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Unread 01-24-2017, 04:21 PM
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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I don't know...I find that even less likely than Libra Ascendant. Mars/North Node in Leo on the Ascendant would make itself so obvious trine a 5th house ruler conjunct Uranus. Nothing about her life or personality suggests Martian.

There are familial trends but I wouldn't make any guesses based on it. Everyone in my immediate family has cardinal personal placements too, but I don't, so it happens.
True about the familial trends, she already has Libra dominant anyway.

If her ascendant isn't cardinal, then it is a bit of a toss up for me. I have looked at every ascendant possible for her. None of the fixed ascendants seemed right except maybe Scorpio and Leo to a lesser extent. For mutable ascendants, maybe Virgo conjunct Sun in the 12th.

I think her angles would have to aspect her Libra stellium in some way, either by conjunction or opposition.

I know you said you agreed on a Leo ascendant, would your guess have it not conjunct Mars?


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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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Yep, that seems accurate, she gives the perfect amount of energy on stage and she gives me Mars vibes, more so than Venus. Also if you look at videos from the Destiny's Child days, you can see how she dominates the spotlight from Kelly and Michelle, it's pretty funny, to be honest, but that Mars in Leo is truly at work. But Bey's very soft spoken, has this very calm, shy energy that's almost motherly (when she's not performing), the way she interacts with her fans, how emotional she gets, screams a passive rising and Cancer seems very fitting. Also the lyrics to formation have such a Cancer/Leo vibe to them.

Her daughter has a Virgo rising (apparently like Jay) and most interestingly, her moon is in Cancer. Now idk about y'all but my mother's moon is linked to my ascendant, I don't see why it wouldn't work vice versa. Blue is also a Capricorn Sun, so there's the cardinal sign to me.
She has the Aries rising look... the arched eyebrows and she gives off a fire sign vibe. I was in the Pisces rising camp before I saw Kannon's post. Aries rising would also mean the ruler of her ascendant is in Leo... the Earth vibe is likely because her Sun is in Virgo, and she has Scorpio Moon which gives her the water vibe.

As for Madonna, she has the Aquarius rising look down to a tee (similar to Christina Aguilera and Cyndi Lauper).

For Diana Ross, her face does have a square/rectangle shape, like Scorpio rising.

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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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Probably this chart was cast at 12:00 because there is no known birthtime. When people don't know the birth time, they cast the chart at noon.
Actually, astrodatabank has her chart at 10am, but it is rated DD ... so probably not known accurately. But this time would put Venus right on her ASC and she is indeed very Venusian in what she does and how she appears.
I think her ASC either has Venus conjunct it or is ruled by Venus or Sun.

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Unread 03-12-2017, 02:19 PM
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

I always had her down as Leo Ascendant too. Astrotheme has her as Libra Ascendant which puts her Mars-North Node conjunction in Leo in the 10th house... which is fame, career, success.. which makes sense. It does put the majority of her planets in the southern hemisphere too, which makes sense. But, it puts Pluto on her Ascendant, which will give a huge dose of Scorpio energy on the Asc, explaining why people see her as a Scorpio Ascendant.

Venus conjunct Pluto on the Asc is accurate. The reason I had her as Leo on the Ascendant is because of her star like persona, but it would shift her planets into the northern hemisphere which I don't feel is accurate. But people (especially celebrities) with Pluto on the Asc have a very magnetic like quality and very strong reactions towards them from the public (Bieber also has this), and Beyoncé does get strong reactions, everyone seems to love her. So I'm starting to think the chart Astrotheme has with the Libra Ascendant is accurate. Not sure about Cancer Midheaven though, I would have put my bet on Leo, but right at the 0 degree so that her Mars/NN conjunction is exactly conjunct the MC.
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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I think her angles would have to aspect her Libra stellium in some way, either by conjunction or opposition.

I know you said you agreed on a Leo ascendant, would your guess have it not conjunct Mars?
Yes, she is not a Martian. A Mars/N.Node/Leo Ascendant would be kicking butt and taking names. 12th house Mars in Leo, since you're a fan of hers and if you're versed in astrology, makes much more sense, agreed? That was actually the time listed for her once upon a time. I have no idea where this DD Libra time came from. I'm always suspicious when Libra ends up as the Ascendant of a celeb with no verification or documents provided because it is the go-to Ascendant for "beautiful" female celebs and is often wrong when the real time is found out.

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For mutable ascendants, maybe Virgo conjunct Sun in the 12th.
The Sun rising? Not a bad choice.

