest coincidence"(?) just so happens to be the same Sign and degree of my natal Part of Omens & Signs.
Which is located at 04° Aquarius 32' 16"
The Full Moon when used in the Part of Hyleg formula produces a Part at
04° Aquarius 21' 06"
I am beyond belief... and I thought that I had "seen it all".
Phoenix Venus... You are something else, girl... Will you marry me?