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Long Story Short, a combination of rahu(north node) & shani(saturn) can really **** anyone off...


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Life is about overcoming opposition. The idea of "deserving" something is a mistake that humans make all the time. Things don't happen because you "deserve" them, good or bad. Things happen because you need them. For whatever reason, you needed to overcome parts of yourself through this kind of suffering. Everyone has their own flavour of suffering, though some do get it more intensely than others. There is no life that cannot be lived successfully. All can be made good somehow.

I would suggest that you not worry about relationships or sex right now. Whenever you begin something new (a job, a hobby, a relationship), you should first clean and quiet yourself so that you can know yourself in order to make good decisions. If you were to start a relationship as you are right now, you would only destroy it. The relationship you can build after meeting self will be much better than anything you could build right now. So, straighten out yourself before connecting to new people.

You can't trust anyone else to do this for you. Therapists might try, but they can only help in a limited fashion. They still give important help sometimes, but you're the one who is carrying the real burden. You need to clear your head of everything that everyone else keeps telling you and see what life really looks like through your own eyes. You need to search for the Truth that is beyond words. All the Universe is alive and is here with you right now. Find that and you will find Truth. Find Truth and you will find Peace. The solution is so much simpler than anyone expects!
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You need to clear your head of everything that everyone else keeps telling you and see what life really looks like through your own eyes. You need to search for the Truth that is beyond words. All the Universe is alive and is here with you right now. Find that and you will find Truth. Find Truth and you will find peace.
Thanks, I'd better read this whenever my mind travels through time.
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Hi friend! The thread is interesting!!


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Long Story Short, a combination of rahu(north node) & shani(saturn) can really **** anyone off...
only IF you want to be...

I notice your moon is apex for yod configuration..
Info on Yod’s
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TheYod15.5.htm
http://asphodelea.com/yods.html
http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_yod.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yod_(astrology)
http://realastrologers.com/?p=331
http://medicalastrologybyeileennauma...t-and-yod.html
http://thezodiac.com/yod.htm

http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconjunct-aspect-and-yod.html

moon square venus suggests that women you are attracted to don't fulfill you emotionally and vice versa...

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24933&highlight=venus+square+moon

Scorpio is not an overly sociable sign and chart ruler in first house suggest you can come accross as aloof, distant and powerful..

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only IF you want to be...

I notice your moon is apex for yod configuration..
This yod thing is quite entangled.What am I destined to do??
destroy myself because of a hopeless future! I think Yod signifies a very unfortunate, useless and pathetic existence.Especially the moon-pluto-neptune one.And my moon is in that eighth house.I guess I'm ******* cursed.
Jefferey Dahmer had a yod, maybe two, what was he destined to do?
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This yod thing is quite entangled.What am I destined to do??
destroy myself because of a hopeless future! I think Yod signifies a very unfortunate, useless and pathetic existence.Especially the moon-pluto-neptune one.And my moon is in that eighth house.I guess I'm ******* cursed.
Jefferey Dahmer had a yod, maybe two, what was he destined to do?
YOU are the captain of your ship and have FREE will...

You asked about saturn and North node.

Your saturn is afflicted by neptune and uranus...
When Saturn and Uranus fall in the same sign or house we get caught in a cleft stick, wanting to make changes but fearing to let go of the old.

Neptune in 3rd House – cadent house
How you think ‑ ideas (Cadent house). True inspiration and keep this to yourself! Spiritual experiences ‑ mental things you won't want to speak about. Very good imagination with possible uses such as writing books, fairy stories, romance stories. Called to make sacrifices for siblings. Possibly never had time to be a child. Dyslexia possible ‑ foggy and woolly mindedness ‑ head in clouds if badly aspected. Clear in your mind as to what you want to say, but doesn't come out how you mean it to! Procrastinate ‑ will put things off ‑ worry about it tomorrow attitude. Capacity for visualisation is often well developed. Musical. Telepathic tendencies. Inclined to study occult and mystical subjects. You feel you must share your knowledge impartially and act as a panel for information.


