Galactic Center and Transiting Pluto

cara4art,

Hi and welcome, glad you're here. In the couple of months that I've been here, I've seen more natal charts with Pisces ASC than decades of doing Charts myself! Its amazing to me. Anyway I got your Natal (thanks for sharing) and our Charts have some similarities with ASC's only a couple of degrees apart and our Suns only hours away from the Summer and Winter Solstices. I too have Pluto in 6 :| but what a group you've got there! Second Saturn Return and then conjunct natal Pluto at 11 Leo and later Moon.......wow. How are you feeling physically?

My MC is 14 Sag 40' and I moved after 15 years (VERY long for me) in one place in 2004. I can also relate to what you said about reducing the physical clutter in the home (but with a full 8th house I'm famous for this naturally!) and also about "retreating" and not wanting to have much to do with all those typical 10th things. Honestly I feel that many of us now are being triggered by the transits at higher levels and because of this we must interpret slightly differently. My 'spiritual career' is what Pluto's transit is activating, not the mundane or more typical level as it sounds like yours is also.

Over the past few years I've had transiting Uranus make some fun oppositions to natal Pluto, just opposite what you're going through. Transiting Neptune is now within orb of an opposition to natal Pluto. There's no doubt in my mind or heart that the Pluto in Leo generation is and has been working off some major 'issues and karmas' over the years!!!

I too have 26-27 degrees Sagittarius (GC) in my 10th so I'm expecting this Pluto transit to activate some ancient soul level stuff in the here and now. Now thats a career change!

Anyway, glad you're with us and if you have any artwork anywhere please leave a link to it for us all to see OK? I'd really enjoy seeing some of your creative artwork.

Hello Lapis!
Here's a link to my art - I share web space with my husband, and designed the website from scratch:
http://richardshuff.com/html/cara_lee.html
Thanks for the input - interesting about you having seen alot of Pisces rising people! My intuition tells me that all the things that we Pisces-rising people often consider to be social liablities in our current culture, like being "too sensitive", having "overactive imaginations", and otherwise not being able to "fit in" with the predominant culture as it stands now, may be assets in a new culture that has yet to be born and the hallmarks of a new type of human.
My health is excellent - I have been very health-conscious for the last 32 years, since an illness at the age of 26(mononucleosis). At that time, in the altered state that constant fever brings on, the insight appeared to me that I was going to have to heal myself. That set me on the path(well before the first Saturn return, which brought disasters of its own!)of the importance of diet and exercise. I have engaged in several physical disciplines over the years, dance, bodybuilding, Ashtanga yoga, and distance-walking. Currently, I do my weight-training at home, along with some Ashtanga yoga, and I walk a 6-mile route 5 days per week. Unlike many Pisces-rising, I am not overweight at middle age, and I dislike overly-rich food, and prefer to eat small, simple meals, with a large proportion of raw produce, but inclusive of small amounts of the lighter proteins - absolutely NO red meat, and very little dairy for me. I am always refining my health habits,and enjoy doing so(that Saturn-Pluto-Moon in 6th!), so it is not a sacrifice at all for me. As a result, I look and feel far younger than age 58, and refuse to subscribe to the predominant culture's depressing beliefs about "aging" in general. No plastic surgery for me, or even high-tech skincare. Natural is the way to go, as my skin won't handle anything else.
But back to the more esoteric, and the idea of clearing out: Thirteen years ago, I went through an intense 6-month course of hypnotherapy to clear the effects of emotional abuse/mother stuff, and over the last two years, I have been seeing a shamanic energy practitioner to clear accumulated karma. I was among those in Atlantis - another post on another thread on the forum about Pluto in Leo people being reincarnated Atlanteans rang true for me, especially the part of basically being two groups, the elites who abused power, and those who are currently Starseeds, Wanderers, etc. I personally identify with the latter group, not the power-abusers. The whole power-abuse thing is a huge one, and I believe that is a big reason I don't aspire in any way to wealth and power now, as I have already seen what it does. As part of this karmic clearing, it was revealed to me that I was repeatedly a persecuted disciple of Masters who in turned were killed for their beliefs and teachings. In my present life, I follow no established religion, preferring to explore the deeper aspects of spirituality instead. I have had any number of people accuse me of not having a "prosperity consciousness" or having "money issues" because of my lack of aspiration. I prefer austerity and extreme simplicity. Anyhow, I came to the shamanic energy practitioner by way of a back injury suffered two years ago while on vacation in Hawaii, as he was reputed to be able to clear things that had not responded to traditional routes. The moment he touched my back(which actually had started to bother me when we were going through the worst of our multiple moves during 2002), he saw that it had nothing to do with this life, and everything to do with ancient stuff. So, what had begun as back treatment, and continuing therapy, has turned into a spiritual journey of great magnitude. Since I have had to go into very deep places that are not explainable to people who are not going through it, I have largely kept this process secret. So this may be one manifestation of the transits hitting us at the higher levels. Given all this, it will be very interesting to see what happens as Pluto latches onto the GC for me, especially since I have my Sun-Uranus midpoint opposite the GC!
I am so glad to find someone who understands this, as there are extremely few, if at all, in my immediate environment that are on the same wavelength. But that has been largely true for my whole life.

