Stellium Saggitarius

What does this tell you about me, i have seen many charts for the past 2 years and i still haven't seen one as concentrated as mine?

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Hi, I am a part of your cohort. I was born a day after you (Moon is in late Aquarius). How do you think your life has gone those far? Do you have any idea of your birth time or who you may go to to get that information?
 
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Hi, I am a part of your cohort. I was born a day after you (Moon is in late Aquarius). How do you think your life has gone those far? Do you have any idea of your birth time or who you may go to to get that information?

I was born at 10:22am, the chart should've had that written down but i guess i took the wrong screenshot because i noticed that too initially and had corrected it... it significantly the same.
My life has been very linear in growth, i have a constant need to change if i fall in addiction, alcoholism, drugs or any bad behaved habits.
I studied linguistics, psychology and philosophy; specialized in Greek, 17th to 19th century philosophers regarding existentialism, nihilism and stoicism.

I was conscious of time since the age of 8 and that's been my only enemy in life so far. I can see where I will end up and usually when I see it this clearly, it ends up being true, it's literally just a matter of time.
Which i've recently learnt to embrace partially; because time is my enemy and the goal in which i want to achieve (donkey and carrot) is also my enemy, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" pretty much uses one of them against each other.

I have also been writing in my journal my thoughts, mental models and frameworks of life since i was 18 years old and i have like over 2000 thousands notes.

If you're looking for advice, find yourself through the archetypes of the world, we come from knowing nothing to knowing something to becoming something.
I used mbti and astrology as a main framework to find what the characteristics to be is. For example, they say sag are social butterflies, some traits might be true which are what i will associate to and become because you will only see what you want to see and be what you already are, it will just be more refined and you will be more confident.
Find a mentor:
Plotinus, Third Ennead - Fourt tractate: Oir tutelary spirit
"We must understand that, while our Souks do contain Intellectual Kosmos they also contain a subordination of various forms like that of the Kosmic soul. The world Soul is distributed so as to produce the fixed sphere and the planetary circuits corresponding to its graded powers: so with our Souls; they must have their provinces according to their different powers, parellel to those of the World Soul: each must give out its own special act; released, each will inhabit there a star consonant with the temperament and faculty in act within and constituting the principle of life; and this star or the next highest power will stand to them as God or more exactly as tutelary spirit.
 
Hi, I am a part of your cohort. I was born a day after you (Moon is in late Aquarius). How do you think your life has gone those far? Do you have any idea of your birth time or who you may go to to get that information?

So i wrote a **** ton and it all got deleted so i'll just quickly summarize it.
It's been everlastingly linear in growth but slow. Like the turtle and hare, i know i will make it but time is my enemy.
Put entrophy and time together, you have 2 enemies, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so use one another against each other.

Find a mentor:
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Plotinus, Third Ennead - Fourth Tractate: Our Tutelary Spirit
 

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No, I wasn't looking for advice. I was interested to here your life story because I have a mental database going of people born within a timeframe of roughly 22 Nov '95 - 2 Dec '95 which I believe share enough astrological commonality to observe similar traits and perhaps life trajectories. Seeing astrology working in the lives of real people help to ground the knowledge and you get to learn and develop your own thoughts and patterns separately from all the theory.

I demarcate this group mostly by intuition, but astrologically speaking the Sun is in the 1st 10 degrees of Sagittarius, The sun is in a conjunction with Pluto up to 10 degrees, the chart pattern is a bundle and the stationary Saturn energy seems to have an impact in these charts (importantly Saturn squares the Sagittarius stellium during this period). Any dates henceforth start to manifest different patterns - I know people who were born in mid December of '95 who have a different energy signature and outflow.

I didn't know what you expect from your response but surprisingly you have said things that fit the pattern quite nicely, much more than I expected.

Of the people of this date range, I am aware of 2 in medical school/on the path to being doctors, 3 teachers or with aspirations of being such, a librarian, a philogist and another that is majoring in creative writing. You fit the pattern of intellectual/cerebral rigor and a career path that borns it out. There seems to be a preference for the humanities in this group and strong literary interests and creativity. The majority of persons I know from this group I've known because of astrology - so our placements gears us toward astrology higher than the average.

Of the set, two have decried being late bloomers or feeling inadequate among their peers for an inability to measure up. Both of these charts and persons happen to be Venus ruled. (One has a Libra rising, the other is Taurus). This means that Venus in Capricorn rules their chart and Stationary Saturn in Pisces is the dispositor.

I know of 3 persons within this group who were heavily active on astrology forums - that is not an average thing to have in common with people. Myself on this website and another poster on linda-goodman. We were also both born on Nov 28. The other poster was also an active member on this forum.

