Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

waybread

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I can't deal with this ignorance anymore. Trump has nothing to do with BLM; he wasn't even in the white house. BLM are burning down buildings, looting, rioting and killing. People are rewarding them for this by sending them millions of dollars. :andy:

Please read up on the fallacy of over-generalization.

Or maybe you are simply uninformed about the many peaceful Black Lives Matter demonstrations-- which are fully protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. It is unfair and illogical to associate the many peace-loving proponents of "liberty and justice for all" with the violence of a few. Some of whom appear to be white thugs and vandals.

As an American, I think the Pledge of Allegiance needs to deliver on its promise of justice for all, regardless of skin color.
 

waybread

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I don't like any of the choices for 2020 but will probably vote for Trump because I like his law and order mentality and his awareness of how dangerous terrorism is (domestic and international). He speaks out against BLM but his opponent Joe Biden is either too afraid or believes they are a benign group of thugs. I made this decision just recently as I've always supported the Democrats and oppose many of Trump's policies but I honestly believe the country needs a decisive, strong leader at this time. Now, can we get back on track for I'm not happy with David's interrogation. :sick:

Trump may have a law and order mentality, but he's done diddly squat about it in practice. In contrast, remember peaceful demonstrators getting unlawfully teargassed to clear the mall simply so that Trump could make a photo op statement by a church while holding up a Bible?

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials

He doesn't care about following the law.

He's a big phony.
 

waybread

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Get over yourself David, it's about BLM and stop following me like JupiterAC did to push me off the thread. :andy:
We NEED a dictator now to stand up against the left who have gone nuts and support anarchy, violence and death.

Surely you're joking.

If you are serious, then it is you who hates the United States.

Fascism is no alternative to a democracy governed by the Constitution. You think fascism is the answer to your apparent fears?

And there's that fallacy of over-generalization again. The average Democrat or Democratic-leading Independent does not support "anarchy, violence, and "death" any more than you do. That's another preposterous lie promoted by Trump fans.

Where are you getting your "information"? Breitbart? Fox News??
 

waybread

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You think a violent group who want to eliminate the police force within 5 years is going to go away quietly into that good night?:crying:
They are just getting started.:sad:
This is why I will vote for Trump; the country has to be protected from the woke left who have put control in the hands of violent thugs.

Please, blackbery. Take a deep breath and count to ten. Calm yourself.

Whatever group you refer to is minuscule in comparison to the great majority of Americans who simply want the federal government to return to moral principles, decency, and international respect.

Right now most of us have bigger worries, like Trump's major failure to contain Covid-19. Take a look at those data. Over 3 million cases so far, and the number of new cases is climbing steeply. Yet Trump won't even meet with his leading infectious disease specialists in the Centers for Disease Control. CV-19 doesn't care about your political opinions.

If you want to hyperventilate about something, CV-19 is a far bigger threat to your security and livelihood.

You are talking about people who are few in number, and not in the corridors of power.
 

waybread

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It's happening all across the country. Time for Federal authorities to step in and regulate the situation, like in all cases of the violation of Civil Rights. That's what ended the Jim Crow era.

David, what signaled the beginning of the end of Jim Crow were the Voting Rights Act (1965) and Civil Rights Act (1964) passed by Congress and signed by then-president Lyndon Johnson.

Johnson, a Texan, smoke-filled back-room politician, and southern good ol' boy knew how to get legislation passed.
 

waybread

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Before I sign off, I'm just wondering if anyone subscribes to the theory that much of the serious violence was fomented by Trump-supporting provocateurs, under a false flag.

The idea that George Soros was behind this sure sounds like a false flag to me. This man couldn't possibly mastermind all of the evil things that conspiracy theorists accuse him of. There aren't enough hours in the day. That he is a wealthy Jew is enough to set off *some* people given to thinking he's out for world domination or some such.

I think agents provocateurs are actually behind much of the violence.

I also wouldn't put it past Vladimir Putin. Destablizing the United States is part of his game plan. This is why he supports Donald Trump. That Trump owes a lot of unpaid debt to Russian mobsters has been well documented by investigative reporters.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/ It's a big hold that Putin has over Trump, and why Trump won't release his tax returns like every other presidential candidate.