cara4art,

What a beautiful site and what gorgeous artwork! I'll need to spend more time there to go through all of the numerous images. I must say that many of the Mandala's got me as they should! I was automatically drawn to the collection of Buddha's for personal and past life reasons. Did you design all of those too? Just wonderful stuff all around you two.

Its good to hear that you've got your 6th house 'under control' so to speak and have done so well with Pluto and Co. living there. I haven't done such a great job (over the past 8 years) with my 6th Pluto and the transits to it from the 12th. Long multi-leveled story just like yours.

So much to say.......but I think I'll carry this particular conversation over to the Karmic Astrology forum on the 'Cosmic/Consciousness Expansions' thread I started for just these type of discussions. There's much more to share I feel and it will fit well there. To be continued.........

Hi world astrologers,
Lapis, Baker, Heli141, elianah, WB50, nuke, foshow, cara4art et al....yikes, Sita, and everyone,

So....this thread is huge...I actually got lost in here once...I posted
something to Heli141 and she found me here (I thought I was in an
asteroid....)

Hey, Lapis--you said:

I can sense that Pluto conj the GC will set up a theme that humanity will experience in an undeniable way... It should also be pointed out that not long after that stellar event, Pluto will enter Cap. I have a sense that the theme we may experience will be an 'awakening' to a much larger picture and it will be from deep within ourselves. In the short time after the Pluto/GC event, the political and structure of authority will begin to really be under serious scrutiny as Capricorn rules authority and political bodies and Pluto tends to destroy what doesn't work. These two events should really be looked at seriously, methinks. I hope I can be in the 'front row' when this interesting play begins.

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My Sagittarius rising and Vesta in 1H cj GC...is at the end of
Sagittarius and beginning of Capricon in my 1H...

thanks to Elianah for her insights into the 1House signS--

which led me to the discovery that

my 1House is 2/3 Cap
and I never knew it!

Thank everyone for articles and posts; I'm integrating as fast as I can

Lapis--the house meanings & the Barbara Hand Clow
link....wow!
And Elianah---the House modality information is great.
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Thanks Cara for Leo in Pluto / health/ energy consciousness

and for the mandalas and beautiful art on your
website.

ciao f'now
...in gratitude
C1

C1,

Yes if you've got the last few degrees of Sag Rising (I don't recall seeing your chart) lets just say 27 degrees......then you have only the last 3 or 4 degrees of Sag in that 1st house PLUS however many degrees of Capricorn in there too and they will be far more than the Sag ones. And if you've got planets in 1 but in Cap and not Sag then this adds to the Cap influence over the Sag one. This will color that 1st house greatly.

I believe it was nukeeuler that said that and not me. This has become a huge thread and it is hard to keep things straight. Like I've said before, I forget where I've posted :roll:

Yeah Clow's monthly interpretations are so good as are her 3 month long Solstice/Equniox readings. Glad you enjoyed it.

C1: We both have 1st house Caps! :shock:

This is fascinating stuff though I am quite concerned about what it'll all mean (Taurean sun - afraid of change !).

Natally I have Asc at 25 Pisces (another one ) opp moon at 28 virgo conj jupiter 26 virgo (pluto 22 and uranus 0 libra also involved) square sag mc at 28. Gulp!

Things have already started to happen - my relationship broke up just as my mother had a heart attack (she survived but 3 months later my aunt, her sister, died), I'm in between jobs, homes and quite anxious about the future. I've become a hermit since and though not scared to go out have little enthusiasm to. I have noticed this in others too, a reluctance to socialise..is this to do with venus' combustion a while back?

