My daughter has moon square uranus

I have a four month old daughter and she has moon conjunct mars (orb 1º), square uranus (orb 3º) and opposition pluto (orb 6º). What I'm most worried about is the moon sq uranus, because I have always read that it means an erratic, non-emotional, abandoning type of mother. I as a triple (actually cuadruple) cancer cannot imagine myself this way. I have a moon sq pluto and have a very difficult mother and I definitely don't want to be like this with my child. I am very affectionate with her. I adore her. I have always loved babies and wanted to be a mother, so I can't imagine being a uranus type mother or being perceived this way. I'm usually a quiet, peaceful person and sweet, though I do sometimes have outburst of anger that don't last long. I suppose it's my moon sq pluto. My daughter's moon is exactly conjunct to my moon which probably means there is a strong emotional connection, but that uranus is scaring me.

I want to know if you know anyone with moon sq uranus that actually has a warm and affectionate relationship with their mother.

I'm afraid this might mean some kind of trauma in her life, that something is going to happen that will make me some kind of absent mom.

A few years ago an astrologer told me I would be an absent mom for my children and I think he interpreted that from my neptune in 5th and moon in 12th. I feel like my daughter's chart is confirming this somehow, but I don't see myself this way.

I am attaching my chart and her chart.

Thanks

The moon in a natal chart symbolizes one's experience of one's mother. It really isn't more than that, because you can have several siblings, all with their moons involving different signs, aspects, and houses.

With her moon conjunct Mars in Cancer, your daughter probably will have very strong feelings. With the Uranus square, they may be very changeable. You might prepare yourself for a few tantrums when she reaches the terrible twos! And a few more emotional scenes when she becomes a teenager and wants to stay out at all hours.

With her moon conjunct her ascendant, your daughter will probably be very attractive!

The amazing thing about your two charts is that your Cancer moons are in the same degree. I think this means you two will share an almost psychic bond. You will probably be able to feel or sense the other one's moods and thoughts without saying anything, as Cancer moons are highly intuitive.

Children respond beautifully to unconditional love; which you, Cancer Mama, are well-qualified to give. If you can give your beautiful daughter firm but fair discipline and unconditional love, there is no reason to worry about what type of mother you will be.

I wish astrologers wouldn't frighten people unnecessarily. Each planetary placement will "out" in some way, but you have a choice as to how you will express it. I suspect this astrologer was looking at your 12th house moon, but there are so many alternative ways it can express itself. I suspect you are a very private person, who enjoys working behind the scenes rather than being center-stage in life. You may need a certain amount of down-time just to be yourself and recharge your emotional batteries. Young children can demand 100% of your time, but it is OK to create a little time just for yourself so that you feel restored after a demanding day.

Jupiter rules your 5th house of children. With Neptune in this house, you may have a very optimistic, idealistic view of motherhood, so don't be surprised when a few reality-checks take the glow off your beautiful views. But everyone has Neptune somewhere-- and it often shows where we can be overly idealistic or unrealistic. Yours just happens to be in the 5th. On the other hand, you will probably be great at creating a magical, imaginative space for your daughter-- as you read stories, allow her to play dress-up, and so on.

How wonderful to have a new baby girl at home, Mama! I would recommend that you relax and enjoy your beautiful daughter.

Thank you waybread for your reply. I also thought about the future tantrums! She's usually very calm, but when she cries, oh boy does she cry! Has a good pair of lungs!

You are right, she is very beautiful!

You are also so right about my need to have some time alone, this is so true.

I guess I feel a lot of pressure to be a good mom (I'm the one putting all this pressure), because I don't want to repeat the mistakes my parents made and all the bad moments they put me through. I know I have to find balance, because it's also not good to go to extremes. My mom didn't want to be like her own mother, and ended up being a very difficult person anyways.

Thanks again!

Make a list of all the ways you want to bring up your daughter differently from the way you were....and remind yourself of it when she stops being a tiny baby and become authentically the child she is. If her experience of YOU is of someone who is erratic and unpredictable, she will lose trust in you very early.

