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humans aren't "lame"

we've been brainwashed to be "lame-ified"

when we get back to basics - hunting and gathering and nurturing and growing our own food source - taking care of our own, and not exploiting others, it will be the ultimate Age of Aquarius.
Well that won't ever happen

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it's happening now, little apple of hope.

the irony and the ecstacy of Aquarius -

represented in this (i could post it elsewhere, but it's too fitting here) -

aquarius is never afraid to go backwards ( hence the uranus rulership of modern times)

aquarius learns from it's history provided by saturn. no one can rightfully claim that the future is void of returning to the past.


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it's happening now, little apple of hope.

the irony and the ecstacy of Aquarius -

represented in this (i could post it elsewhere, but it's too fitting here) -

aquarius is never afraid to go backwards ( hence the uranus rulership of modern times)

aquarius learns from it's history provided by saturn. no one can rightfully claim that the future is void of returning to the past.


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I think humans are getting worse though. People aren't hunting and gathering. Where's your evidence for that? People are becoming more and more "civilized" everyday, especially with the growing population.
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I think humans are getting worse though. People aren't hunting and gathering. Where's your evidence for that? People are becoming more and more "civilized" everyday, especially with the growing population.
YOU'RE the evidence.
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YOU'RE the evidence.
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I'm not hunting or gathering for sh*t.
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I'm not hunting or gathering for sh*t.
You're not old enough to understand.
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You're not old enough to understand.
No, you can't say that to me. From that logic, I could say you're TOO old to understand. Because older people have already been set into their mold and character and will remain the same until they die.
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No, you can't say that to me. From that logic, I could say you're TOO old to understand. Because older people have already been set into their mold and character and will remain the same until they die.
Knew you'd like that one! Actually, you got it exactly right--I can see the MOLDS are changing, because I've been around long enough. I Roy Rogers' horsed you! (Wait....have you heard of Roy Rogers? Some of the way-back-when stuff has dropped away.)Happy trails!

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I'm not sure the ages are calculated right, because Age of Aquarius has lots of Capricorn traits (esp. sciences and technology), which are shared by Gemini. The epoch cycles started 100,000 years ago with the rise of modern humans, starting with the epoch of Aries (first sign, but as of 2,000 years ago)/Libra, then came Pisces/Virgo(maternal sign or motherly), Aquarius/Leo (50,000 BC), Capricorn/Cancer and now Sagittarius/Gemini (monotheism and technology). 25,000 year epoch cycles have 12 ages each, like our current age Aquarius/Leo started (or should arrive) around 2000-2100 AD. Either the birth of Jesus Christ or the first moon landing in 1969 AD marked the entry or transition to the new epoch. Aquarius is about the now, modernity, innovation, progress and change. The last epoch wasn't as scientific despite the presence of Capricorn.
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Good description of the Sidereal (Spiritual-realm) Ages! But these Tropical Ages are down-to-Earth, materialistic,and mundane. The Age-indicators move both ways, at somewhat different rates--Retrograde-motion Siderealy, Direct-motion Tropically. What's truly remarkable and significant is that BOTH are entering Aquarius in their respective coordinates in the same time-frame.
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When I think of the Age of Aquarius, I think of Charles Manson and his gang of criminals. I think The Manson family represented the darker side of That era, the Age of Aquarius, with their extremity in freedom, in philosophy. unrestrained freedom and liberty become dangerous. Aquarius is similar to Sagittarius in the way they are both philosophical. They deal with believe system and social structure. Both signs can act as independent and misfits. and their darker side involves extremity and rebelliousness. All in all, the Mansons represented the dark side of Aquarius in their rebelliousness, freedom and eccentricity.
The weird violence of the late 1960's stemmed from blowback from the Vietnam War combined with the C.I.A.'s destructive involvement with L.S.D.. They were in no way a product of the Aquarian Age, and portraying Manson as such shows gross ignorance concerning the next Age, which hasn't even shown its real effects yet. The World Wars and the continuing violence known as "terrorism" are the culmination of thousands of years of spiritual darkness (which will END during the Aquarian Age), coupled with the technology made possible by one, last, extreme obsession with the Material-realm.
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I think humans are getting worse though. People aren't hunting and gathering. Where's your evidence for that? People are becoming more and more "civilized" everyday, especially with the growing population.

You know the term "going off the grid", right? Well, bit by bit, more folks are going off the grid - choosing to rebel or separate from grid-like mandates.