One thing I and a few others have been experiencing on a very regular basis is alot of synchronicities, and strange coincidences. I have always tended to look for signs so this is nothing new to me but it seems to be happening to people who previously ridiculed 'occultish' stuff. Like talking about something, and then it'll appear on the tv/radio, etc..seems to be an almost telepathic thing going on..has anyone else been experiencing this?

Guest,

Hey another Pisces ASC! Amazing. With 28 Sag on your MC, this Pluto transit the GC should be really transformational for you I'd think. It sounds like you've already been through a lot of powerful changes. I can relate to living like a hermit for the most part and needed to retreat from public life and socializing like you mentioned. I've been living like this for many years again, out of necessity. The more sensitive you become, the more painful it is to be out in society with all of the noise and negativity. I think more and more people are experiencing this too now.

I've commented before (I can't remember if it was here! :roll: ) how I've observed over the past 15 years many people (strangers) openly displaying telepathic and empathic abilities......but they were unaware they were doing it! I've been sensitive all my life so these traits are very recognizable and familiar to me. It's gotten to the point now that I have to sometimes deliberately shield my thoughts because strangers are picking up on them!!! Unheard of until only recently. What's even more wild to me however is that these people don't recognize what they've just done.

I believe that as Pluto transits across the GC this sort of thing (and much more) is going to be activated in many more people across this planet. Suddenly it won't be strange or abnormal to see and communicate with 'dead' people, be telepathic, communicate with higher dimensional beings and so on. The next couple of years are going to be extraordinary in many ways I feel.

http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/eng-home-fr.htm


I just found a link that might appeal or resonate to Galactic Center enthusiasts.


Note: On July 17, 2007, at 11:11 GMT transiting Pluto will be exactly conjunct the Galactic Center at 26SAG57


(The musical downloads are free of charge.)

Yo, AquariusMoon

There are things known and unknown...

You really figured that one out...d'accord, AquaMoon!
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I'm thinking there are no limits of resonance
reluto/GC conjunction, etc.,
with astrologers on
this forum.

Gracias, AM!

C1

C1 said:

Yo, AquariusMoon

There are things known and unknown...

You really figured that one out...d'accord, AquaMoon!
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I'm thinking there are no limits of resonance
reluto/GC conjunction, etc.,
with astrologers on
this forum.

Gracias, AM!


C1

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http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/eng-home-fr.htm


Thank you, CI! I've been fascinated with the GC since last June. Ever since then I've been wondering how Pluto cj the GC and aspecting natal planets would play out. When I found the Fire the Grid site and I read it, it made perfect sense to me to find that it's not what the GC can do for us individually, but what humanity can do with the GC! I love it! This makes so much sense to me, resonates very deeply. When I saw the date that Shelley Yates was told to hold the global meditation/prayer was a date and time that exactly conjuncts Pluto's conjunction with the GC, it absolutely blew my mind!

Shelley Yates says that the light beings told her that at that particular time, "There will be a surge of creation energy to regenerate the core of the earth," and that there will be invisible help "to energize humanity with Divine power." So I guess this is "big bang" energy, and since Pluto is retrograde at that point, the energy is going inward instead of outward. Or maybe the energy will divinely regenerate the earth back to its pristine condition at the time of creation. Whatever.

Lapis,

Thank you for introducing this topic into the forum. I have just followed the posts but not understanding them or simply not ready for them as I approach astrology from the perspective of a novice.

Kite mentioned something to me the other day on another thread in re: to the GC and I replied that I either wasnt ready for it or wasnt going to participate. Meaning, "I dunno???"

So I spent some time rereading and trying to glean the concept of the GC. Then, looked at my natal chart and I guess I will be participating???

I am blundering through this and am assuming that my GC is at 26 degree Sag in my 1st house. I still am unsure of how the GC would be interpreted in the natal chart.

Did some digging came up with a few sites that might help in understanding. I simply dont possess enough experience or knowledge to comprehend the topic, yet. Perhaps they might help others though.

http://www.saros.zynet.co.uk/galast.html

There are links for conversion tables, etc.

http://www.encosm.net/principles.htm

I really dont comprehend what this author is getting at re: other topics (makes my head hurt), and I was searching for something that I could understand. The two following paragraphs 'resonated' for me though:

When the Sagittarian Age reached its peak about 1000 years ago, during the period referred to in European history as the Middle Ages, religion grew in importance to virtually dominate the organization of civilized life. Religious philosophies continued to expand during this period and become global, but the Sagittarian era of religious influence has seen its glory and has substantially declined, although religious fervor could be expected to intensify near the end with a clash of paradigms, as the world enters into the Capricorn Age.