So KNOWING this in advance, you will have to learn to discipline your OWN emotions. You may need help in this....and that is what counselors and psychologists are for. We WANT to be different from our own original caregivers, but everything is "habit" and you have yours. You must find alternate ways to work out your frustrations.

But mostly you must not be too proud to seek help if needed. All children test us and need guidance and discipline...but it is the "nature" of the guidance and discipline which is the difference between having a child who is your friend later in life and one who wants nothing to do with you.

And always remember: YOU are her "role model" for love and security and her own value. And there are some wonderful books about raising children consciously and with their needs (immediate and future) in mind as well as your own.
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Hi triplecancer. Congratulations. Its perhaps important to keep in mind that a lot of children are being born with the Moon in hard major aspect to both Uranus and Pluto at the moment, because of the ongoing transiting Uranus Pluto square. Depending on what orbs we use, perhaps about one child in every eight - these children will carry the energy of the square into the future through their lunar natures. You will share Uranus and Pluto transits to the natal Moon over the coming year or so, because your natal Moons have a similar zodiacal position. This is bound to be a little unsettling for both of you, but it is part of your daughter's process of becoming who she is, and learning to meet the need of society /humanity which she is predisposed to fufil.

Its interesting that she has Moon in the 11th and Uranus in the 7th. Moon in the 11th suggests that when you are not directly caring for her, she will tend to see you as going off to enjoy or reform your socio-cultural environment. Uranus in the 7th squared by the Moon suggests that she may experience your close associations with others as potentially disruptive to your mothering of her, whether or not this is really the case. So it could be that when you want to socialise or pursue some ideal, your daughter gets agitated in a way that she wouldn't if you were, say, going to work. Or perhaps she will see even work as a social thing that could potentially disrupt your mothering of her in some way.

Only you, as her mother, will know where the balance lies between being sensitive to her needs and allowing her to experience the fact that things can't go her way all the time. Ultimately, her happiness lies in being confident that she can fulfil her need for closeness and her need for freedom, and so she is looking to you to model that possibility with some degree of confidence. If you pander only to the Moon in Cancer needs, she will project Uranus onto the world and fear and attract disruption anyway.

The transits of Uranus and Pluto to your Moon could manifest in all sorts of ways. You may get claustrophobic as a mother at times and need to get involved in something else, or you may find yourself challenging conventional approaches to parenting in some way - perhaps offering support to parents who share your doubts about these conventions. You may find that the trials of parenting bring things to the surface which are left over from your own experience of being parented, thus liberating you from your past to some extent. Whatever happens, the important thing is to keep an eye on what begins to emerge within you so that you can consciously integrate it into your life - as an individual and as a mother - as it arises.

[FONT=Andalus, serif]Dec 26: what a wonderful Christmas gift for you! Congratulations![/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]You have been given some very good advice here: [/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]I am a Cancer mom myself, and I have spent a lot of time studying the generational 'themes' that get passed down by one generation to the next. Both my daughters have the Cancer influence as well, one with Cancer Rising, the other Cancer Sun. I can tell you that they are very different from each other, yet both have played out a familial trend of experiencing domestic abuse in their lives...it started with my maternal grandmother, then to my mother, then to me and subsequently to the daughters [I believe as fated by an evolutionary standpoint, in terms of my SN in Cancer] .[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]I am hoping that my two granddaughters will avoid this and serve to end the cycle. [/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Indeed the common theme for you and your own daughter is that involving the polarity between Venus and Neptune. My experience with this has proven to be very disorienting and mystifying for me as a parent; the one daughter is very enigmatic to me much of the time, while all the time attempting to be the devoted daughter; she has been good at masquerading at times, and acting rather like a chameleon to gain favour while her true intentions and motivations have ended up being quite different. I think this might be your bigger challenge in life, as it can be highly disorienting and mystifying for a parent. Consider how this has played out in your own life: [deceptions, betrayals, disappointments,etc] and then try to apply that knowledge to the grounding you are giving her. Do enjoy the pleasure and excitement of your baby; you really cannot what will actually develop in her own life, as that will depend largely on later transits around her own wheel of the chart. I also suggest that you do not take your responsibilities too seriously, always being anxious and worried about her; when we do , we forget to enjoy the unfolding of their personality. [/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Blessed be and good luck to you. [/FONT]

