Younger Brother and Wife's Harassing Tactics

Tham

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I live with my younger brother and his wife in the same house,
which had been left to us in both our names by our late mum.

The two of them do not like my presence there, and
has been trying to oust me out of the house. They know
that they can't do it by legal means, since I am joint owner
of the property.


The two of them has thus been resorting to harassing
tactics to achieve their evil aims. This includes locking
the kitchen door and hiding the keys, thus depriving me
of food, and teaching their younger four-year old son to
come into my room and repeatedly shout at me to "Get Out !".


One of my blind friends, who has some psychic abilities,
says that he can see that there will be retribution for him
for his bad treatment of me. He says he can "see" his wife
divorcing him later, and both his sons abandoning him
in old age.

I was wondering if vedic astrology, which has superb
predictive abilities, might be able to confirm this.


My brother's data -

Name - Tham Wai Kin
Born on 1 September 1964, at 4.37 pm in
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.


His wife - Michelle Lee Chooi Peng
Born on 13 March 1974, at 12.35 pm in
Gopeng, Malaysia.


Thank you very much .
 

Tham

Well-known member
I was looking for a Vedic reading, not a lesson on Karma.

Yes, everyone knows about Karma, which is basically
the same as the commonsense concept of "What goes
around, comes around".

In many cases, however, it does not necessarily come around.
Many evil people live out normal lives, and nobody of course
knows what will happen in their next lives, or that of their
future generations. Karma is just a belief or faith.

I used to have a friend who could predict very accurately
with Vedic what would happen in that person's final few
years, but I do not keep in touch with him anymore.

I know Indian astrology has that power, it is whether
the practitioner has that experience and expertise.

That was why I asked this query here, though not with
much optimism of finding one who can do such a reading.

As for negotiating with these kind of people, you don't
seem to understand. From my post, I am sure you can
tell already that these people are not merely "unreasonable"
- they are evil and malicious, and will stop at nothing
to achieve their ways. It's a waste of time talking to them.

Short of sending them a lawyer's letter, court restraining
order or filing a lawsuit for harassment and duress, nothing
will stop them. (Except maybe one of my Indonesian friends,
a "bomoh", who practises voodoo for a living and had actually
wanted to perform death curses on the two of them some
time ago.)

I have analyzed my brother's Western natal chart. It is
not very much different from that of Hitler's.

One other thing I am certain. His elder son will dump him
for sure in old age. The local Malays here tell me that, in
their community, when a parent abuses one child and shows
favouritism to another, the latter child will almost always
abandon them in old age. It is the abused one who will, or
might, take care of them.

Basically a form of Karma, if you see it that way.
 

ptlokesh

Member
It is confirm all the evil sins that you do in this birth you have to pay form them.
What your bother and his wife are doing to you the same thing they will face from there son. As they are doing it in front of him and also teaching him the same.
The Karma of an individual decide their fate.
 

Tham

Well-known member
Thanks, Ptlokesh.

Yes, some people have also told me that they will face the same
thing from their son or sons, sooner or later in old age.

When you teach your own blood to hate your own blood, ultimately,
your sons will treat you the same way one day, when you grow old.
 

Still thinking

Well-known member
I also want to give some insight on charts even though i am not an expert.

your brother's horoscope have Venus,moon,mars and rahu in 6th house. 4 planets in 6th house may give this person quarrelsome nature.He creates enemies.Afflicted mars in 6th also give him violent temperament.He is in enmity with kids,life partner and family members.His violent actions may them in danger.

Both husband and wife are sensitive.Things easily hurt them which encourage them to take revenge.They live in dream world.less practical.

Wife have jupiter and sun in 10th house and moon also aspected by jupiter.To my doubt wife is not equally participating in wrong deeds of husband.

From 2014 sept wife will enter major period of ketu.From this period desire of money may increase to very high extent.Her such a strong desire is likely to put husband in trouble.

In case of brother horoscope.To my doubt kids are nice by nature but still relation may be disturbing.
 

Tham

Well-known member
I also want to give some insight on charts even though i am not an expert.

Your brother's horoscope have Venus, Moon, Mars and Rahu in
6th house. 4 planets in 6th house may give this person quarrelsome
nature. He creates enemies. Afflicted Mars in 6th also give him violent temperament. He is in enmity with kids, life partner and family members. His violent actions may (put) them in danger.


Thank you very much for your very accurate reading. You are
more expert than you think.

You are very correct. He has a horrible temper, shouts (hollers !)
at the top of his voice at his kids (and me too) not unlike Hitler
shouting at concentration camp inmates.

He had been abusing the second son, almost three years ago from
the end of 2009 to the middle of 2010, when the little boy was just
two years old.

