2012 is Coming and Any Real Astrologer Can Admit This.

Who here agrees that this event, taking place December 21st 2012, is not only a breaking point, but the last time this earth will probably be inhabitable. Do you know that around May 2011, there will be an abundance of planets in Aries! A Fire sign, opposing Saturn in Libra. Makes me think about stable love affairs, coupled with the sense of the end. It's going to be INTENSELY hot this summer. Make no mistake. Eventually our world will be put to rest, but I'm here to warn you, and any real astrologer would, 2012 is the end of us. If anyone would agree, please come forth with your findings as well.


I have Moon exactly conjunct Neptune, with pluto now conjunct. I also have a Libra rising with Venus in Gemini conjunct Mercury in Gemini. Gemini rules my 9th house, and so I'm very fortune to have these two planets. I have stelliums in the 9th house and the 10th house. I have asteroid Athene exactly conjunct my Ascendant. I also have asteroid Hera hard aspecting my Moon/Neptune conjunction to the exact degree. Did I mention I have Sun trine Pluto, to the degree, and Sun conjunct my MC? I have asteroid Psyche conjunct Pluto in my first house. I was born on an exact full moon. Ahhh the list goes on on.


So tell me, do you know about 2012? Perhaps more than that? let's chat?

Well, for all we know, it probably already is the year 2012...

But that date was the end of the Mayan Calendar, and they were incredibly accurate in measuring time with the precession of the equinoxes. But since time is also cyclical, that date is not only an ending, but a new beginning.

I wouldn't be so concerned with the date, as I would with buckling up for the ride up until that date. I for one, am praying for a righteous kingdom to come..

Call me a fool but I don't go for it. I think this is nothing more than another Y2K scare. People sell books and movies on this stuff and what will they say when it comes and goes with out anything major happening?

There is going to be an alignment I just think that it ushers in a new era of possiblities.

Today the Moon is Full in Virgo and the Sun is fixing to enter into Aries and conjuncting Uranus. I expect something to happen major here in a few days but as always... life goes on.

Sun conj Uranus in Aries? Explosives, war... Libya? Possible because it looks to me like it's happening now.
V/r LionKing

Okay, I cringe when I hear Y2k when I'm talking about 2012. The differences are paramount. The Mayans precisely noted every eclipse on their calender, among many other things. The reason the Mayans knew about 2012, is because they were extremely spiritually advanced. Much like most ancient civilizations, they were more spiritual than most people are today. I mean to say, more people like to rely solely on science. But this system is flawed, because not only is this science man made, but we are basing answers off concepts that we have invented ourselves. What I mean is that when people are spiritual, they are that way because they receive information from the cosmos more easily than people who are not. And so the truth about the universe, is clearly seen in people who are well versed in astrology AND spirituality, like myself. The truth about our world is very clearly written in the stars, and yes people, there is indeed a creator. This Creator made the universe work is such a clear and precise way, that we are given life. Now I'm not saying this Creator is a being, but whatever it is, must be intelligent, as every single planet in our solar system is intelligent, giving perfect life to us here on earth. Everything is perfectly balanced.


Back to 2012, the event taking place on December 21st, is the Galactic Alignment. For those of you unaware of this, I would advise to become informed about eclipses first, and then start to get into this event. Once you understand eclipses and their extremely important role in astrology, you will understand why 2012 is so important. We have eclipses every year, but this eclipse, is the eclipse of our age. The Milky Way Galaxy will align exactly with our Sun. Eclipses end things, and yes they do bring about new beginnings, but 2012 is different. This eclipse is not playing nice. Nasa has already confirmed a Pole Shift, 6 Solar Flares were reported this year alone, while 6 solar flares in the course of hundreds of years was previously the norm. The Sun rose 2 days early for the first time in history in Greenland. This means our magnetic poles are shifting. Edgar Cayce, the brilliant clairvoyant with a multitude of cosmic information stated a pole shift would devastate our Earth, and that Japan would go under the sea. He said that we would be warned, yet people still cannot see.