It really doesn't automatically about the mother, it could be family, early childhood, the foods she may eat, things and people that she finds comforting and would like to nurture, also representing her own future family, her future womanhood, and the women in her life.

The placement of Moon in her chart in own rulership placed in fortunate house 11th house, even as a square to Uranus Rx in the 7th house which connecting to the Mars in Cancer. The conjunction of Mars in Cancer to Moon and Pluto at IC however worth better understanding.

Moon square Uranus it is more to do with her friends, one to one relationship attitude with Chiron tightly conjoining the natal DC. Also there are far too many things worth studying. Like the SN in Taurus with Venus in Virgo at AC.

But what I would like to stress here as there are many possibilities and really should not worry so much for the future when you are right now having the power to build a positive manifestations out of many.

You have free will involved, therefore if you do not want to be an absent mother you won't be. . And with Cancer Moon, I doubt you could be. I think the conjunction of your Moons points to being very close with your daughter although she may want a lot more independence from you than you want to give her. She will likely frustrate you at times with her Mars and Uranus on your Moon.

As for your daughter alone, I believe the T-Squaure with Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Uranus will make your daughter pretty temperamental. The lack of tolerance for others as in the tendency for "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" when she doesn't get her way could be a problem until she finds a way to work with these energies. I would suggest you watch her closely to see what she loves to do and harvest this love of hers to pour her energy and emotions into. Perhaps a contact sport would be a good option. This should go a long way to mitigate temper problems. With the ruler of the 4th house of home and family ruler Jupiter conjunct Mars and square Uranus and Opposing Pluto, there could be disruption in the home life such as divorce and moving to different residences to give some examples.

I do agree your daughter will be extremely attractive probably with dimples. . With Venus in positive aspect to Moon, Mars, and Jupiter, she will make very good first impression.

triplecancer said:

I have a four month old daughter and she has moon conjunct mars (orb 1º), square uranus (orb 3º) and opposition pluto (orb 6º). What I'm most worried about is the moon sq uranus, because I have always read that it means an erratic, non-emotional, abandoning type of mother. I as a triple (actually cuadruple) cancer cannot imagine myself this way. I have a moon sq pluto and have a very difficult mother and I definitely don't want to be like this with my child. I am very affectionate with her. I adore her. I have always loved babies and wanted to be a mother, so I can't imagine being a uranus type mother or being perceived this way. I'm usually a quiet, peaceful person and sweet, though I do sometimes have outburst of anger that don't last long. I suppose it's my moon sq pluto. My daughter's moon is exactly conjunct to my moon which probably means there is a strong emotional connection, but that uranus is scaring me.

I want to know if you know anyone with moon sq uranus that actually has a warm and affectionate relationship with their mother.

I'm afraid this might mean some kind of trauma in her life, that something is going to happen that will make me some kind of absent mom.

A few years ago an astrologer told me I would be an absent mom for my children and I think he interpreted that from my neptune in 5th and moon in 12th. I feel like my daughter's chart is confirming this somehow, but I don't see myself this way.

I am attaching my chart and her chart.

Thanks

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One difficult aspect for the Moon doesn't give an overall impression just as one easy aspect doesn't carry the entire chart. Your daughter is still only months old and has many years to grow up and change- like a good 30 years! Children are temperamental, no matter what chart they have, that's part of being a kid and growing up. My chart looks like I have a Grand Cross when I actually don't and my father freaked out when I was born and because of that, he didn't want to look my chart after that. You're born with what you're born with and there's no changing that. What changes is how the person uses their chart as they learn.