People are unplugging, growing food, hunting food, bartering, working for co-op or sweat equity in the building trades, developing urban farming communties, entrepreneurial efforts around all of these things - not so much reinventing the wheel as much as reinvigorating it.

It will serve your curious soulful generation to get out into the world - out of the box of thinking that if your computer or iPod or cell phone were to disappear, you would die, etc.

The longer you live, and the more you see and experience these back to the future things in life - it will become more clear.

Aquarius is the one sign who is not afraid to upturn the future to revisit the past. I like to think of it as good, in most instances.
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I couldn't find anything specifically about the Sidereal attitude toward the retrograde development of the Ages, but it appears Sideralism is actually of the opinion that planetary retrograde movement is usually a good thing. So, the question remains: Why the Age of the normally compassionate and altruistic Sign Pisces resulted in such callous and cruel World cultures. Maybe no less so than past Ages, but I would have expected better (having a Piscean nature myself). Also, a Piscean Age should, in theory, have been less about male domination. Something's missing, or something's wrong! [IMO]
Slightly off topic, but I noticed something recently and I wanted to mention it. I remembered this thread, and I remember your theory about the Ages and I figured this place would be the best place to discuss it

They say Christianity was the symbol of the Piscean Age, a sign traditionally ruled by Jupiter. Jesus appears to have had a very Piscean nature, but The Church itself does not seem to reflect Jesus's actual teachings. Christianity was originally symbolized by the fish (Pisces) and scholars say he was actually born around March. But we celebrate his birthday in December, and they replaced the fish with a cross, why is that?

I was passing by a church the other day and for the first time, I noticed the Christian cross looks suspiciously like the glyph of Saturn. I don't think this is a coincidince. Why is Jesus symbolized by the thing he died on? The thing they killed him with? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Christmas is celebrated on December 25th because they wanted it to correspond with various Pagan holidays, such as Yule and the Roman festival, Saturnalia. I just find it interesting because Christmas is more about Santa than it is Jesus Christ. It's more of a commercialist holiday, nowadays. Jesus does not seem to have had a Capricornian (???) nature, but Christmas certainly does, and in a different way, so does religion.

I have a more in depth theory about this if anyone's interested.

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Slightly off topic, but I noticed something recently and I wanted to mention it. I remembered this thread, and I remember your theory about the Ages and I figured this place would be the best place to discuss it

They say Christianity was the symbol of the Piscean Age, a sign traditionally ruled by Jupiter. Jesus appears to have had a very Piscean nature, but The Church itself does not seem to reflect Jesus's actual teachings. Christianity was originally symbolized by the fish (Pisces) and scholars say he was actually born around March. But we celebrate his birthday in December, and they replaced the fish with a cross, why is that?

I was passing by a church the other day and for the first time, I noticed the Christian cross looks suspiciously like the glyph of Saturn. I don't think this is a coincidince. Why is Jesus symbolized by the thing he died on? The thing they killed him with? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Christmas is celebrated on December 25th because they wanted it to correspond with various Pagan holidays, such as Yule and the Roman festival, Saturnalia. I just find it interesting because Christmas is more about Santa than it is Jesus Christ. It's more of a commercialist holiday, nowadays. Jesus does not seem to have had a Capricornian (???) nature, but Christmas certainly does, and in a different way, so does religion.

I have a more in depth theory about this if anyone's interested.
I'm definitely interested!
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I'm definitely interested!
If I go in depth, I'll probably be thought of as a "crazy conspiracy theorist" and possibly offend people. But first of all, I theorized for a long time that Satan was not much more than a personification of the planet Saturn (Kronos). I'm also beginning to think Jesus is actually a personification of the planet Jupiter (Zeus).

In the Bible, Jesus talks a lot about the letter of the law (Saturn) vs. the spirit of the law (Jupiter). I read somewhere that looking at the glyphs of both planets, you can see Saturn is pointed down the material world and Jupiter is pointed upwards toward the spiritual world. Additionally, Saturn = rules, authority, limitation, bad luck, Jupiter = morals, knowledge, expansion, good luck. The laws of civilization (represented by Saturn) and your own understanding of what's right and what's wrong (represented by Jupiter) are often in contradiction - often people are rewarded for doing the wrong thing and punished for doing the right thing, it's insane! When I think Saturn, I think school smarts, studying to get good grades, but not necessarily understanding anything and when I think Jupiter, I think learning from experience, thinking for yourself. I think a lot "Christians" follow the letter of the law too closely, they take the Bible too literally without understanding anything about the culture The Bible was written in (which is much different than the culture of today) etc.