Already, as the world approaches the Capricorn cycle, there is a growing sense that there is only one world civilization, a global village. The new civilization that will emerge will be one in which we need to reverse some of our destructive habits and take action to protect the Earth. We need to think globally and act locally, which is a Capricorn concept. We need to be less wasteful of the Earth’s energy and resources. We need to do more with less. The Age of Capricorn will be a world that is concerned with global economy, world government, sustainable resources, ecological planning, and the restoration of natural habitats.

Now see, the part about Capricorn and acknowledgement of a global village and the world coming together as one (or at least beginning to agree to disagree for heaven's sake), working together to resolve...see, that turns me on! Doing more with less, sustainable resources...(My Virgo midheaven digs it!) Restoration of natural habitats, my Sag rising really digs that as well! Think of the possibilities! The opportunities abound for the enterprising individual(s) on a global scale!

Just as a small example in this; Saudi Arabia has about a 60 year supply of oil to provide the world based on current demand. As other countries such as China continue to develop and demand more of the supply, the demand will be even higher. If indeed, globally, the idea that we come together to better use our resources and protect our 'home', earth, then bring on the paradigms and lets get it over with! As an aside note, it wont hurt my feelings or my wallet to take power away from OPEC.

The latter part of the first paragraph concerns me a bit here, smacks of what may come. If I am correct in presuming the GC contact with Pluto and Pluto being the ruler of regeneration, rebirth, transformation, and Pluto is the catalyst for change. Birth isnt easy to begin with and rebirth as many would attest to is even harder. Maybe what we need is just that, a clash of paradigms...we need something thats for sure.

Religious philosophies continued to expand during this period and become global, but the Sagittarian era of religious influence has seen its glory and has substantially declined, although religious fervor could be expected to intensify near the end with a clash of paradigms, as the world enters into the Capricorn Age.

I gotta take a class or something... :?

Amazon

Amazon1963 - I'm not sure how to say this without sounding flakey but really we're talking more art and less science here. The GC is more of a marker for the shift of the ages ..Pisces to Aquarius we've all heard about in various prophesies and legends. A google search on 2012 and spirituality should bring up various points of view that may or not include astrological significators. The Galectic Center transit of Pluto seems to be the best significator of this shift along with the mutual reception of Neptune and Aquarius IMHO.

Here's a link on one of many sites focused on trying to make sense of the evolutionary energies in play. http://whatsuponplanetearth.com

Hmmm....

The galactic center sits at 26° Sag for everyone. No matter what Pluto generational period one was born into. I would dare say that all of humanity, since the population crash of 26,000 years ago that left homo sapiens as possibly the only representatives of the genus homo here on earth.

Sag is the master of personal belief systems, whether ideological, political, religious or mythological.

At its best, Sag can accept and support all belief systems as being correct for that person and honor those beliefs for that person while mantaining Sag's own belief system. Sag knows that each person is on a journey to personal wholeness and that truth is always dependent on what has comprised that journey up to the present moment. Sag understands that the point is not where the arrow lands (because that is the ultimate physical death) but the journey in progress toward the arrow's fall.

At its worst, Sag can be a bombastic, dogmatic energy that demands everyone should believe as the Sag believes, period. No discussion unless one wants to be labeled a heretic (or, in the case of GWB, anti-American). This Sag believes in truth as THE TRUTH, no questions asked. There is no doubt about what "is" is, it is whatever the Sag defines it to be.

Most strongly Sag people are somewhere between these two poles. Depending on what the Sag holds sacred will determine how often the Sag slides to the more negative aspect of the energy.

Returning to the galactic center: The question is whether we are looking at a black hole or a worm hole. The black hole would suck all energy down and collapse it into a singularity. The worm hole would give the possibility of transmutation and shape shifting into higher vibrational forms.

Now it is possible on the metaphysical level for the galactic center to be both a black hole and a worm hole at the same time. The black hole squeezes the energy into a singularity so the worm hole can elevate it to another dimension. Perhaps that is astrologically what the galactic center is meant to do with the Sag energy in order to clear and cleanse it so it can be elevated to a new dimension.