I have Pisces Moon trine Scorpio Uranus and my mother wasn't really "there" for me. As a matter of fact, she talked my father into sending me away because she couldn't emotionally handle a lot of things that happened. As a result, my upbringing was a lot of ups and downs and I didn't see my parents consistently and held a lot of resentment towards both of them, esp. my mother.

One would think that because I have the trine that my mother and I were close while I was growing up, but it was the opposite. If you take a closer look at my chart, basically every other planet opposes or squares my Moon. My mom and I are close now, where I can basically tell her anything and she can tell me anything without either of us offending each other but this didn't happen until I started my Saturn's return at age 27/28. Natally, I have Libra Saturn opposite Pisces Moon by aspect (inconjunct by signs) so maybe that was the trigger.

Still... you never really know. Kids don't know all that much about their parents and on many levels, parents don't know much about their kids. There's a lot of love and acceptance required but to get to know a person really well requires unbiased interaction and there can never really be any impartiality between parent and child.

Vista said:

I think we all have to remember, most of us have challenges in our natal charts to work through in specific areas of our life....it's our lot in this lifetime. You find many people with easy charts can be some of the biggest sloths in society whereas people with challenged charts are some of the most successful. The challenging aspects are what gives grit and determination to keep pushing forward. The good thing with your daughter, she has outlets (easy aspects) to help work through the challenging one's in her chart. With all the water in her chart which can make one a little apathetic, having the T square with Mars, Pluto and Uranus might give her the push she needs to accomplish. A man I dated had a Grand Mutable Cross....he is an incredibly gifted artist, very athletic, and extremely intelligent and educated. He takes art classes weekly, runs and workouts daily, and obtained an MBA. He found a constructive way to work through the challenges of his chart.

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Does too much Water gives way to apathy? I thought it would make the person care so much that when they're disappointed, they become forever the walking wounded. Too much Air for sure has a tendency to be apathetic because of ease of detachment.

I don't think a lot of trines gives way to laziness no more than a lot difficult aspects motivating achievement. It all depends on the chart and how the native utilizes the energy they have at their disposal. Charts show propensity or likelihood but there's still free will and choices involved.

This is just a baby! Trying to figure out how this kid would behave is not only disturbing to me but the chart is read like the native is an adult who can make decisions. Shouldn't we wait until at least 18 or 20 years from now to interpret the chart? Geez...

I feel giving the mother constructive ways to work with challenges in the babies chart is being proactive and maximizing her daughter’s potential. Again, we are all born with issues wouldn't be great to hear suggestions of working positively with these energies? She doesn't have to accept our analysis as an absolute truth but if there are helpful things she can gather here and there perhaps it will be useful down the road. I think the main point is to not judge the mother because she wants help with her daughters chart.

Too much air in my opinion lack feeling, they tend to analyze too much so you are correct in that they can become apathetic due to the over analyzing. With an abundance of water or trines, Grand Water Trine, yes, the empathy and the very feeling nature are certainly there, but with water there is lack of "get up and go" associated with this and a tendency to let things happen as they may. Now if there are Mars or Saturn involved/connected, this can add drive and the ability to see things through to the personality. A Grand Water trine can be self-insulating and lead to inertia especially when the Moon, Jupiter, Neptune are involved without help from Mars or Saturn.

I know a lot of people talk about free will and I mentioned it here myself, however, I am a person who truly believes "it's always meant to be" and no free will is involved.

may28gemini said:

Does too much Water gives way to apathy? I thought it would make the person care so much that when they're disappointed, they become forever the walking wounded. Too much Air for sure has a tendency to be apathetic because of ease of detachment.

I don't think a lot of trines gives way to laziness no more than a lot difficult aspects motivating achievement. It all depends on the chart and how the native utilizes the energy they have at their disposal. Charts show propensity or likelihood but there's still free will and choices involved.

This is just a baby! Trying to figure out how this kid would behave is not only disturbing to me but the chart is read like the native is an adult who can make decisions. Shouldn't we wait until at least 18 or 20 years from now to interpret the chart? Geez...