Saturn in the 3rd house
· Serious and penetrating mind. Capable of deep concentration. Keen sense of justice, early life apt to be unhappy.
· Once apart from his relatives may well feel no sense of kinship/family with them.
· Tendency to despondency and depression needs overcoming.
· Education possibly interrupted, but individual is an "eternal student." Will go on seeking knowledge the whole life. Apt to cling to the known and familiar due to unrecognised fear of new situations.
· Loneliness in childhood that needs understanding in later years.
· Lungs not strong here and Saturn says "Don't smoke." Saturn operates in the early life (ages 7 to 18).
· These people have structured and methodical minds well fitted to solving practical problems. Lack of confidence, however, may restrict full use of the imagination, and can hinder academic success. Slow at learning basic education (blockage)
· Possibly only child or eldest and felt they had to take responsibility for siblings
· They will judge their ideas according to their usefulness. Good for publishers or teaching. Make a good accountant and will be cautious about signing papers. Much use of telephone or letters in business.
Uranus in 3rd House - cadent house
· Humanity and social idealism will be prominent both in thought and discussions.
· They will have an unusual intuitive mind. Unconventional ones, will need mental stimulation and ­education for advancement. Interrupted early education quite possible
· Odd siblings. Unusual car.
· Great mental restlessness. Keen and alert mind but lacking in concentration.
· Sudden and unexpected urges to travel may keep this individual on the move.
· Upsets where brothers and sisters are concerned.
· Apt to feel bit like an alien in his home environment. Upsets in home life in growing up years can cause suffering especially if Uranus is afflicted.
· Dare to challenge existing educational and community facilities and policies. Welcome the collapse of outdated ideas rather than becoming a victim of them.

Saturn conj Neptune
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/satnepgestalt.html

Saturn conj neptune can show a fear of the unknown and good at managing personal finances..although these are generational planets, posited in bottom left quadrant makes them felt internally...It can also be linked to depression when triggered and/or having your childhood dreams crushed by father, males and/or authority figures

North node
http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodesouthnode.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/nodes.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php

http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Aut hentic%20Self
http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20in%20Taurus
http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/South%20Node%20Seventh%20House
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes

North node in air needs to learn to develop effective communications, freedom and independence. N Node in 4th house is to learn to build a solid foundation for family and future generations...
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Ruler of the Seventh House in the Tenth House
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Your spouse may want to be the authority figure in the partnership. Or on the other hand, you may be the one who wants to "rule the roost" so to speak. A partner can help you towards your career aims. You could be someone who puts marriage aside in favor of pursuing your career goals first.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...rships.htm#hr7
relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254409&postcount=9

Unfortunately, there is no set formula or signature for marriage or childbirth, although others may disagree, apparently horary and vedic seem confident in this area. There are indicators and potential as there would be with natal, solar return chart but guarantees -- (post 2 & 3 below)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=207744#post207744
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Fearing to let go of the old.Foggy and woolly mindednessProcrastinate.Visualisation.Early life apt to be unhappy.Once apart from his relatives may well feel no sense of kinship/family with them.Tendency to depression needs overcoming.Education possibly interrupted.Lack of confidence, however, may restrict full use of the imagination, and can hinder academic success. Slow at learning basic education.


This interruption in education is killing me.Since a couple of years I'm trying to get through with my education but one or the other thing always comes in between and leaves me feeling crushed.Whereas people somehow complete their studies, I'm stuck in limbo.It feels like fate has conspired against you.And if you cannot have your degree then you're worthless,ie, the usual plutonic all or nothing mindset.
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I'm glad things are starting to make sense. the saturn conj neptune not only can cause a fear of the unknown, but can be linked to depressions, espec when triggered by a transit... did you read the article? could you identify with it?
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I'm glad things are starting to make sense. the saturn conj neptune not only can cause a fear of the unknown, but can be linked to depressions, espec when triggered by a transit... did you read the article? could you identify with it?
Yes, the "loss of a dream" text is rather haunting.I never check ongoing transits but along with that conjunction, I believe most of my troubles(education,depression bouts) are caused by retro saturn in 3rd.Plus, I believe the north node is a pain in the ***.

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I notice your moon is apex for yod configuration..
I see two yods, moon-pluto-neptune and moon-pluto-saturn, two unwanted fingers of god..
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I see two yods, moon-pluto-neptune and moon-pluto-saturn, two unwanted fingers of god..
you need to embrace all facets and sides of you not just the selective bits you hoped were not there...I don't see two yods either, just because of your stellium in cappi...

