Hi,
My ASC is 29deg 11' , and I calculated that if I was born just 4 minutes later I would have rising.
How should I interpret this?
Should I blend interpretations? Should I think of my birth chart as having two ruling planets?
Hi,
My ASC is 29deg 11' , and I calculated that if I was born just 4 minutes later I would have rising.
How should I interpret this?
Should I blend interpretations? Should I think of my birth chart as having two ruling planets?
Does your MC-IC axis change signs as well with the 4 min difference? Do you want to post your chart?
Rectification Tips thread discussionHi,
My ASC is 29deg 11' , and
I calculated that if I was born just 4 minutes later I would have rising.
How should I interpret this?
Should I blend interpretations?
Should I think of my birth chart as having two ruling planets?
you need to rectify your chart first
just to make sure your correct ascendant.
Sign change is a huge jump.
I am betting that it is Gemini
because birth certificates usually do not have later birth charts.
Often, birth time is recorded later, so it is more likely than not
that you are/ could be Gem. Asc.
Does your MC-IC axis change signs as well with the 4 min difference? Do you want to post your chart?
AN EXAMPLE RECTIFICATIONThanks all.
I tried a couple of free rectification calculators online,
but they didn't help much.
Can you recommend one?
Or perhaps you could recommend some software that can help?
consider using the foregoingYes, nowadays I ignore the syzygy and focus on the planet which makes the closest exact aspect to the Asc (and Dsc) or the Mc (and Ic). A major technical difference between this and the Ptolemaic Animodar is that mine requires a planet to be at the angle or in aspect, while Ptolemy seems to allow it to be disjunct, only requiring the numeric degree it has passed within its sign to be the same (it is like an exact semi-sextile or inconjunct modern ''aspect''). This does not seem physical to me, but rather numerological and uncharacteristic of Ptolemy's intentions of astrology.
So I recommend that one follows a more limited approach with regard to aspects, but more broad approach with regard to rulers. Often, the two methods (the Ptolemaic Animodar and the Petosiris Animodar) will give the same results, since they are based on similar physical reasoning.
I recommend one step - a planet in conjunction, sextile, square, trine or opposition with an angle. Take for example the chart of Ptolemy's second biggest fan (after me) - Girolamo Cardano - https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Cardano,_Girolamo
There is no planet in aspect with an angle at 18:29 when the Ascendant is at 6° 22' Taurus. But noticing that Jupiter is nearby, we can put him exactly at the Ascendant giving us 18:20 time, or a 9 minute rectification. Jupiter rising rather than declining may better explain his life and fame.
1. Examine the preceding syzygy, whether it was a new moon or a full moon.
2. If the preceding syzygy was a new moon, observe its degree at the time of the nativity.
3. If the preceding syzygy was a full moon by night, we observe the degree of the syzygy. By day, we observe the degree opposite the syzygy, which is the degree of the luminary above the horizon (in that case the Sun).
4. Observe the degree at the approximate time of the nativity, and give a point to any of the following planets with rulership over the degree at the time of birth (see http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/3A*.html#note9)
5. Give a point to any planet in the same sign as the degree or in sign with some aspect (sextile, square, trine or opposition) to it.
6. If one star is familiar with the degree in all or most of these ways, whatever degree of its sign it is passing at the time of birth, the same numerical degree is rising (Asc) or culminating (Mc) at the time of birth.
7. If two or more stars are predominators, observe the one that is closer to the approximate time. If it so happens that we do not have the nearest hour of birth, we can establish it through combination of accidental qualities. The foregoing rectification is for time with approximate hour.
Thanks for the chart, but it is very unclear. Any chance you can pull it on astro.comThe MC is at 19deg , and so would take a lot to change it. I've attached my birth chart.
I've attached a PNG from astro.com. Hopefully this one is more legible!
I wouldn't describe my face as well-rounded, but mellow eyes could be true. Although my weight is under control, I do have to watch what I eat quite carefully, and make sure to limit myself constantly.Do you have a well rounded face with sort of mellow eyes and a tendency to put on weight if you don't watch yourself all the time?
I left the country of my birth approx 20 years ago, and have moved country several times since then.Were you born overseas or spend time there in your childhood?
Yes, my Mum is a very central figure in my life. Our relationship has been very positive, but has required some work to heal mistakes I have made.Your mum seems to be a very central fig. regardless of whether or not you are a Cancer Asc. Your Moon is very strong in Cancer and it makes a no. of close aspects to the outer planets as well as Saturn.
Only in the sense that we own a house (well, the bank owns about half of it, but we're working on that!).Could I ask if you already own some real estate?
I wouldn't describe my face as well-rounded, but mellow eyes could be true. Although my weight is under control, I do have to watch what I eat quite carefully, and make sure to limit myself constantly.
I left the country of my birth approx 20 years ago, and have moved country several times since then.
Yes, my Mum is a very central figure in my life. Our relationship has been very positive, but has required some work to heal mistakes I have made.
Only in the sense that we own a house (well, the bank owns about half of it, but we're working on that!).