(Just a reminder regarding transiting orbs: I use a 5° applying and a 2° separating orb.)

With Pluto currently in orbal conjunction with the galactic center (it will be in exact conjunction starting in February 2006 and will hang out around exactitude until some time in May when Pluto stations at 26° Sag 45' on March 23 and turns Rx March 30 at at 26° Sag 45'. Pluto Rx will move into the separating phase sometime in May (I don't know the exact minutes on the GC, so I am not sure when the exact conjunction is), station at 24° Sag 5' on August 29 and will return to applying orb to the GC on September 5 at 24° Sag 5'.

Pluto will then go back into exact conjunction sometime in December 2006 and be in separating orb until Pluto stations at 28° Sag 58' on March 27, 2007 and Rx on April 1 at the same degree and enters applying orb again. Pluto stations at 26° Sag 19' on September 3 and returns to direct motion on September 8. Depending upon what minutes the GC is at will determine if Pluto makes an exact conjunction with it or not in this cycle.

Pluto makes its first forray into Capricorn on January 26, 2008. This, however, does not mean that Pluto is finished its time with the GC. On March 29, 2008 Pluto stations at 1° Cap 9' and turns Rx on April 2 at the same degree and minute. This means that once again Pluto will be in applying orb to conjunct the GC. What is different is that Pluto stations on September 3, 2008 at 28° Sag 30' and returns to direct motion at the same degree September 9. Again, depending on the minutes for the GC will determine whether or not there is a separating orb conjunction between the GC and Pluto.

Pluto will make one more applying orbal contact to the GC starting in June-July 2009 and will end contact with the GC September 9, 2009 when it goes direct at 0° Cap 40'.

So we will have about a 2.5 year period to transform and transmute the more unsavory aspects of Sag into clear energy. This transformation and transmutation has to start at the subatomic level of each person and move through each higher manifestation until the whole Earth is purified, cleansed and elevated. This will be an ongoing process for decades because the energy will wave out and not touch some until they are ready to transmute and transform.

The Pluto in Sag generation will be at the crux of the issue when their vanguard reach their Saturn return: will they transform and transmute the belief systems and mythologies of the whole of humanity or will they march rigidly into dogmatic, this is THE TRUTH and you better believe exactly how you are told or you will be excommunicated at best or killed for your beliefs at worst. How we prepare the Pluto in Sag generation will affect the path they ultimately choose. If they see those in power around them being dogmatic, unyielding plutocrats, that is what they will become. If, on the other hand, they see those in power around them transmuting and transforming energy for the highest and greatest good of all humanity, the flora and fauna of the planet, and the Earth herself, there is a greater chance of this generation doing the same thing once they themselves fully enter the societal power grid.

Simply put: our choices today will affect their choices tomorrow. Whether or not we have the willpower to affect the societal power grid today will affect the societal choices they make in the future.

Here's hoping that we all have the willpower to use the energy of Pluto conjuncting the GC for the greatest and highest good of all and give the Pluto in Sag generation a fighting chance to rise to the heights of humanity rather than receding to the dregs.

What if the Galectic Center is the Ayin Sof itself? http://cardinalpublishing.com/newks/index.html

"Before the beginning of anything there was only God. Nothing existed, not even existence. Tradition states that the Absolute, called Ayin or No-thing and Ayin Sof or The Limitless in Kabbalah, wished to behold ITSELF and so Existence was willed into being to act as a vast mirror by which God could perceive the reflection of God. This process was accomplished, it is allegorically explained, by the Absolute withdrawing ITSELF from a portion of totality, thus allowing a void to appear in which Existence could be encompassed. Into this space the Holy One projected a line of light, a symbol of will, which unfolded in a specific sequence that was to be the structure and dynamic of a series of four universes, held together by Divine will. "

What if Pluto amplifies this creative will to the point where consciousness truly does become more conscious of itself and it's unity with All That Is? Perhaps the arrow represents this divine will to See?

Thank you Kite for the link. I have been following and researching into the archived articles on that site. While the author(s) of the site are putting their perceptions and understandings into assisting the 'individual' on whatever changes are occurring within, others are assisting in perceptions in the 'bigger' picture. I promise I'm not trying to debate the topic, merely trying to understand it...

excerpt from 'whats up on planet earth', January 4, 2005 archived articles:

We are also realizing through these New higher vibrations we find ourselves in, what is really what, what we choose to believe and become comfortable with, and what has been an illusion or perhaps belief system that we had bought into. Some of this New reality is wonderfully surprising!