I know of two with very powerful visions for themselves and their future trajectory - you just based off of what you have told me, one of the med students who was described to me by the individual who told me about him as "easily one of the most motivated persons they know", and myself.

I see a lot of similarities between what you have written and what I have done on my "path" but I will leave that for later.

The Saturn that we share helps to put on breaks on that scintillating stellium. I'll elaborate more when I get the time.
 
Ok so my life story.
Both parents divorced, mother is neurotic; father is distant because of that and emotionally emasculated.
Raised by women as far as i can remember, all men in my family are either dead or gone; basically biological life expectancy lol.

Both sides are entrepreneurs, my mother's side is more poor, they are nomads, artisans (creators and street engineer) and cook generational bloodline.
My father's side is more aristocrat and bourgeois, artists and more sedimentary.
They are both 2nd generation of wealth and proper living hood; meaning their parents had it the toughest, they significantly reduced the difficulty but i still struggled because they took care of their environment with disregard to their psychology and mind.

I have been moving around for a long time, i've moved out 15 times since i was born, i have changed school 6 times; some because of life choices but others because of my younger delinquency. I am sort of a late bloomer because i became self-aware and started acting on my life at 18 to 19.
I had to go rock-bottom working at shitty minimum wage jobs, going to the army, alcoholism and drugs to see what i wanted. I used to play games 8 hours a day ever since 8 to 19 years old, my mother was sheltering me from life because she was a helicopter mother. I forgave her and my father because they could not know any better.

My academic background is in: Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Philosophy, Linguistics, Finance and Administration, Programming (HTML, CSS, PHP), Graphic design, Photography, Psychology. I discovered meaning through a Scorpio/Libra (forgot because it fluctuates because of the sidereal and traditional difference) friend.

I completely destroyed myself from 19 years old and below and everything i know now is 100% absorbed compared to being absorbed through a lens that the child self developed. Right now i work at the bank and i trade part time, my profits are linear and i know that i've chosen this path to be my professional based on my previous choices that i kept going. I really enjoy numbers and i realize that our behaviours in other categories shows how we will act in new categories.

If anything, you can provide me advice and more on what you said because it had some impact so far; i appreciate the guidance.
 
If i could ask specific questions to my specific problems, these would be it:

How do i discipline my impulses in order to be more productive?
Because that is what makes me act and do trial and error which in turns provides linear growth but also my demise

I figured out that if i see what i want to be clearly, it is only a matter of time to close the gap, like the donkey and carrot example. But i also know that if i put in more time in this vision, i could accelerate the process maybe?

Financially, where are you now, how was the ride and how can you compare to where i am now? I had 6 digits return 2 years ago and now i just went back to my 5 digits after losing most of it because of a naive mistake.

How has naivety and gullibleness affected your life?
In King Lear, the fool is the one who speaks the truth but no one believes because of his status of the fool. One has to be willing to be a fool to start something new because he will be laughed at.

What books and quotes can you recommend?
My favorite readings are from John Dewey and Marcus Aurelius; Experience and Education and Meditations. Closely followed by Plotinus and his Enneads, Hero's of a Thousand Journey, Plato's Charmides dialogue.
 

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Hello again, there are a couple of things that some of the group share that I will make known to you.

One of the med students literally grew up in the church and was an altar boy for a number of years. He is still very much active in his Christian community as far as I know. A female born on the 23rd became a very devout Christian after leaving high school which nobody expected due to the fact that she was sexually controversial during her time in school. In fact, 3 women of the group were highly sexed in the sense that they had and partook in many sexual opportunities. One of the late blooming girls mentioned a lot of crushes that she has had but she doesn't seem to be as sexually active as those 3. There is a 4th girl in the group who also seemed to have gone through a 180 in college - she became quite the party animal while in high school she was a little more reserved, if not very gregarious and jovial. I don't know of her sexual history but the assumption may be that she relaxed her barriers in that regard, too.

Spirituality is high in the group, if not intellectually then practically (maybe this is obvious to you and anybody paying attention). The two Christians, you and I, as well as another who similarly was very interested in the occult, having a collection of astrological literature, a practiced tarot reader as well as a practitioner of magic. Then all the others who come to my attention through astrology also count, if not in actuality then in potential.

Voracious researchers and readers; that's a given.