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Vista said:

I feel giving the mother constructive ways to work with challenges in the babies chart is being proactive and maximizing her daughter’s potential. Again, we are all born with issues wouldn't be great to hear suggestions of working positively with these energies? She doesn't have to accept our analysis as an absolute truth but if there are helpful things she can gather here and there perhaps it will be useful down the road. I think the main point is to not judge the mother because she wants help with her daughters chart.

Too much air in my opinion lack feeling, they tend to analyze too much so you are correct in that they can become apathetic due to the over analyzing. With an abundance of water or trines, Grand Water Trine, yes, the empathy and the very feeling nature are certainly there, but with water there is lack of "get up and go" associated with this and a tendency to let things happen as they may. Now if there are Mars or Saturn involved/connected, this can add drive and the ability to see things through to the personality. A Grand Water trine can be self-insulating and lead to inertia especially when the Moon, Jupiter, Neptune are involved without help from Mars or Saturn.

I know a lot of people talk about free will and I mentioned it here myself, however, I am a person who truly believes "it's always meant to be" and no free will is involved.

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It's true, parents are overly protective and people can take suggestions from those who offer it, I just find it disturbing to further explore the child's chart when she's barely born and her personality hasn't developed yet. So much time is available for the child to grow up and learn, and be taught or molded (depending on the style of parenting) that anything could possibly go.

My Scorpio father thought he saw a grand cross in my chart when I was born and freaked out and didn't look at it afterwards. He also knows that I have a lot of Air (6 out of 10 planets are in Air) and he himself has a Grand Air Kite so he does sympathize with me on my detachment to the world. He is a bit detached, but not to my extent. I think as a result of seeing my chart at birth and freaking out, he decided to be EXTRA Scorpio and suffocate me by being too interested in my activities, showing too much concern over me, and just basically being a pesky Water parent. He made a lot of excuses for my Airy distance and I think he shouldn't have. That ended up pushing me away further to the point of me running away and shutting him out by not communicating for 5 years. I mean, I came back to him on my own accord, but that did not happen until the start of my Saturn's return.

Sure, there are certain things in a person's chart that's not really "changeable" but I come from the standpoint of someone who has very little fixed planets (2-Mars and Uranus) and everything else is mutable and cardinal where I am convinced that there's an ability to conscious shift behavior. I mean, is it really written in my chart that I'd be apathetic because I have so much Air, without my father's interference? Probably... but he certain did his part and tipped my scales. I might not be equipped to be a cuddly gushy creature, but I might have learned some of those traits on my own, on my own time, and under my own terms.

So, the reason why I am a bit sensitive about this is because my father looked at my chart like I'm an adult when I was just born and assumed that I'd be a cold hearted, insensitive, little beast and tried to "correct" that which further agitated me and made me run away. I say, let the child be herself and see what happens. Too much fidgeting could backfire and really blow up... like in my dad's case. He really missed me when I was gone.

I will trade you, I could use a little detachment right about now with a Grand Water Kite.

I understand what you are saying from a person who has a very controlling, domineering Scorpio mother. I don't like to tell her things because she gets too involved and it's very irritating. Now I tell her very little about my life even though we live together temporarily.

Another thought, I wonder if your father had posted your chart here on astrology weekly(obviously Internet was not around at that time but if it was....) perhaps he would have been more reassured and less freaked out that a Grand Air Kite could be very gifted? I can already tell you are incredibly bright, I bet you have some things you are extremely talented in. Maybe it's more about perspective?

Let's see what the OP replies, maybe she can shed some light on how she views our replies.

may28gemini said:

It's true, parents are overly protective and people can take suggestions from those who offer it, I just find it disturbing to further explore the child's chart when she's barely born and her personality hasn't developed yet. So much time is available for the child to grow up and learn, and be taught or molded (depending on the style of parenting) that anything could possibly go.