Just my own little conspiracy theory, folks. :wink:
 

david starling

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Before I sign off, I'm just wondering if anyone subscribes to the theory that much of the serious violence was fomented by Trump-supporting provocateurs, under a false flag.

The idea that George Soros was behind this sure sounds like a false flag to me. This man couldn't possibly mastermind all of the evil things that conspiracy theorists accuse him of. There aren't enough hours in the day. That he is a wealthy Jew is enough to set off *some* people given to thinking he's out for world domination or some such.

I think agents provocateurs are actually behind much of the violence.

I also wouldn't put it past Vladimir Putin. Destablizing the United States is part of his game plan. This is why he supports Donald Trump. That Trump owes a lot of unpaid debt to Russian mobsters has been well documented by investigative reporters.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/ It's a big hold that Putin has over Trump, and why Trump won't release his tax returns like every other presidential candidate.



Just my own little conspiracy theory, folks. :wink:

I already posted the same theory on another thread.

It occurred to me that if this violence is helping Trump, it's highly unlikely Soros wouldn't have realized it. It's the actual shootings which are being blamed on BLM that sound the most agent provacateur--professional mercenaries.
 

david starling

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David, what signaled the beginning of the end of Jim Crow were the Voting Rights Act (1965) and Civil Rights Act (1964) passed by Congress and signed by then-president Lyndon Johnson.

Johnson, a Texan, smoke-filled back-room politician, and southern good ol' boy knew how to get legislation passed.

It's about States' Rights versus the Federal government. When it comes to civil rights as guaranteed to everyone, we can't just leave it up to the individual States or municipalities. Police brutality is in that category.
 

Opal

Premium Member
Can you list a few of the issues that are driving a wedge between previously friendly communities?

From what Oddity said, one of them might be the government's strict laws concerning absolute respect for "transgender rights". And, the extremely high price of housing?

Rich versus Poor
Men versus Women
Parents versus Children
Races versus other races
Territories of the same country versus others of the same country
Heterosexual versus the over twenty other sexuality’s
White collar versus blue collar
Healthy versus handicapped
Politicians versus everyone
Religious versus, religious, versus a religious
Believers versus conspiracy theorists
Stay homers versus go outers
Mask wearers versus no maskers

Do as you are told.
Sit Fido, sit.

When the governments want to do something they say things like
“We are going to change the abortion laws” and everybody gets in a snit, and while you are snitting, they change some law quietly that tighten the noose on the neck of your freedoms. You never saw it.

With COVID our right to assembly has been disturbed. We don’t talk.

The aboriginal Canadians were blocking the railroads. They need them for oil and gas. It was just quickly and quietly done. It is illegal to block anything that has anything to do with the oil industry.

Divide and conquer in as many ways as you can.

Wear a mask.

Do as you are told.
 
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david starling

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So is that why you agree with CNN all the time? :pouty:

Conservatives and Liberals are collective thinkers. I'm a Preambalist myself. You should read the Preamble some time. If it had the force of law, like it should, this country would be much better off.

I agree with Conservatives on some issues and with Liberals on others. And, I have my own personal ideas, theories, and beliefs as well.
 

Dirius

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Dirius, do you believe the official version of what really happened on 9/11?


I don't trust anything that comes out of the mouth of career politicians, or mass media conglomerates - because they make their living through the use of politics, and manipulating public perception. I also don't trust corporations who are in bed with politicians.

Which is one of the reasons I like Trump: he is not a career politician.
 

Dirius

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John Bolton - one of the main architects of the invasion of Iraq.

He was the guy who pushed the idea that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction. He was the one who told the world a war in the middle-east was required to stop the axis of evil.

We can say that the entire foreign policy of the U.S. and Europe in the Middle-East was shaped by John Bolton... a man who was a proven fraud.

And now?

He is against Trump.

He is a hero of the left.

Everyone loves Bolton, and uphelds his new book as "truth".

Wake up david.
 

waybread

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individual lives

there are collectives within collectives

but the smallest collective is the individual

the smallest minority groups are each individual person

individual rights solves all problems

Are you aware that Homo sapiens is a social animal? There are no societies on the planet-- and never have been-- that operate as loose aggregates of autonomous individuals.

I'm all for individual rights and freedoms. But with those come
responsibilities.

Maybe you'd prefer to abolish police and fire departments as too collective for your tastes.
 
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