And again, all is being revealed through our New knowingness regarding many “false assumptions” in the spiritual arena and soon within the political, religious and virtually every other belief structure of the Old World . Yipeeeee! These higher realms have truly connected us and are really removing the veil now. We can see so much clearer. More and more we will no longer be fumbling around in the dark and using various methods to “connect” as we are always connected.

Yes, there is much going on and all at the same time. As this “destruction” and cleansing process is a necessary component in clearing the way for the New World (or rather the arrival of the New World “pushed out” what remained of the Old World ), there is also much arriving that just feels great.

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The above excerpt certainly would resonate with what I had found and also with what Elianah has stated about beliefs and Sagittarius:

At its best, Sag can accept and support all belief systems as being correct for that person and honor those beliefs for that person while mantaining Sag's own belief system. Sag knows that each person is on a journey to personal wholeness and that truth is always dependent on what has comprised that journey up to the present moment. Sag understands that the point is not where the arrow lands (because that is the ultimate physical death) but the journey in progress toward the arrow's fall.

At its worst, Sag can be a bombastic, dogmatic energy that demands everyone should believe as the Sag believes, period. No discussion unless one wants to be labeled a heretic (or, in the case of GWB, anti-American). This Sag believes in truth as THE TRUTH, no questions asked. There is no doubt about what "is" is, it is whatever the Sag defines it to be.

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Lapis further elaborates her understanding of the topic:

I can sense that Pluto conj the GC will set up a theme that humanity will experience in an undeniable way... It should also be pointed out that not long after that stellar event, Pluto will enter Cap. I have a sense that the theme we may experience will be an 'awakening' to a much larger picture and it will be from deep within ourselves. In the short time after the Pluto/GC event, the political and structure of authority will begin to really be under serious scrutiny as Capricorn rules authority and political bodies and Pluto tends to destroy what doesn't work. These two events should really be looked at seriously, methinks. I hope I can be in the 'front row' when this interesting play begins.

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Which also correllated with what I had cited and Elianah had shared. Also, it corresponds with what others are sharing on this thread re: personal changes and elevations in consciousness/awareness. My understanding isnt trying to negate anything that anyone has understood or written here, I think, therefore I am.

As for heightened consciousness, I'm already there. I am no stranger to vibrations and intuitive insights. Long ago I tossed out 'dogmas' and 'doctrines' from my inner psyche and embraced what I felt was right for me and with me along with the understanding that as individuals the joy isnt in the destination itself, its the journey.

The study of astrology, the planetary influences and transits is just another part of 'my' introspective journey into the self. If indeed, we and others are correct in evaluating the 'influences' of the GC on the individual along with the global influences and this brings about a more constructive and profound change in our views and understanding...then bring it on!

Lapis and Elianah? Do you see why I encourage both of you to write? You both have marvelous insights and perspectives into the subject matter. Each of you individually bringing to the forefront a uniqueness of approach and understanding. Thank you for this.

Amazon

Amazon,

Thanks for the continued support.

Kite,

If the Ayn Sof is the Galactic Center of the Milky Way, what about the other multitudes of galactic centers within in the Multiverse and the dimensions? I don't think the Ayn Sof would limit itself to one small, nondescript spiral galaxy within its local group. And what of when the Milky Way and Andromeda collide and combine galactic centers?

I think the Ayn Sof is the sum of all of these and beyond the sum. Ayn Sof speaks in the whispers of the cosmic microwave background radiation from beyond the Big Bang, if we are willing to listen.

And before anyone points out to me that Bush is not a Sagittarian, I know this. But what he is doing is fanning the flames of the negative use of Pluto in Sag energy (isn't it interesting that his whole administration is going to be encapsulated in Pluto in Sag energy and the next US president will come in on the heels of the first entry of Pluto in Cap?) to the hilt here as the fundamentalists of all persuasions are doing throughout the world. It is this negative use of the Pluto in Sag energy that the conjunction with the Galactic center is challenging the planet to overcome. The Pluto in Sag generation is watching and learning from all of these performances on the world and local stages. What we do now will affect the way they begin to structure their beliefs of how the world is supposed to work. I can't emphasize enough that this structuring is taking place right now. If we allow the Bush and his ilk of any dogmatic persuasion win, what are we giving the Pluto in Sag generation to work with?