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis

What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

If someone has the ‘generational Pluto sextile neptune’ (born after 1940) then there is always a possibility of creating a temporary Yod with quicker moving planets, progressions, solar arcs even and difficult situations where you could be forced into making decisions and worrying that you have made the wrong one. Saturn, Uranus are generational to and unless these two fall in first quadrant (the most personal) the may not even be felt if they create a temporary Yod…this could be *transformation through suffering* type aspect

Thread by R4ven on Yods
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Some of what you may feel/experience are:
  • things which happen out of the blue, and these things affect us, but are not created by us.
  • being faced with impossible choices, but where we are forced into choose something
  • a feeling of having been wronged in some way, and that we `don't deserve this' to be happening to us.
  • feeling like we're on a continual search for something in our lives, although we don't know what this `something' is.
  • well-made plans being interrupted, or even hijacked totally
  • difficulty in coping within formal education systems - eg. as in being given limited time frames in which to complete tasks (this can create high stress levels in anyone with a yod)
  • the yod itself does not provide any clear direction in life.
  • those with unaspected planets will have difficulty in using it effectively when put under pressure.
  • walking a different path, feeling `different' from others can lead to deep feelings of insecurity, and perhaps even believing themselves to have been `born into the wrong family'. (This one freaked me out a bit, since I spent much of my childhood believing this...)
  • with an unaspected planet, in childhood the over-developed effects of the planet may be suppressed in some way by parents. (eg. my brother has an unaspected `duet' between Mars and Jupiter. As a child he `bounced off the walls' and was a real handful. My mother took him to the Dr and he was put on some kind of sedative to calm him down. Eventually he became a successful athlete, and so this became a channel for his excessive energy.)
  • unconsciously developing towards future activities - perhaps over a period of years - without being aware of this.
  • a sense that one is a Spiritual Warrior, as you find that what seems to satisfy others in life in no way is satisfactory for you - that you are searching for `something more'.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15271&highlight=yods
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Moon Quincunx Neptune
“Romantic and idealistic, you easily project qualities onto situations and people that they can't possibly live up to. The root of this problem is really inaccurate self appraisal. You expect more from yourself than is realistic, then react to your shortcomings with guilt driven service to others and deep expression of overly sympathetic feelings. In the long run you have many opportunities through this aspect of your nature to refine and express your higher vision of the truth to others. Through this expression your daily life becomes a clearer picture of your true inner being.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

“You are like a mother hen seeking to protect her brood when danger threatens. Unconsciously, however, you are constantly seeking situations in which you can persecute yourself. Your imagination works overtime in creating problems to solve.
In any endeavour you must determine the limits of your responsibilities and avoid volunteering for additional tasks. Your physical constitution cannot tolerate abuse. Good food, nutritiously prepared under clean conditions, is absolutely necessary.Your romantic interests may prove disappointing until you can relate to others honestly and realistically. It is not easy for you to see people as they really are”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag
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Moon Quincunx Pluto
You confuse intensity with desire, and need with love. As a consequence of this, your relationships with others (especially romantic partners) can be powerful and "spicy" without engendering much closeness. It takes time for you to recognize the habits that get in the way of intimacy; it takes time to alter them once recognized. Letting go of negative history lays the groundwork for change. Give others permission to be different than everyone else has been before. Through this, you give yourself permission to be different.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“indicates a personality that it precariously balanced. You must learn to temper your emotional compulsiveness with objectivity. You may have assumed that to gain anyone's love you must submit to them. Thus you overreact to other people's demands. You wrongly believe that those who use you must care for you in some way. But submission to another only earns you contempt. You have to unlearn old habit systems and develop new ones to avoid being. You will be at the mercy of others until you gather the strength to say no.”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag
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you need to embrace all facets and sides of you not just the selective bits you hoped were not there...I don't see two yods either, just because of your stellium in cappi...

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis

What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

[FONT=Verdana]If someone has the ‘generational Pluto sextile neptune’ (born after 1940) then there is always a possibility of creating a temporary Yod with quicker moving planets, progressions, solar arcs even and difficult situations where you could be forced into making decisions and worrying that you have made the wrong one. Saturn, Uranus are generational to and unless these two fall in first quadrant (the most personal) the may not even be felt if they create a temporary Yod…this could be *transformation through suffering* type aspect
Thanks for the replies.Yods are complicated.The energy provided by a yod can seldom be used.And that too after thorough self analysis.

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