I have done a lot of research and heavy reading into similar fields such as you but I was never taught formally or in a university setting. My forays into philosophy, spiritual texts and occult material were always primarily self-driven. You made mention of the tutelary spirit a la Plotinus and that struck me because the reason why I started to delve into magic seriously was because years ago I came across the idea of the "Holy Guardian Angel" and how union or communion with this spirit would get you in touch of your "true will" (I'm mixing terminologies now but I hope this doesn't obscure my meaning). Once I found what I was meant to do the idea was just to barrel down that path with all my energy and aspirational force. Ironically the method on how to figure out this spirit through astrology resulted in two almost equal planetary options. Coming at this crossroad, I came up on "theurgy" as being a way to get into contact with this being and off I went into deeper magical study. (The irony of this state of affairs is not lost on me, since years later I have been a part of spiritual groups who were similarly looking for this communion although they didn't get there through astrology. The HGA has been beckoning to me all along.) This was by no means my first real foray into magic, since by then I had a lot of exposure to hermetic literature, Rudolf Steiner, Franz Bardon, theosophy, buddhist thought among others.

As to where I am in regard to my own spiritual practice and aspirations, that can be a discussion for some other time. Some things have changed from that expressed purpose that made me set out so vehemently those years ago.

I can say that I am not interested in having a mentor in any traditional kind of way, nor do I feel particularly "lost" although the way ahead of me is vast and arduous. Right now I think it's necessary for me to be a lone practitioner, at least due to the way my life is constituted currently.

I'll respond to your life story posts next.
 

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I wouldn't have any particular books or quotes to suggest to you since I am not sure what you are looking for in terms of "internal projects" or meditations. However I can say to you that I tend to feel in my gut those quotes that have an air of "Banged up, but prevailed." Or something of steely resolve. I shared these sets of books to one previous forum member and I think I can share them with you, too. Pick what you want and discard the rest. I should really revisit some of these myself.

Beyond Good and Evil - Friedrich Nietzsche https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content...d-and-Evil.pdf
The Antichrist - Friedrich Nietzsche https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1932...THE_ANTICHRIST
Ecce Homo - Friedrich Nietzsche http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/Ecce Homo.pdf
Human, All to Human - Friedrich Nietzsche http://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.ed...B000773557.pdf
Untimely Meditations - Friedrich Nietzsche http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/...phy__1997).pdf
The Will to Power - Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.newforestcentre.info/uplo...l_to_power.pdf
Revolt against the Modern World - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...dern-World.pdf
Ride the Tiger - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...f-the-Soul.pdf
The Hermetic Tradition - Julius Evola http://thekingdomwithin.net/wp-conte...radition-1.pdf
Metaphysics of War - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...ola-Julius.pdf
The Mystery of the Grail - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...-the-Grail.pdf
Meditations on the Peaks - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...tual-Quest.pdf
The Doctrine of Awakening - Julius Evola
Introduction to Magic - Julius Evola http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress...n-to-Magic.pdf
The Yoga of Power - Julius Evola https://renatus.it/files/evola_juliu...a_of_power.pdf
Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson - G.I Gurdjieff https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content...-Gurdjieff.pdf
Introducing the writings of Frithjof Schuon http://www.frithjofschuon.info/uploa...ticles/152.pdf
The Transcendent Unity of Religions - Frithjof Schuon
The Transfiguration of Man - Frithjof Schuon
Logic and Transcendence - Frithjof Schuon http://traditionalhikma.com/wp-conte...jof-Schuon.pdf
The Fullness Of God: Frithjof Schuon on Christianity - Frithjof Schuon
The Reign of Quantity and the Sign of the Times - Rene Guenon
The Crises of the Modern World - Rene Guenon https://dinghal.com/bibliotheek/The_...dern_World.pdf
The Essential Rene Guenon: Metaphysics, Tradition and the Crises of Modernity - Rene Guenon
The Language of the Bird - Rene Guenon http://www.worldwisdom.com/public/vi...ene_Guenon.pdf
Isis Unveiled - H.P Blavasky http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/theosop...veiled_V_I.pdf
Treatise on Cosmic Fire - Alice Bailey http://www.bailey.it/files/Treatise-on-Cosmic-Fire.pdf
Rest of Alice Bailey and her Corpus here https://www.lucistrust.org/online_bo...obooks_website
Liber 4 - Aleister Crowley http://files.vsociety.net/data/libra...r ABA).pdf
Liber Samekh - Aleister Crowley https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/c.../liber800a.pdf
Magic Without Tears - Aleister Crowley http://www.tomegatherion.co.uk/magickwithouttears.pdf
The Tree of Life - A Study in Magic - Israel Regardie http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/book...in Magic.pdf
The Rites and Symbols of Initiation: The Mysteries of Birth and Rebirth - Mircea Eliade https://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org...[TKRG].pdf
The Sacred and the Profane: The nature of Religion - Mircea Eliade https://monoskop.org/images/b/b1/Eli...ofane_1963.pdf
Faustian Man in a multicultural Age - Ricardo Duchesne
The Peace - Ernst Juenger http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/...-The-Peace.pdf
Works by Aristotle http://www.constitution.org/ari/aris...+physics.pdf
Geosophia: The Argo of Magic Volume 1 - Jake Stratton-Kent https://vk.com/doc13375874_317115271...728b6098274027
Geosophia: The Argo of Magic Volume 2 - Jake Stratton-Kent https://vk.com/doc13375874_317115311...4ec8a27bd41cf4
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius http://seinfeld.co/library/meditations.pdf
Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Sha.../dp/B00IC8VF10
A Practical Guide to Qabalistic Symbolism - Gareth Knight http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/book...0Symbolism.pdf
The Tibetan Book of the Dead http://padmasambhavagururinpoche.com...the-dead_4.pdf
The Undiscovered Self - Carl Jung https://fleurmach.files.wordpress.co...-self-1957.pdf
Man and His Symbols - Carl Jung https://monoskop.org/images/9/97/Von...mbols_1988.pdf
Mystery Coniunctionis - Carl Jung https://www.amazon.com/Mysterium-Con.../dp/0691018162
The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious - Carl Jung https://www.amazon.com/Archetypes-Co.../dp/0691018332
Oracle of the Tarot - Paul Foster Case http://tikaboo.com/library/Paul Fo...he Tarot.pdf
The Meme Machine - Susan Blackmore https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Sus...emeMachine.pdf
The Golem - Gustav Meyrink http://www.unclecthulhu.com/books/TheGolem.pdf
The Exorcist's Handbook - Josephine Mccarthy https://www.amazon.com/Exorcists-Han.../dp/193399391X
An Exorcist tells his Story - Gabriele Amorth http://www.youngandcatholicng.com/wp...ele-Amorth.pdf
The Work of the Heirophant - Josephine Mccarthy https://www.amazon.com/Exorcists-Han.../dp/193399391X
Magic Knowledge: Book 1 Magical Foundations/The Lone Practitioncer - Josephine McCarthy https://www.amazon.com/Magical-Knowl.../dp/1906958440
DMT: The Spirit Molecule - Rick Strassman http://www.organiclab.narod.ru/books...t-molecule.pdf
The Book of Gates: A Magical Translation - Josephine McCarthy https://www.amazon.com/Book-Gates-Ma.../dp/1911134221
Sufism: An Introduction to the Mystical Tradition of Islam - Carl W. Ernst Ph.D.https://www.amazon.com/Sufism-Introd...H671PT06Z4PP39
Cyprian of Antioch: A Mage of Many Faces - Frater Acher https://www.amazon.com/Sufism-Introd...H671PT06Z4PP39
A General Introduction to Psychoanalysis - Sigmund Freud
Works by Arthur Schopenhauer
Plato Complete Works
Sigmund Freud: The Collected Works
The Greatest Short Stories of Leo Tolstoy
(The last 5 were gotten at dirt cheap prices on amazon kindle)