My Scorpio father thought he saw a grand cross in my chart when I was born and freaked out and didn't look at it afterwards. He also knows that I have a lot of Air (6 out of 10 planets are in Air) and he himself has a Grand Air Kite so he does sympathize with me on my detachment to the world. He is a bit detached, but not to my extent. I think as a result of seeing my chart at birth and freaking out, he decided to be EXTRA Scorpio and suffocate me by being too interested in my activities, showing too much concern over me, and just basically being a pesky Water parent. He made a lot of excuses for my Airy distance and I think he shouldn't have. That ended up pushing me away further to the point of me running away and shutting him out by not communicating for 5 years. I mean, I came back to him on my own accord, but that did not happen until the start of my Saturn's return.

Sure, there are certain things in a person's chart that's not really "changeable" but I come from the standpoint of someone who has very little fixed planets (2-Mars and Uranus) and everything else is mutable and cardinal where I am convinced that there's an ability to conscious shift behavior. I mean, is it really written in my chart that I'd be apathetic because I have so much Air, without my father's interference? Probably... but he certain did his part and tipped my scales. I might not be equipped to be a cuddly gushy creature, but I might have learned some of those traits on my own, on my own time, and under my own terms.

So, the reason why I am a bit sensitive about this is because my father looked at my chart like I'm an adult when I was just born and assumed that I'd be a cold hearted, insensitive, little beast and tried to "correct" that which further agitated me and made me run away. I say, let the child be herself and see what happens. Too much fidgeting could backfire and really blow up... like in my dad's case. He really missed me when I was gone.

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Vista said:

I will trade you, I could use a little detachment right about now with a Grand Water Kite.

I understand what you are saying from a person who has a very controlling, domineering Scorpio mother. I don't like to tell her things because she gets too involved and it's very irritating. Now I tell her very little about my life even though we live together temporarily.

Another thought, I wonder if your father had posted your chart here on astrology weekly(obviously Internet was not around at that time but if it was....) perhaps he would have been more reassured and less freaked out that a Grand Air Kite could be very gifted? I can already tell you are incredibly bright, I bet you have some things you are extremely talented in. Maybe it's more about perspective?

Let's see what the OP replies, maybe she can shed some light on how she views our replies.

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AHAHAHAHAHA no, I'm not the one with the Grand Air Kite, my uber Scorpio father has that!! For a Scorpio Sun/Merc/Venus/Saturn like my father- in the 7th house no less- the Grand Air Kite really works wonders on him. Yup, still suffocating like a Scorpio would naturally be, but there's a calmness to him that's not native to Water signs.

I honestly think no matter what signs the parent and child are... it's not a nice combo. It's sort of like "uh oh, I'm in the same room with someone I share a lot of my genetic material with...better avoid interacting!" I suppose parents will always be suffocating and annoying and children will always avoid their parents no matter what the ages are, it's just the nature of that relationship.
Ironically, I'm staying with my father now, in his house while visiting for the holidays. We don't have much to say to each other, and I find that to be totally agreeable. We'd probably talk like normal people if it weren't for his evil wife looming around so much

Thanks. I have domiciled anaretic and super scammy Gemini Mercury. We're proud tricksters of the zodiac. I do not have Grand Air anything. I have Gemini Sun/Merc/Venus and Libra Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto... nothing in Aqua unless you count Aqua SN. No, I actually have a mystic rectangle which my father probably should have responded well to, but a fake Grand Cross gave him the jitters. I have very little Water in my chart, just a late Pisces Moon trine Scorpio Uranus. Meh... Pisces Moon grosses me out. Sweet sort of Moon, but really, my Moon is in the face of Mars so I'm a rabble rouser and not all that docile.

I've always felt a mixture of being grossed out and having sympathy for the poor devils with too much Water. It's gotta be really murky feeling like you're lost at sea or in an underwater torture chamber! No, I'd never trade my detachment for anything else. If reincarnation works, my soul must have crawled through a lot of Earth, drowned in a lot of Water, and burned through the h3ll blazes of Fire to finally get to the point of windy Air, and early Libra Saturn, too. I hope that after this life, I'd be done. I feel old and tired of the BS life brings and wish nothing better than to retire on a modest houseboat on the French Rivera and await sailing into "the light." How's that for Airy detachment?