I don't know. I feel like this comes off as "crazy" but over the past couple of weeks, I've been seeing Saturn symbolism everywhere, in religion and in corporate logos. I walked by Capital One bank the other day, and I noticed that their logo looks very similar to the rings of Saturn... honestly, guess it makes sense since it's banking, which I believe is ruled by Saturn.

I don't know. I think I'm gonna stop there for NOW because someone's gonna probably tell me off for being crazy and thinking too deep about things I shouldn't.
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............................... I think a lot "Christians" follow the letter of the law too closely, they take the Bible too literally without understanding anything about the culture The Bible was written in (which is much different than the culture of today) etc.
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I posted the following note 4 nights ago and it was mysteriously deleted......
so I repost as it pertains your comment .

you use the term Jesus Christ but in the synoptic gospels he is referred to as Jesus the Christ each time. the difference is that the former usage implies Jesus is god, the latter usage means Jesus is a man.

before Constantine called the counsel at Nicaea in 325 ad,60% of the bishoprics in Christendom were Arian Christians , and outside of Rome,the other bishoprics were unoccupied. Arian Christians did not believe Jesus was god but that he was a man with a small bit of god in him .

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On Youtube, Lada Duncheva stated anyone born in the first trimester of the Age of Aquarius for the next 7 centuries will have a strong Neptune in their charts, then I realize the decan is Libra ruled by Venus and the age under Aquarius is ruled by Uranus anyway.
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I'm not sure whether or not this thread has been done before, but I haven't seen one lately. I would like to discuss the real qualities of Aquarius and how they would most likely manifest in the world as built. I made a post stating my position in a separate thread. If I am enough of an ***, which I am, I'll quote myself here.



I didn't even get to the fact that Aquarius is an air sign. I've also read some who have said that a bad attitude for an Aquarian might be: "everyone should be free to be just like me." That doesn't sound like the rosy salvation plan described in most discussions on the subject. Personally, I think that Aquarius will bring us more of the same tyranny, plunder, and abuse. Actually, I think that it will intensify those terrible things in order to purge them, like the human body killing a disease with fever and swelling. My thinking, as stated in numerous other places, is that the big transition will be on the Capricorn/Aquarius cusp. The Aquarius/Pisces cusp marks the beginning of the purification by fire. How do you find goodness? In suffering.
the age of pisces was about the spread of common beliefs, morals, and attitudes. But in the past 2000 years, we've had wars, slavery, genocides, etc.

Humans can be shitty, this i don't think can or will change.
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Well from what I understand. The age of Aquarius is supposed to explain all the technological advances..computers and such. Uranus is also supposed to be "the exposer"..when truths are revealed. I would say that a whole lot of lies from the past are now being revealed. Also ..under the influence of Uranus..tables turn. In other words.. whatever is on top goes to the bottom and visa versa. So that could mean that the people who are the underdogs of our world (blacks, people of color, women, the poor) will rise to the top under this influence and the people who are on top (europeans, whites, men , the wealthy) will take 2nd place in this age. Is it possible that the elite is aware of this and explains thier desperate and quickening attempt to push thier agenda? Maybe they know thier time is up? Your application of Aquarius's character to predict what that might mean in the Aquarian age was very interesting.
Um. "Blacks" being on the bottom was a localized issue in the United States. Women were actually treated like royalty; they didn't have to labor, they didn't have to go to war, they could be at home by themselves or with friends if they wanted to. There were certain times where the gender roles limited both men & women from doing varying things—equally oppressive and offensive to both.

The fact that women are now trying to handle capital is simply the merging of the two gender roles, so naturally the blasé political & career junk of men is contrasted with a predominance of men.

You really need to know what you're talking about before pushing the racism against whites & feminist man-hating agendas. For one, America is not the only country in the world, and it's very young at that as well as something that in its inception was actually extremely chaotic all around.

Whites have been imprisoned by people of color in history. By your theory, if somewhere in the world there are echoes of an oppressed people wherever you are presently living, it means it is going to be a global issue as well as a universal lesson dominating the entire globe for the next two thousand years just to make a statement?

That doesn't even make any sense.

Also, once the poor become wealthy, who's poor now? It is a constantly revolving cast of people. I will say there are some major families who need to be removed from their power, but I think more importantly I advocate people to question the systems and not just trade places.