Listen, When the Galactic Alignment happens, it is an extremely rare event, happening only once every 26,000 years. It means, astrologically it is the end of an age. It is the end, and the only thing to bring about such a big ending, is devastation. It's like a natural course of things, we are living in a very important time in history. The Pole Shift will be caused directly by the black hole centered in our milky way galaxy. This will be activated, and all of this energy is going to reek havoc on our planet. The Sun is going out of control, and it's reaching it's breaking point by late 2012. Nasa has already confirmed this as well. When the solar flares begin to hit our earth, it's going to cause massive black outs all over the globe. We are not going to be able to function properly, and people are going to start going crazy. I know for a fact, that by 2014, at least 2/3 of the worlds population will be wiped out.


Let me share something more. The smartest most intelligent people in the world are aware of 2012. The Illuminati are completely aware of 2012 as well. The reason they know is because they carry secret ancient knowledge, and astrology is a very big part of it. They are not going to warn the public, because it doesn't help them. I know that inevitably, we cannot escape what is to come. Our world is in trouble people, this is not a joke. So I would advise you start to be grateful for your life today, and live the rest of what we have to the best of your ability. I can only hope that I'm wrong, but I know deep inside of my heart, that this is not the case.

The alignment signifies an end of an age, however it is also the beginning of a new one..

My personal opinion is that the world as we know it now will be over- as in the mindset and it will be detrimental for those who refuse to change.. that might be why there are many predictions for so many people dying- like your opinion that "by 2014, at least 2/3 of the worlds population will be wiped out."

Even if that is the case, not everyone would be dead... so there is obviously a future for mankind rather then this supposed inescapable death.

2/3 is just a hopeful estimate.

Its good that you're hopeful.

Athene, I just did the chart for this date--2012, using midnight and Greenwich, England. I don't see the big apocalypse in it. Did I miss something?

It has some stressors but nothing pointing definitely to the end of the world so far as I can tell. Interestingly, it shows several planets at 8 degrees of their signs.

BTW, you might want to read astrologers' codes of ethics, published by several major astrological associations.

Thankfully, I don't think the world ends every December 31st just because my calendar is finished.

Actually, in the chart for December 21st 2012, Saturn and Pluto are in exact mutual reception. The end of the world isn't going to be 'seen' in the chart for that day. However, I will say that Pluto and Uranus are now squaring each other and this will continue for a long time. This is going to be playing a major role. But the important thing to stress here, is that the Galactic Alignment cannot be seen in an astrological chart, and this is the most important reason December 21st 2012 is a very important day. Also, this Uranus/Pluto square is what triggered Japan's earthquake, and so it's the first event of many to come.

Where are you getting this 'my calendar ends in December every year'? This makes absolutely no sense and has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

And to give you some idea about this, when a normal solar eclipse happens, it affects are noticed a few months before and after. The Galactic Alignment eclipse affects however, are being seen already.

Seeing how important this event is, goes back to having cosmic information. When the Mayans ended their calendar in 2012, they did it because of this event. They knew that life cycles correspond to the cycles of the universe. They were able to map these events using mathematics and spirituality. When they calculated the next time the milky way galaxy would be aligned with the Sun, they knew it would be an end of an age. The last time the Galactic Alignment happened, was when the Ice Age was set off. Hopefully, this gives you some more insight.

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Call me a fool but I don't go for it. I think this is nothing more than another Y2K scare. People sell books and movies on this stuff and what will they say when it comes and goes with out anything major happening?

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And Athenegoddess, great response, thanks for your input. Crackberry, also great insight looking at the positive side of things. Not everyone will die. These are just the cycles of time, and of earth. Many whole civilizations were wiped out, with a few left to start all over again.

How do you explain the great technological achievements in science and architecture of the Egyptians, Mayans, Olmecs, Aztecs, and Incans? They were just as advanced as us, but some natural cataclysms wiped them out, and humanity had to start all over again.

Some day in the future, they'll be talking about "Us" like some mythical Atlantis that never existed. My only and best advice for now is to live every day as if it's your last, regardless, because tomorrow isn't promised to anybody! So spread peace and love if you can, and pray and study the Bible or other scriptures to get in tune with the Supreme Being. By the way Athenegoddess, the Creator is an actual intelligent being, but that would be another thread, maybe on another forum.

