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Astrologer:Analysis for Planetary influences required

Dear Members,

Wish to analyze few charts of well reputed astrologers to understand the Planetary influences required to become "Astrologer".

We can start with the following time of a very reputed astrologer of India. He was grandfather of Mr. B. V. Raman.

The information was obtained from the magazine " The Modern astrology" published by Ms. Gayatri Devi Basudeva.

Mr. Bangalore Suryanarain Rao
12 Feb 1856 12.15 hrs IST
Lat 18 N Long 84 E
LMT 12.21 hrs


All are welcome in the discussion including influences which may be noticed under western perspective.


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Natal chart & Navamsa Chart attached.

DASA, CONSTELLATION DETAILS ATTACHED
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2nd house is primary house for Astrology and 5th & 9th house supports it.
Similarly Mercury is primary karka for learning Astrology and Jupiter, Venus supports it. Similarly, airy signs signifies higher mind (religious, philosophy etc). Thus, a strong mercury & 2nd house & predominant airy sign should make a good astrologer. If it is strongly associated with 9th & 10th houses/lords then native can be astrologer by profession. Similarly, 5, 8 & 12 houses/lords may assist in creative intelligence, research and intuition.

In case of Late Sh B. S Rao case, Mercury & Saturn are very strong due to exchange yoga in 2nd & 10th houses. The 5th & 9th houses having same lords are also involved in this yoga.

Jupiter & Sun in 10th house also assist him in his profession. 8th & 12th houses are also involved to lesser degree thus making him a very successful & great astrologer.

Thanks for posting this chart as analyzing it also helped me understand why I myself interested in astrology
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Thank you for analysis. We may get more clue if we analyse this one.

Timing for one more reputed astrologer ( source " The Modern Astrology")


Mr. B.V. Raman 8 Aug 1912 , 7.35 pm IST, 12n 59 & 77e 35 ( Should be Bangalore)



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Vedic Chart for Mr. Raman ( astro.com)

DASA & CONSTELLATIONS ETC ARE ALSO GIVEN IN ANOTHER CHART
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Most of the clues in previous post are found here as well.

2nd lord in 10th house aspected by 10th lord where 10th lord is associated with 5 & 9th lord in 7th house in fiery sign. Fiery sign also signifies mind (although more physical level). Mercury is vargotama and also retrograde thus strong. 8th & 12th houses are also influencing 10th house.

So, strong Mercury, 2nd house and it's association with 10th house & other good yogas in horoscope shows promise in studying astrology.
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Jupiter is in 10th house in both cases.

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In both the charts, 2nd lord and 10th lord are in a relationship.

B S Rao: 2nd & 10th exchanged houses mutually.

B V Raman; 2 L & 10 L are in 3rd relationship, where first planet aspects the other and that other is in house of the first planet and are not aspecting first planet.

Here, 10th lord Mars aspecting Jupiter ( 2nd Lord), who is sitting in house of Mars. Jupiter is not aspecting Mars.
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In both the cases, 2nd house is strong (2nd house gives predictive ability).:

B S Rao: Friend Saturn is in 2nd house Gemini. Venus & Jupiter aspecting
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B.V. Raman: Jupiter aspecting 2nd house ( own house). Mars ( 10 L) aspecting friend's house. Rahu in Pisces giving effect as Jupiter, being Shadowy planet.
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2nd house is primary house for Astrology and 5th & 9th house supports it.
Similarly Mercury is primary karka for learning Astrology and Jupiter, Venus supports it. Similarly, airy signs signifies higher mind (religious, philosophy etc). Thus, a strong mercury & 2nd house & predominant airy sign should make a good astrologer. If it is strongly associated with 9th & 10th houses/lords then native can be astrologer by profession. Similarly, 5, 8 & 12 houses/lords may assist in creative intelligence, research and intuition.

In case of Late Sh B. S Rao case, Mercury & Saturn are very strong due to exchange yoga in 2nd & 10th houses. The 5th & 9th houses having same lords are also involved in this yoga.

Jupiter & Sun in 10th house also assist him in his profession. 8th & 12th houses are also involved to lesser degree thus making him a very successful & great astrologer.