Also, question those who "are the biggest victims of all time ever poor little us help us and beat up our oppressor". You don't have to be abusive about it, but quite frankly women have always been treated superiorly. They were treated first, doors held for them, ushered in, people tended to their needs, fought to the death for them, protected them, worked hard to earn money for them; they are allowed to dress however they want. Women are collectively and have been for a very long time allowed to dress unisex; they wear pants, dresses, any hair style & color they want, primp themselves up, argue whatever they want, play the victim, express a full range of emotion, go to war, still be a stay at home mom, girth birth, raise children, not raise children if they don't want to, wear make-up, get any job they want. It's a lot more acceptable for women to be LGBT.

They fact that men are born physically stronger because they have testosterone is not a fault.

The fact that during the times of gender roles (which were upheld by both men and women equally) which exist even still today supported by both parties displayed men in politics was just a part of the fact that men were considered women's little creative slave monkeys. When certain women said they wanted to do what men were doing, it wasn't women who were oppressed; both men & women were and are held captive by the division in the realm of "what function a man serves and what function a woman serves", and "what is feminine & what is masculine".

Of course there are a lot of older men in politics; there are many reasons for this, and the least of which was some collective one-sided open enslavement of women.

No, men & women created the paradigm of genders collectively. At some point however some women said they wanted to do what dudes were doing; in fact, women have achieved more in blurring the gender roles for their sex than men have for their own—and that is why you keep hearing the overwhelming notion of all these "female oppressions"—because feminism is winning, not losing, and shoving their agendas in your face (ie. constantly pointing out the remains of older men in politics during the days of the gender gaps, exaggerating, lying, and blowing up the ideas of rape by aggression while dismissing rape by fraud).

It is the power of femininity to overcome what they lack in physical dexterity with emotional illusions in order to gain an upper hand.

You're not as knowledgeable as you think you are.
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Well from what I understand. The age of Aquarius is supposed to explain all the technological advances..computers and such. Uranus is also supposed to be "the exposer"..when truths are revealed. I would say that a whole lot of lies from the past are now being revealed. Also ..under the influence of Uranus..tables turn. In other words.. whatever is on top goes to the bottom and visa versa. So that could mean that the people who are the underdogs of our world (blacks, people of color, women, the poor) will rise to the top under this influence and the people who are on top (europeans, whites, men , the wealthy) will take 2nd place in this age. Is it possible that the elite is aware of this and explains thier desperate and quickening attempt to push thier agenda? Maybe they know thier time is up? Your application of Aquarius's character to predict what that might mean in the Aquarian age was very interesting.
Uranus is brilliant in understanding how to filter out certain informations. Weighing the consequences, so being the exposer means they are also good at covering up the truth when necessary.

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The Aquarian age is about western civilization will have more people of color or from outside of Europe (and North America or Australia/New Zealand), we had developed an emphasis of a classless society or income based on meritocracy instead of solely royalty and nobility, and a new concept of gender identity and sexual orientation our society is currently under, our society was (or is being) transformed to be further inclusive of everyone in a very Aquarian manner.
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Once the Aquarian Age takes effect, the power of the mind will replace the power of technology....doesn't mean technology will stop advancing, just that it will no longer dominate.

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Pluto generations Leo (the Baby-boomers) vs. Sagittarius (millennials) will have a rivalry, because both are fire signs. When the Boomers were younger in the 1960s, they clashed with their elders: Pluto in Aries and Taurus generations (19th century) and Gemini (early 20th century). Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius are fixed signs, while Taurus-Scorpio and Leo-Aquarius are opposites. Generation gaps when they have their own ideas of making the world a better place: the old establishment wants to preserve the status quo vs. the new youth about to inherit the world. Debates and arguments on politics, religion, economics and sociocultural beliefs, values, mores and rules tend to intensify in our endless culture wars involved differing generations, esp. if their Plutos are in fire signs (Aries, Leo and Sagittarius) or opposite fixed signs. Currently, Pluto is in Capricorn in between Sag and Aquarius, the calm before the storm, and right when we're entering the Aquarian age.

I couldn't agree with you more. I have been checking the frequencies of the planets (Pluto, Saturn, Uranus). I am actually looking closely to the Great Conjunction 21 December 2020 13:22 6' South 30.3° East Aquarius. I believe we will at least understand the next 20 years. However we will have the Jupiter energy to help balance
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