He has 0ºLibra Saturn...

http://youtu.be/DPgMjXhqmfw

With Moon and Mars in the 11th square an Aries Uranus, she's probably just going to be a rebel all her life - "what are you rebelling against? Whattaya got?". This will likely have nothing to do with you - but with this placement I would definitely guard against being too strict or smothering as this would likely make her rebel even more. Moon and Mars are opposite Pluto so being under someone's thumb is never going to sit well with her, especially at home. With Moon and Mars in the 11th, she is also going to be highly impressionable from peer pressure. Keep an eye on her friends.

triplecancer said:

I have a four month old daughter and she has moon conjunct mars (orb 1º), square uranus (orb 3º) and opposition pluto (orb 6º). What I'm most worried about is the moon sq uranus, because I have always read that it means an erratic, non-emotional, abandoning type of mother.

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Ugh. Ok, so I have Moon in Pisces, and one of my three daughters also has Moon in Pisces. If I read what you have probably read, it means that the mother is likely a drug or alcolhol abuser and completely neglects the child. Sheesh. This is what happens when we try to parse a chart, any chart, down to it's bits and not look at it as a whole.

Everyone always wants to look at the Moon for the Mother, but traditionally there were several ways to find the almuten of the mother...regardless, Moon represents mother in a night chart. Your daughter has a day chart (Sun above the horizon.) Hello people?? where, exactly, is Venus in this daughter's chart??

triplecancer said:

I as a triple (actually cuadruple) cancer cannot imagine myself this way. I have a moon sq pluto and have a very difficult mother and I definitely don't want to be like this with my child. I am very affectionate with her. I adore her. I have always loved babies and wanted to be a mother, so I can't imagine being a uranus type mother or being perceived this way. I'm usually a quiet, peaceful person and sweet, though I do sometimes have outburst of anger that don't last long. I suppose it's my moon sq pluto. My daughter's moon is exactly conjunct to my moon which probably means there is a strong emotional connection, but that uranus is scaring me.

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Before you get wound up about Uranus, a planet that traditional astrologers don't consider, you should seriously look at your daughter's Cancer planets. Moon conjunct Mars, in this case, is likely only going to manifest the way waybread suggests. Why? Because even though Mars is out of sect (a nocturnal masculine planet in a day chart/feminine sign)...holy wow. Look, would you, at the support from a domiciled Moon and an exalted Jupiter?

triplecancer said:

I want to know if you know anyone with moon sq uranus that actually has a warm and affectionate relationship with their mother.

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Well, I didn't get the square, but I have Moon opposed both Pluto and Uranus, on the 6/12 axis. Do I have a "warm and affectionate relationship" with my mother? I wouldn't exactly call it that. Do I have an amazing relationship with my mother? Yes. Yes I do.

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I'm afraid this might mean some kind of trauma in her life, that something is going to happen that will make me some kind of absent mom.

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Of course you are afraid of that. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Uranus or any other planet. You are afraid of that because down deep, in the still of the night, it is what every mother fears.

triplecancer said:

A few years ago an astrologer told me I would be an absent mom for my children and I think he interpreted that from my neptune in 5th and moon in 12th. I feel like my daughter's chart is confirming this somehow, but I don't see myself this way.

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In my studies, I've had occasion to learn from both amature and professional astrologers. Know what? The pros (the ones who actually get paid for readings) are the ones who will most often mess it up. A few years ago...never mind what I was told. Let's just say it lead me on a journey of learning and discovery just to prove that astrologer wrong. And I haven't looked back.

Ahhh, interesting!!!

I personally love Gemini's to be honest, funniest people around! Maybe it's because my Moon is in Mercury's Term and Face?