My 2¢ worth, as usual.

I think we need to think in fractal terms. Each galaxy would be a fractal of the entire universe. Each black hole in the middle of the galaxy, a fractal of the ayin sof.

Pluto Transiting the GC

I'm in no condition to post now.......but that usually doesn't stop me! I have SO much to share, I just need to figure out where's the best place to do it!? Since Nov. 20th 2005 (Mercury rx?) I've been getting repeated higher dimensional insights (some call these 'downloads') from my Higher Self and also from groups of consciousness in different dimensions (I call Them family). This has happened most of my life however - BUT- the current info/understandings are spectacular and concerns us all. These communications, sudden knowings and connections (I was wondering when transiting Uranus in Pisces in my 1st would trigger this in a bigger way) span not only my whole lifetime and what I've been doing, but far beyond and covers some of what we've been discussing on this and other threads. I'm ecstatically numb at the moment. Imagine what 2006 and 2007 will activate? We won't recognize ourselves in a few short years! Literally.

Galactic Centers........think of them as colossal 'Chakras' Massive centers where particular Energies emanate from to flow out into IT's local Galaxy (area of learning) supporting it with everything it needs to evolve within unthinkably long Galactic Cycles. (One Galactic rotation or Galactic Return, is 225 million years long or so I've read.) Another Galaxy has IT's GC or 'Cosmic Chakra' with Energies that IT's individual Galaxy needs to evolve, to learn, to experience, to express and experiment within. Now string some of them together so you have a group of them, Black Hole Galactic Centers with spinning Galaxies like Chakras out around them, maybe like in our spines, and we have what? Huge connected areas of growth/learning/evolution possibly?

Back to transiting Pluto and our GC. Like I've said before, Pluto represents the farthest out planet in our wee solar system and this is a huge symbolic clue as to what this transit probably holds for humanity. Also think of what all Pluto, Lord of the Underworld, Keeper of humanities Subconscious Mind, will be effected when aligned with our GC Black Hole! My first guess is that everything that's been surpressed for the past 26,000 year cycle and possibly longer, is going to be 'surfaced', made conscious from the Underworld of Pluto to be healed, transmuted, and then REintegrated by us. Humanities Shadow receives direct Light from the GC! Wow...... I intuit that the exact 'Hits' to GC will each be highly archetypal and specific with what gets made conscious, transmuted, and then integrated. Phases of Global Initiation so that we don't blow circuits, central nervous systems, or internal body parts! And all that's only looking at this from the perspective of Pluto!!! God only knows what the GC will emanate during this transit to transform even more!

IOW's humanity can NOT go any further into the Light (evolve) without first transmuting everything it's ignored, supressed, ran away from, projected out onto 'Evil Others' etc. and this last biggie is represented by Pluto in our solar system and the Galactic Center in our Galaxy. I for one can't wait. "Light is information; Love is creation."

Lapis,

I can also see the multitude of GCs in this universe being meridian points and the superclusters being the Chakras. The superclusters, like the Virgo Supercluster that the Milky Way and Andromeda belong to, connect to other dimensions and universes through the dark matter and energy in the universe. Dark here, of course, only refers to absence of visible light and not a commentary on an anthropomorphised quality. Both dark and light energy are neutral just as light and dark matter is neutral.

Not that you needed that pointed out because I know you know that concept. Just helping others understand.

IOW's humanity can NOT go any further into the Light (evolve) without first transmuting everything it's ignored, supressed, ran away from, projected out onto 'Evil Others' etc. and this last biggie is represented by Pluto in our solar system and the Galactic Center in our Galaxy. I for one can't wait.

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I do agree that humanity can't evolve any further until it transforms and transmutes the way it has used energy negatively throughout the past 26,000 years. The transmutation and transformation principle is housed in Pluto's energy for this solar system. When it conjuncts the GC, it will put humanity, as well as the whole planet, into the vibratory stream of the entire galaxy instead of being shut off in its own little corner of its spiral arm. This is not the first time this conjunction has happened, by any means. It is the first time that it has happened where pockets of humanity are actually conscious of it and trying to usher in a healthy use of the energy for the greatest and highest good of planet Earth and its inhabitants.

Or, at least, I hope that last statement is true.