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Who here agrees that this event, taking place December 21st 2012, is not only a breaking point, but the last time this earth will probably be inhabitable. Do you know that around May 2011, there will be an abundance of planets in Aries! A Fire sign, opposing Saturn in Libra. Makes me think about stable love affairs, coupled with the sense of the end. It's going to be INTENSELY hot this summer. Make no mistake. Eventually our world will be put to rest, but I'm here to warn you, and any real astrologer would, 2012 is the end of us. If anyone would agree, please come forth with your findings as well.


I have Moon exactly conjunct Neptune, with pluto now conjunct. I also have a Libra rising with Venus in Gemini conjunct Mercury in Gemini. Gemini rules my 9th house, and so I'm very fortune to have these two planets. I have stelliums in the 9th house and the 10th house. I have asteroid Athene exactly conjunct my Ascendant. I also have asteroid Hera hard aspecting my Moon/Neptune conjunction to the exact degree. Did I mention I have Sun trine Pluto, to the degree, and Sun conjunct my MC? I have asteroid Psyche conjunct Pluto in my first house. I was born on an exact full moon. Ahhh the list goes on on.


So tell me, do you know about 2012? Perhaps more than that? let's chat?

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we talked about this on other threads

LionKing said:

Call me a fool but I don't go for it. I think this is nothing more than another Y2K scare.
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V/r LionKing

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i am with you on this .. I was laughing when Y2K was going on... it was hysterical.

i already know what i will be doing dec 21 2012!



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I get frustrated too when people cannot understand the significance of 2012, and the amount of people who don't understand is very, very large. Army's of people don't know and cannot comprehend, but that's okay. We can only educate so few, and only a few can truly understand. But what I don't understand is when an astrologer cannot see the significance.

I can confirm the next drastic event will start in May. The heat will devastate some people. It's going to be insanely hot this summer. So hot it will cause deaths.

Actually not, Athene. There were four or five major Ice Ages (glacial ages) in the earth's past, plus a few minor ones. We are still pulling out of the last one, the Pleistocene. So which Ice Age do you mean? And what date to you give its commencement? Note that they don't happen overnight, but take many years to build up.

Actually I got the idea about the calendar ending on Dec. 31 from a member named Olivia. She pointed out, rightly, that simply because my wall calendar doesn't show dates past December 31 of a given year, that doesn't mean the world ends. It means the calendar ends.

Saturn and Pluto go through orbital cycles relative to one another. At different points over time, they have been in mutual reception with one another. So far the world hasn't ended.

And then what is the explanation in scientific terms as to why the world should end in 2012? Astronomers and geophysicists have all kinds of explanations for the genesis of planets and their demise. Biologists and paleontologists can explain the beginning and end of species. Sunspots and solar flares come and go over time. If the world is going to end, what processes will occur? Referring to the Galactic Alignment means....what? And why should it be fatal to human life? How will the process work?

The Maya are a handy culture for people today who are predisposed to believe in the apocalypse. Much of their civilization civilization disappeared prior to European settlement and Latin America's westernization, and the Spanish destroyed most of their writings so we can project anything we like onto their little-known beliefs. If archaeologists who are specialists in this area are still trying to understand Mayan thought, it makes little sense to me that somehow a bunch of amateurs have figured it out.

There does seem to be evidence that the Mayans practiced human sacrifice. Clearly parts of their culture would not be worthy of admiration today.

There is simply no evidence that the Uranus-Pluto square triggered Japan's earthquake. For one thing, the orb is too wide. For another, this square occurs all over the world, not just Japan.

Fraankly, the only "insight" I get is that noone can predict today with any certainty when the world will end.

Waybread, look at Japan's natal chart to understand why Japan was affected. And for the record, the square isn't over yet! There are aftershocks still occurring there!

And no, Uranus-Pluto didn't trigger the quake, Saturn, Jupiter and the Moon were all in aspect to each other creating the conditions ripe for a quake.

