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...a Grand Cross - Venus - Saturn - Neptune - Moon. How does that play out in your life? I find Grand Cross and T-squares very perplexing......I mean what exactly is their purpose? ...Lemme know how you think the Grand Cross plays out in your life (if at all), and can they be overcome?....and whats more interesting is I think you also have a Grand Trine (Moon-Mercury-Uranus)......Grand Cross and Grand Trine...how do you interpret this??
Hi, Nepredil696,
A Grand Cross is seen as a source of extreme tension whereby various aspects of the personality (represented by the planets) are working at cross purposes that serve to nullify each other. This pulls the native in many directions, ultimately leading to indecisiveness and an inability to produce concrete achievements. It is said to take extraordinary effort to overcome the conflicts in a Grand Cross.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_cross_(astrology)
I have a Mutable Grand Cross. I read somewhere that means a karma of ignorance. I also have SN in Aquarius in the 11 which would mean I have spent the last life (at least) pursuing mental goals and in this life I should learn to follow my heart more. These two don't seem to match the way I understand them... So is the ignorance the problem or not? Or maybe I should rise to a superior level of understanding...
I don't know how this Cross plays!
The description for it suits me well, I could succeed in a lot of things but there's always something preventing me.
I have a Grand Trine which is also a part of a Kite :
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=387484
which should give me some help.
The Trine is about emotions because is in water signs and the Cross seems to be emotional too, involving all my "sensitive" planets - Moon, Venus, Neptune - in combination with the harshest one - Saturn and being mutable.
The problem of the chart seems to be that I feel to much and I am unstable, running from one problem to another.
A Cross and a Kite? Someone talented but this doesn't serve them much...
I think I have a Grand Cross....or a T-square, not sure which one [Sun/Mer, Uranus, Jupiter, Chiron(?)]....some say Grand Cross others T-square....and since I don't understand these configurations very well, I can't comment on how they play out in my life.
Some astrologers use Chiron and thus you seem to have a Grand Cross and others, more traditional, don't and you have a t-square...
I think it's important how you feel about it and it's possible to feel the whole Chiron - thing...
How do you read your Chiron....in the 1st house or in the 2nd....Chiron in the 1st house seems interesting...I guess self-discovery is very important to you? I have a friend with Chiron in the 1st house and he's always had an intense need to find personal meaning in existence, and everything thing he does.
My Chiron falls in the 1st or in the 2nd house depending on the house system I use and so I look at both its interpretations.
I have a strong need for meaning but it could come from other parts of the chart as well...
Chiron in the 1st/2nd and in Taurus I would say it's about self-worth because the Taurus and the 2nd house is about values.
Discovering my self-worth, teaching others about it etc. I've been taught I needed to prove myself in order to be loved and I suppose I don't feel worthy of love (without doing anything at all) even now.
I've tried to be "the most intelligent", "the most beautiful", "the most needed" actually whatever it meant and I've discovered it means nothing.
I could be the president of the United States lol and that particular person that I'm interested in could not care less about it.
That's one of the main lessons in the chart, from wherever it may arise.
I am a talented person, I can adapt and learn a particular thing, but this will mean nothing to the person I love, making me feel, despite of all the efforts and sacrifices (the Moon) worth-less. The lack of worth comes from the fact that all the things I ever did didn't bring me true love which made me equate the things I can do and finally myself with zero.
I probably should not estimate my value upon the love I receive (which means in fact what "others" think of me) but on a different system which should not be based on "others" or anything unstable.
I don't know how to solve the lack of the received love, I just let go of the people that don't appreciate me but the ones that follow are the same.
The solution - being alone? I have friends, family and I interact with people but lately I haven't let anyone in my heart because it seems pointless.
I have learned that if someone doesn't love you then they just don't and you should let go. Love comes freely or doesn't come at all.
I have a question about Neptune's placement in my chart.....it's in my sixth house....and in this house I have both Neptune and Uranus. How would you interpret this? Now, all my life I had major confusions regarding my career, since I was a child I could never answer the question 'what do you want to be when you grown up'.....as I could never define a career for my self. Do you suppose the energies of these planets in the 6th house could lead to these confusions. Or should I just look to the 10th house and MC for career?
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/neptuneinhouses.html
With Neptune in the sixth house, you may easily gloss over the details of managing day-to-day affairs. Perhaps you have adopted a personal philosophy that life means more than just sticking to routines, making lists, and organizing bills to pay. However, avoiding or ignoring these basic responsibilities can lead to much confusion and chaos, as well as guilt. You might give in to co-workers too easily, or not take credit for your own hard work. You might have inflated ideals regarding being helpful to others. You want to help others unconditionally, but if you don't draw some lines and boundaries, you could feel put upon. Or, you could feel helpless when it comes to managing your daily affairs or work, and often depend on others to save you from these tasks. On the level of health, you might have mysterious health complaints that are hard to diagnose, sensitivity to drugs, or allergies. These might be related to the aforementioned guilt.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/uranusinhouses.html
You are likely to enjoy work associated with science and technology. Working, especially day-to-day stuff may be more of a chore to you than most. Your freedom loving instincts propel you to seek out work that allows you the most personal freedom. A regular eight-to-five kind of job is likely a turn off for you. Your work desk will usually resemble a disaster area.
From what I've read it seems you just don't like a regular job. You want an ideal schedule which could give you freedom or you're just dissatisfied with you daily job because you're idealistic about it. You may want something "unusual", different, exciting etc. But that's the daily job.
The career and the daily job are not the same for everybody. Some people do what they need to do for a living but that's not their ideal career.
As I see it, the 6th is what you do to get by and the 10th is what you really want to do or "the career" in the long run.
The 6th is the environment,the workplace. And judging by Neptune and Uranus you want to run away from there and be free, do something out of the ordinary.
In conclusion, to find the career you would love you should look at the 10th, and you even have the NN there so you're looking in the right direction