Thanks for posting this chart as analyzing it also helped me understand why I myself interested in astrology
Very good observation. ( Highlighted above)
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Vedic wheel charts from astro.com & navamsa chart attached ASTROLOGER DOB 31.01.1887
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It is evident again that Mercury forms rajyoga with exchange of houses 5 & 10 with Saturn thus strengthening Mercury further. The 2nd house has benefic Jupiter where as 2nd house lord is afflicted with Mars & Ketu but it should have helped him with research and intuition in field of astrology.
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It is evident again that Mercury forms rajyoga with exchange of houses 5 & 10 with Saturn thus strengthening Mercury further. The 2nd house has benefic Jupiter where as 2nd house lord is afflicted with Mars & Ketu but it should have helped him with research and intuition in field of astrology.

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Jupiter is in 2nd house aspecting 10th house & Saturn ( 5th lord in 10th).

Further, Jupiter is in relationship ( 3rd relationship) with the second lord as follows:
Where first planet (JUPITER) aspects the other (VENUS)and first planet ( JUPITER) is in house of the other planet (VENUS) and other planet (VENUS) is not aspecting first planet (JUPITER), 3rd relationship is formed.

Again as explained by RishiManagalesh as follows:

"Mercury forms Rajyoga with exchange of houses 5 & 10 with Saturn"

I am sure other influences are also there, which can be analyzed by learned members.

ALL PLANETS CAN CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS MAKING A PERSON ASTROLOGER WHEN THEY ARE INVOLVED AS OWNERS ( LORDSHIPS) OF SIGNIFICANT HOUSES. RAHU & KETU CAL ALSO CONTRIBUTE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY IN INTUITIVENESS ( KETU) & PREDICTION CAPABILITY ( RAHU).
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Just wanted to reconcile. Do you think Jupiter as main karaka for astrology?

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Just wanted to reconcile. Do you think Jupiter as main karaka for astrology?

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My recent study and research of charts show the following, though many more books are to be studied and many more charts to be analyzed yet.

Jupiter in 10th is very favourable for astrology. "Jupiter" represents "Astrologer". Others which are equally important are Mercury ( Mathematics cum astrology), Rahu suitably placed is rated high for good predictive ability, Saturn ( 10th lord of Kalpurushchakra representing Sky), Venus ( 2nd lord of Kalpurush chakra representing predictive capabiilty & speech), Sun in Adra constellation in 3rd & 4th pada can make oneself an astrologer ( Sun being 5th Lord[ intuition] in Kalpurush Chakra).
Ketu in 5th or other relevant houses is highly regarded for intuition.

Combination of important houses are also important.

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Rajashri Ji,

I would tend to favor Mercury more than Jupiter here. Because astrology is just science which comes from learning (reading, writing, listening etc) where is Jupiter represents knowledge which comes from realization/experience. Anybody with good learning capabilities can do astrology (strong mercury) but knowledge of life (Jupiter) comes from realization & with experience (Saturn). Thus, for me astrology is journey from Mercury (eyes/light/learning) to Jupiter (object/Vedas/knowledge).

Note :This is my personal view which is philosophical and not based on research.

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Rajashri Ji,

I would tend to favor Mercury more than Jupiter here. Because astrology is just science which comes from learning (reading, writing, listening etc) where is Jupiter represents knowledge which comes from realization/experience. Anybody with good learning capabilities can do astrology (strong mercury) but knowledge of life (Jupiter) comes from realization & with experience (Saturn). Thus, for me astrology is journey from Mercury (eyes/light/learning) to Jupiter (object/Vedas/knowledge).

Note :This is my personal view which is philosophical and not based on research.

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Astrology is Science & Art both.

Good observation again.
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Re: Astrologer:Analysis for Planetary influences required

Sir,
In this context I would like to give the following details of a chart-
1. The natal has elevated jupiter in 12th.
2.Mercury aspects 2nd house whose lord is mercury itself.
3.Venus is exalted.
4.10th is taurus.

He is my friend and interested in astrology. What is his prospect in astrology?
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