ETA: A lot of these links to free books are broken but nevertheless you can search for those titles that you are most drawn to.
 
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Naivete and gullibility aren't my Achilles heel. I've suffered more setbacks due to procrastination, unconscientiousness, inability to rein in my anger at key times, obsession and absorption to the exception of everything else in my life, wanting to make gargantuan efforts on my own steam without the input of others, and adherence to my own viewpoint/values so much that I cut off other people in my life. A lot of these are double-edged swords but objectively speaking I've lost a lot of ground due to this "ungovernable" aspect to my character, similar to what I see in your story. I see one this difference in the fact that my most angular planet at the ascendant is Mars, while yours is Neptune. At least that is one of the explanations of this difference.

Our bloodlines are surprisingly similar too, except the roles were flipped where the paternal side were the cooks and the maternal side were more artistic and high society types. Both sides of the family are entrepreneurial and nomadic. Missionaries as well as criminals and real scum were in the recent genetic history. Mental illness bridged with genius too - I currently have a great granduncle who paints very moving and otherworldy works of art but is currently eating out of trash cans. He got that way due to partaking in drugs exactly one time.

As to advice, this was said to me recently by someone who has my back and that was, "Do not despise the day of small beginnings." You and I are both being taught the value of patience and sitting still in order to build something of value and significance. I recognize myself in the same "space" as you currently. Trying to go faster might be the wrong approach at this point. There has been many obstacles in my life obviating what I want to achieve in the short term, and I am now beginning to really see that I am being told to focus and hunker down, since what I am doing is for the long haul.

Also, I am saying this as much to myself as I am too you and that is - Let us do all that is in our power to take our life seriously and do the things that we know should get done, lest we end up with nothing but our broken aspirations 20 years from now (if we are still alive)
 
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