The abuse became lesser only after I did some prayers for the
little boy.

in total contrast, he has been showing extreme favouritism to
the elder son, now 7, since birth, though he even beats this
boy every now and then.



Both husband and wife are sensitive. Things easily hurt them
which encourage them to take revenge.They live in dream world,
less practical.

Correct again. Yes, that is exactly how they are.


Wife have Jupiter and Sun in 10th house and Moon also aspected by Jupiter. To my doubt wife is not equally participating in wrong deeds of husband.

Yes, my blind friend also said that the wife is the one who is
"poking fire", i.e. instigating and instructing the husband to do
all these bad things against me.


From 2014 Sept wife will enter major period of Ketu. From this
period desire of money may increase to very high extent. Her
such a strong desire is likely to put husband in trouble.

Yes, a member in the Astro.com's vedic forum also said that
my blind friend is correct, and trouble for them shall start from
January 2015.
 

Still thinking

Well-known member
It is my view not experience that Psychic powers predicts well than Astrologers.

I think somewhere i have not expressed myself clearly in terms of wife.I may be not so right but still i want to say that may be wife is nice person.I want to say that she is not invloved.

actually i am here bit confused here becase her afflicted 2nd house indicates she extremely greedy and may play trciks to earn money.But her source of income may not be by cheap methods.

Actually her planets are similar to late famous astrologer who was highly qualified scholor and well versed in many sorts of religious activities and transled old astrology books.

She is Taurus Rising.

similarities are 1. Taurus Rising
2.saturn in 2nd house
3.jupiter,sun and mercury in 10th house.

According to my knowledge she should be highly qualified and always eager to acquire more and more knowledge.people may give imporance to her words and may expect guidance from her.

Known for outstanding performance.
 

Tham

Well-known member
Thanks for the reply, Still Thinking.

Yes, my blind friend had also told me earlier that the wife is
an extremely materialistic and "money eyes' woman. That is
why he said she will divorce my brother for a richer man later.

I was a bit surprised to hear that, as all these years I lived with
her in the same house, she did not seem very materialistic to me.

She is not very well qualified, probably just high school or maybe
business diploma, and she works as a middle-level administration
staff in this freight forwarding agency at the airport.

http://www.forwardfreight.com.my/


My blind friend, as well as the Indonesian friend (the "bomoh" or medium)
and several other friends all said they are sure she is the one behind my
brother pressuring me to leave. In other words, they say she is the
instigator and troublemaker. My blind friend told me she is very evil.

My blind friend is correct - she was the one who instructed the son
(I heard her telling him very loudly, even thru my closed door) to
come into my room and say "Get Out !". When I shuttered my door
to prevent the little boy coming in, I again heard her say very loudly -
"Take your toy gun and shoot at his door 20 times !".

She told him to come to the front gate and shout "GET OUT !" too,
when I am sometimes outside doing some work in the garden or garage.

Extremely brainless, pathetic, immature, childish and idiotic thing to do,
don't you think ? ( She is Chinese educated, like my younger brother.)
And to make use of your innocent child this way to do something bad,
which he can't even understand, is tantamount to child abuse.

It is clear that she is out to grab the property for herself.

This is not surprising in Chinese households in Malaysia - the
woman-in-law is well known to be a materialistic troublemaker,
causing havoc in the family into whom she marries. She will always
influence the husband (i.e. my brother) to go against the rest of his
family, including his parents. The husband will ALWAYS listen to her
and not his parents and his sibilings.

Another thing. I have been told many times that it is not uncommon
for the woman-in-law to resort to spiritual methods, black magic or
other forms of occult to make the husband listen to her. This is in
fact very easy for her, since she has full access to his food and can
put anything she wants into it.

http://themalaysianlife.blogspot.com/2010/01/menstrual-blood-vegetable-nasi-kang.html

http://forum.mamakonline.com/index.php?showtopic=46008
 
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Still thinking

Well-known member
Also to my knowledge she is perfect in her task. If her intention is not good then it is almost difficult to catch her red handed because task performed by her are perfectly planned.

Her planets are such that her success rate are high.
 

Tham

Well-known member
Yes, my blind friend says she is very cunning.

In fact, they say that this is a typical trait of women. I have
been told that a woman can behave like an angel in front of
you and act as if she is your very good friend, but behind
your back, you won't even know that she is out to kill you, and
has in fact "stabbed" your back countless times.

The Chinese have an ancient proverb -

" A Woman's Heart Is Like A Pin Deep Down On The Ocean Floor "



Try catching a woman red handed.
 

Tham

Well-known member
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Your brother's horoscope have Venus, Moon, Mars and Rahu in 6th house. 4 planets in 6th house may give this person quarrelsome nature. He creates enemies. Afflicted mars in 6th also give him violent temperament. He is in enmity with kids, life partner and family members.
His violent actions may (put) them in danger.

