Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > Welcome! > Read My Chart

Read My Chart If you want to have your astrological chart read and do not post an astrological interpretation along with your chart request, your postings go here. No one is required to read any chart request and it is greatly appreciated if people who have chart requests acknowledge those who were kind enough to answer their request. If you want an astrological chart reading using the Vedic method (square astrological charts), your postings go in the Vedic Astrology forum."Read My Chart" type postings found in the rest of the forum will be moved here.


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 09-29-2011, 12:31 AM
Rebel Uranian's Avatar
Rebel Uranian Rebel Uranian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: My natural habitat
Posts: 2,090
Malefic Envelope

Is this on its own a positive influence? I realized a while ago that it was indeed Mars-Saturn-Uranus-Pluto in an envelope but forgot for a while to ask if this is was good or not. I think it probably is, but I still find it interestingly coincidental at least.


Last edited by Rebel Uranian; 11-25-2011 at 09:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 09-29-2011, 05:17 AM
Hina Hina is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 24
Re: Malefic Envelope

Its a Cardinal Grand Cross right?
Check this link for starters
http://www.indigoray.net/grandcross.html
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 09-29-2011, 02:24 PM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,695
Re: Malefic Envelope

sorry you don't have an envelop but a 'cradle' aspect configuration.

envelopes involve a mystic rectangle, not grand trine...

http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figu...ed-aspects.php
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 09-29-2011, 09:11 PM
Rebel Uranian's Avatar
Rebel Uranian Rebel Uranian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: My natural habitat
Posts: 2,090
Re: Malefic Envelope

Does the "sorry" refer to it not being as good or just that I messed up my terminology? Wouldn't it be better because it's more focused?

I'm still wondering what exactly the influence of this pattern and the planets involved will be. I have my own ideas, but it's always interesting to hear what other people have to say most of the time. Earlier I had the idea of what would happen if there was a Saturn-Pluto-Uranus Grand Air Trine and immediately answered with "depression" from that stagnant malefic energy and decided that Venus or maybe Jupiter should also be thrown in there. That might just lead to manic depression though...

Is a minor grand trine with 2 fire planets and 1 air planet more firey or airy? There are 2 air aspects and 1 fire aspect.

Can I count the grand trines individually? I notice them individually I think. I think it's cool that the midpoint of Saturn trine Pluto is a singleton (conjunction) Uranus.

I've heard lots of different things about the Grand Cross. Does Cardinal Grand Cross really come with creativity as that page says? A lot of people consider a Grand Cross bad and a Grand Trine good. I almost want to consider a straight-up Grand Trine bad...

"Alternate, short interpretations: Mars sextile Pluto or Mars trine Pluto: *You dream up creative solutions to problems and take an imaginative, unusual approach to getting a job done. When difficulties arise you prefer to avoid conflict and confrontation in favor of more peaceful or subtle methods of resolving problems. Working to help others or for a cause that transcends your own narrow, personal interests is satisfying for you. You have an artistic flair and appreciate the colorful, unique, or strange." True?

Last edited by Rebel Uranian; 09-30-2011 at 01:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 10-01-2011, 10:45 AM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,695
Re: Malefic Envelope

Rebel,
Quote:
Can I count the grand trines individually? I notice them individually I think. I think it's cool that the midpoint of Saturn trine Pluto is a singleton (conjunction) Uranus.

I've heard lots of different things about the Grand Cross. Does Cardinal Grand Cross really come with creativity as that page says? A lot of people consider a Grand Cross bad and a Grand Trine good. I almost want to consider a straight-up Grand Trine bad...
there are NO grand trines in your chart, the smaller trines are called talent triangles.

Grand Cross's cause lots of tensions and problems. I have similar that involves my Asc, so technically it's not a grand cross, BUT when anything crosses my Asc it creates a temporary Grand Cross at those times...

I have a saying for Grand Squares, "whatever will go wrong usually does!" it's like pitting yourself against the world or feeling like you are always fighting a losing battle. does this resonate?

Grand Trines are good, but can cause laziness, unless there is an oppositionn or square coming out from one planet involved...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 10-01-2011, 11:45 PM
Rebel Uranian's Avatar
Rebel Uranian Rebel Uranian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: My natural habitat
Posts: 2,090
Re: Malefic Envelope

I know, I was just shortening minor grand trine/talent triangle to grand trine because a minor grand trine is a grand trine, just not a regular (major?) grand trine.

I don't feel like I'm always fighting a losing battle, I feel like I'm hiding somewhere deep inside myself and wriggling under the microscope, lying dormant and waiting to come out, trying to get to a place where I can fight rather than having people/irritating adults trying to protect me all the time. All the adults who unfortunately have power over me on some low, superficial level think it's their job to make sure I don't "have" to fight _any_ battles, winning or losing, and this is what drives me to literal insanity, and why I want freedom so badly.

Last edited by Rebel Uranian; 10-01-2011 at 11:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 10-02-2011, 08:31 AM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,695
Re: Malefic Envelope

with all due respect you are ONLY 15years old, you will recognise these things when you venture out into society.... You are becoming very hormonal and will be probably til around 19 ish. so be patient with yourself and parents and I'm sure they only want the best for you..
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 10-02-2011, 02:42 PM
Rebel Uranian's Avatar
Rebel Uranian Rebel Uranian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: My natural habitat
Posts: 2,090
Re: Malefic Envelope

Of course they only want the best for me, the problem is that they make a heck of a lot of mistakes and I try to tell them and they don't listen. I'd give you their charts (and my brother's too) so we could try to fix this but I don't know their locations of birth. I think it was somewhere in Oklahoma for my mom and I think my dad was somewhere in New York, but that's a pretty big area for both...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
envelope, malefic

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Calling all Vedic astrologers..... freedomlover Vedic Astrology 38 12-13-2011 12:14 PM
House ruler is a malefic RuledbySaturn Read My Chart 6 08-06-2009 06:24 PM
Malefic Planets holly Dignities & debilities 1 05-07-2008 05:08 AM
Did she steal the envelope Summery Joy Horary Questions on Lost items and missing people 11 04-19-2008 02:06 PM
Planets in my chart 0WinN0 Aspects & configurations 10 03-17-2007 02:26 AM



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005-2018, AstrologyWeekly.com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly.com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.