Athenegoddess looks like she may be one of the few intelligent people left on the planet after the coming cataclyms are done. And yes, this will probably be the hottest year on record, again, mark my words. It was 78 degrees in NYC yesterday, and it's still winter.

Did you know over 40, 000 people died during the heatwave of 2003 in Europe? Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave

athenegoddess said:

I get frustrated too when people cannot understand the significance of 2012, and the amount of people who don't understand is very, very large. Army's of people don't know and cannot comprehend, but that's okay. We can only educate so few, and only a few can truly understand. But what I don't understand is when an astrologer cannot see the significance.

I can confirm the next drastic event will start in May. The heat will devastate some people. It's going to be insanely hot this summer. So hot it will cause deaths.

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Surely you are aware of past heat waves that have killed people. So a heat wave in and of itself is not evidence of the end of the world. Global warming is a concern and more record high temperatures are occuring in recent decades in North America than in the past.

We also have to recognize the human/cultural component to natural disasters. Iraq, for example, routinely gets temperatures up to 120F (about 50C). But people in that country have learned to cope. They stay indoors when it is hot. Their houses have thick walls. their traditional clothing is designed to shield them from the sun. Americans and Europeans who swelter are oftentimes the poor who cannot afford air conditioning; but with a reasonable public health plan in place, no one need die, even with Iraq-level summer heat.

Maybe I am old enough and have studied enough history to know that each generation has its apocalypse scare. The early Christians thought their world was about to end. In the 1950s during the Cold War Americans built bomb shelters against an impending Soviet-caused nuclear war. Medieval Europeans thought their world was ending during the Bubonic Plague.

Let's all take a deep breath and count to 10. Might get some more oxygen to our brains.

No doubt the world will end at some point.

divine g, howbeit you post Japan's chart and explain how it shows the inevitability of the earthquake. Then let's talk.

The earthquake happened when Uranus entered Aries. If this is not what set off the earthquake, why don't you provide an astrological explanation? And, you ask for proof that the Uranus/Pluto square is responsible, not to sound rude, but are you aware of the energies of these planets? Capricorn is business and Japan is one of the largest economies in the world. Can you say hello to more economic problems?


Also, if you read what I wrote previously, most of the questions you are asking have already been answered. I said the Japan earthquake was the first event of many.


I also stated that the Galactic Alignment cannot be seen in a birth chart. You mention that Pluto and Saturn have been in mutual reception before, well can you provide me with the date? And also, are you aware that mutual reception between Pluto and Saturn is an extremely rare occurrence? If you don't agree, prove me wrong. Also, When is the last time Pluto and Saturn were in mutual reception during a Galactic Alignment?

All that needs to be noted, is that the ice age occurred 26,000 years ago, and this was the last time the Galactic Alignment happened. Yes, it took time, like I previously mentioned. But you have to keep in mind that every summer since 1998 has been hotter than the last. There is a scientist who lives in my building who told me about the six solar flares that happened this year, if you know anything about that, you will know that this is highly and incredibly unusual. Six solar flares have not even happened over the course of hundreds of years!


Science even confirms a pole shift is under way. What else proof do you need?


Do you guy's know about the massive planet or asteroid Nibiru that is currently headed towards earth? If you try to look up the coordinates on Google Earth, you will see that it is blacked out. The elite DO NOT want us knowing about this.


The Sumerians are the one's who invented astrology. They are associated with Nibiru. I can pour out so much information to you guy's. Just ask and I will tell.

And anyone who wants to call themselves an astrologer must first learn about the Sumerians.


You can try to play devils advocate all you want, but there is only one truth in this world. All of your counter arguments are not strong enough to disprove my arguments because the fact of the matter is, science confirms it. You are just showing a deeply ill-informed disposition.

A-Goddess, have you heard that Nibiru is actually a ship?

And also, Waybread, Japan's natal chart shows its sun sign as Aquarius, meaning the island and nation itself is ruled by Uranus. Why dont you read the Japan threads and learn more about it before you speak about it?

By ship do you mean something carrying people? If so, yes.