In case of brother horoscope. To my doubt kids are nice by nature but still relation may be disturbing.



You are right again. He told me recently that he has placed an advertisement
in the newspapers, as well as announced to his friends all over the internet,
that he does not recognize me anymore as his brother.

He said he has also instructed his two sons not to recognize me as their uncle,
as well as announced this in the media and internet.

Have you ever come across anyone as pathetic, stupid and childish in your life ?

Would you ever think of doing, let alone do, something as silly like this to
your own siblings ?

What is the purpose, and what is the point, you tell me ? Common sense
will tell you that you are only harming yourself in the end.

In other words, coming back to what I reasoned earlier, philosophically.
When you teach your own blood to hate your own blood, one day, particulary
in old age, your own children will treat you the same way. It all comes back
to you in a circle, whether you may call it Karma or otherwise.

You can't force someone to love or hate another person. It all comes from
their own heart, and this is particularly true in the case of children.

You can see in the attachments what the elder son, 7 now, thinks of me,
despite what the hatred the father had tried to instil in his young brain
against me.

He had left these handwritten notes and paper cuttings on my bed one day,
when I was not around. The first was after he had overheard his father
quarreling with me, and threatening to throw me out of the house, several
months ago. The second was the night before he was due to leave with
his parents for a holiday trip to Hongkong, not too long after.

"Papak" means uncle, father's elder brother, in Cantonese.
His name is "Pan Pan",

The heart, flower, Sun and star are now on my office table.
 

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Still thinking

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Actually your brother have number of planets in 6th house.due to that most of the time he may not appreciate others work or help.

His 3rd lord is placed in 5th house.If you are only brother then you have good impact on his kids.It is not possible to tell whether you will have impact on all his kids.
 

Tham

Well-known member
This younger brother does not respect me at all - in fact,
it is quite clear that he despises me. My Indonesian bomoh
friend said in fact that he thinks of me like some stray dog.

I have an elder brother whom he respects very much, however.

This elder brother does not live with me, and has never bought
a single toy for his kids. He has never showed any concern
for his kids, and in fact does not want to do so, as he knows
my younger brother's character.

Almost all the time, ever since they were born, I am the one
who has bought most of the toys for them.

As you say, he does not have a conscience, and has totally
no sense of appreciation.

In his chart, can you tell if he has mental problems ?

My take is, from analyzing him psychologically, he has multilple
personality disorders. He seems to have the following disorders,
overlapping each other :

1. Schizotypal personality disorder
2. Paranoid personality disorder
3. Narcissistic personality disorder


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/personality-disorders/DS00562/DSECTION=symptoms

http://tami-port.suite101.com/personality-disorders-a29442
 

Still thinking

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Moon and Rahu is often consider bad for mental stability.

In your brother's horo Rahu,moon and two other planets are placed in a sign of mercury. Mercury controls nervous system.

I don't to what extent but indications are there.
 

Tham

Well-known member
Yes, he has been pasting "Notices" and "Orders" on the front
of my door, like the SS or Gestapo in a concentration camp.


Incidentally, I have been having a fairly high fever of 102, then 100,
now back to 102 again, since last Saturday. For a moment I thought
I might have this mosquito-spread dengue fever, but they say that this is
probably just a bad flu, which sometimes lasts as long as 3 or 4 weeks.

Also have body and rib aches, cough for nearly a month, and chills.

Might you see it in my chart, and if I might be recovering soon ?


Here's my data -

Born 13 April 1958, 9.40 am, Seremban, Malaysia.

Thank you again.
 

Still thinking

Well-known member
Currently you are major period of Saturn.Saturn is placed in 8th house.Rasi depositor in 6th house and nakshtra depositor placed in 12th house.

sub-period running is of moon.sub-sub running is of venus(rules ur 6th house).

After the sub period of moon period of mars,rahu and jupiter will be running.major period already not well placed for good health.

I am not sure whether u will be recovering soon coz from dec 2011 saturn enters your 6th house.Saturn often prolong the illness.But this saturn is exalted so there may be less trouble until rahu enters your 6th house in 2014.

from 2013 you r going to enter period of rahu and then period of jupiter whch in your horo are indicative of bad health.

It will be better if you conform from your psychic friend coz sometimes vimshottari don't work like we expect but some another dasha work.
 

Tham

Well-known member
Moon and Rahu is often consider bad for mental stability.

In your brother's horo Rahu,moon and two other planets are placed in a sign of mercury. Mercury controls nervous system.

I don't to what extent but indications are there.


Yes, Mercury rules the brain and mind.
 
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