Yes, I can be sappy at times which is a real drag. If I didn't have a Water Grand trine(Kite) involving my Cancer Moon, I would be much more detached....with Cap Sun, Mer/Sat Aquarius, Venus in Sag, and Mars in Leo!! Talk about an imbalance! LOL! Completely messes me up! In fact, I am mostly Earth and Fire. Is your N Neptune's depositor in Sag then? What about Jupiter? Maybe this explains your Pisces Moon's ability to detach too?

How cool you have a Mystic Rectangle - not very common to be sure! Bad miss by old pops. But I am with you on not talking much, I don't really associate with my mom at all, I just hang out in my room mostly. I like a lot of privacy - Moon in my 4th. I am with you on the French Riviera Idea! But hey, I am a loaner through and through, I will probably end up on some farm with all my animals and be very happy living that way!

may28gemini said:

AHAHAHAHAHA no, I'm not the one with the Grand Air Kite, my uber Scorpio father has that!! For a Scorpio Sun/Merc/Venus/Saturn like my father- in the 7th house no less- the Grand Air Kite really works wonders on him. Yup, still suffocating like a Scorpio would naturally be, but there's a calmness to him that's not native to Water signs.

I honestly think no matter what signs the parent and child are... it's not a nice combo. It's sort of like "uh oh, I'm in the same room with someone I share a lot of my genetic material with...better avoid interacting!" I suppose parents will always be suffocating and annoying and children will always avoid their parents no matter what the ages are, it's just the nature of that relationship.
Ironically, I'm staying with my father now, in his house while visiting for the holidays. We don't have much to say to each other, and I find that to be totally agreeable. We'd probably talk like normal people if it weren't for his evil wife looming around so much

Thanks. I have domiciled anaretic and super scammy Gemini Mercury. We're proud tricksters of the zodiac. I do not have Grand Air anything. I have Gemini Sun/Merc/Venus and Libra Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto... nothing in Aqua unless you count Aqua SN. No, I actually have a mystic rectangle which my father probably should have responded well to, but a fake Grand Cross gave him the jitters. I have very little Water in my chart, just a late Pisces Moon trine Scorpio Uranus. Meh... Pisces Moon grosses me out. Sweet sort of Moon, but really, my Moon is in the face of Mars so I'm a rabble rouser and not all that docile.

I've always felt a mixture of being grossed out and having sympathy for the poor devils with too much Water. It's gotta be really murky feeling like you're lost at sea or in an underwater torture chamber! No, I'd never trade my detachment for anything else. If reincarnation works, my soul must have crawled through a lot of Earth, drowned in a lot of Water, and burned through the h3ll blazes of Fire to finally get to the point of windy Air, and early Libra Saturn, too. I hope that after this life, I'd be done. I feel old and tired of the BS life brings and wish nothing better than to retire on a modest houseboat on the French Rivera and await sailing into "the light." How's that for Airy detachment?

He has 0ºLibra Saturn...

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tsmall said:

In my studies, I've had occasion to learn from both amature and professional astrologers. Know what? The pros (the ones who actually get paid for readings) are the ones who will most often mess it up. A few years ago...never mind what I was told. Let's just say it lead me on a journey of learning and discovery just to prove that astrologer wrong. And I haven't looked back.

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That's because there's two kinds of astrologers - those who get so hung up on the "rules" and can't think beyond them, and those who use the "rules" as guidelines and let intuition guide them. This not only goes for astrologers, but therapists, doctors, computer technicians, mechanics, etc -

mdinaz said:

That's because there's two kinds of astrologers - those who get so hung up on the "rules" and can't think beyond them, and those who use the "rules" as guidelines and let intuition guide them. This not only goes for astrologers, but therapists, doctors, computer technicians, mechanics, etc -

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There's been so much animosity towards those, like me, who follow the old ways, that I'm not sure if this is meant the way I read it, but since I pretty much let my own intuition guide me...I agree. The thing is, learn the rules, so that when you are breaking them you know why.