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I always had her down as Leo Ascendant too. Astrotheme has her as Libra Ascendant which puts her Mars-North Node conjunction in Leo in the 10th house... which is fame, career, success.. which makes sense. It does put the majority of her planets in the southern hemisphere too, which makes sense[...] The reason I had her as Leo on the Ascendant is because of her star like persona, but it would shift her planets into the northern hemisphere which I don't feel is accurate.
Sometimes when it quacks like a duck, it's a duck... What is off-base about a northern hemisphere emphasis? Her introversion is pretty well-known; the stage persona which is not in sync with her overall personality could easily arise from Leo Ascendant carrying an introverted chart.
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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Yes, she is not a Martian. A Mars/N.Node/Leo Ascendant would be kicking butt and taking names. 12th house Mars in Leo, since you're a fan of hers and if you're versed in astrology, makes much more sense, agreed?

Sometimes when it quacks like a duck, it's a duck... What is off-base about a northern hemisphere emphasis? Her introversion is pretty well-known; the stage persona which is not in sync with her overall personality could easily arise from Leo Ascendant carrying an introverted chart.
I could see this. Perhaps a time of about 5 am. That puts chart ruler, Sun, in the 2nd house, trine MC and sextile Moon.
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

I feel She got libra rising

like shown here: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Beyonc%C3%A9

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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

The chart I saw had cap rising with Venus in libra on the midheaven.
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The chart I saw had cap rising with Venus in libra on the midheaven.
Where did you see this?
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

For me she's a Taurus Rising, because she wants to be treated like a holy cow... Joking, well semi joking (Queen B). She's super beautiful, so Venus Rising would be fitting. She's not airy, dizzy, people oriented enough for a Libra ASC. Tarus Rising would put her Virgo Sun and maybe some of her Libra planets in 5th house. Leo Mars in 4th house. Capricorn MC - ruler of MC in Libra. Scorpio dsc - her love relationship is very private. She and Jay- Z have the image of The Power Couple, so it would resonate with the Scorpio archetype...
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

She's definitely a Capricorn rising. She has an earthy sense about her and seems quite reserved and shy. Also, I see a hint of Gemini in her makeup which would mean she has it in her 6th house.
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Unread 05-18-2017, 08:34 PM
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

The AstroTwins say that they did an astrology chart reading for Beyonce in person in 2003 and that she has Libra rising.
http://astrostyle.com/beyonce-lemonade-star-sign/
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The AstroTwins say that they did an astrology chart reading for Beyonce in person in 2003 and that she has Libra rising.
http://astrostyle.com/beyonce-lemonade-star-sign/
Thanks for this.
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I think Aries rising makes more sense. If you look at Rihanna, who also has Aries rising, you will some physical similarities in the two. Curvy with wide hips and thick thighs, long meaty legs, small calves and ankles, long oval face, wide nose tip, "sharp" eyes, large forehead, plump lips...this is all very "Mars" to me. Mars people tend to be stocky/chubby/well rounded in physical appearance. Doesn't mean they are fat but their body has a good amount of meat with very little sharp angles.

The personalities are also similar. They seem to get agitated quickly when they're in a large room of people they don't f with...they're very private about their personal matters to. They don't like that confrontation and intimidation of people who don't know them very well getting all in their business. They like a fight but not one where someone is trying to turn the tables on them. Beyoncé rarely does interviews anymore (not after Wendy Williams said she had the grammar skills of a child lmao) and Beyoncé doesn't let her personal information get to the media too quick. Her birth time, her kids being born, her relationships, her album release...she always keeps stuff very secret. Rihanna is similar. Rihanna doesn't really do many interviews and the ones she does you can tell she is trying hard not to roll her eyes at the **** she's asked. She smiles and laughs it off...her and bey have the same "I'm annoyed pls shut up" smile.

It would explain the confusion in the Leo rising too. Fire signs are very similar and for obvious reasons...the "take charge" cardinal Aries has many similarities to the Leo who is always in the spotlight. Beyoncé = leader of DC. One of the best singers in the media. One of the best dancers. One of the most iconic and memorable. One of the MOST talked about. Fits the Aries and Leo so it could be either. Not libra tho!


Both of her parents are Capricorns (cardinal signs) and her sister is a cancer (another cardinal sign) so it would make sense if Beyoncés rising was Also cardinal. The parents chart tends to pass off into the children in one of the immediate planets and/or points (the sun the moon the rising or the midheaven). She has too much fire in her to be any other cardinal rising. Must be Aries rising and if not that she must be Leo rising. Anything else just doesn't make sense to me.
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I think Aries rising makes more sense. If you look at Rihanna, who also has Aries rising, you will some physical similarities in the two. Curvy with wide hips and thick thighs, long meaty legs, small calves and ankles, long oval face, wide nose tip, "sharp" eyes, large forehead, plump lips...this is all very "Mars" to me. Mars people tend to be stocky/chubby/well rounded in physical appearance. Doesn't mean they are fat but their body has a good amount of meat with very little sharp angles.

The personalities are also similar. They seem to get agitated quickly when they're in a large room of people they don't f with...they're very private about their personal matters to. They don't like that confrontation and intimidation of people who don't know them very well getting all in their business. They like a fight but not one where someone is trying to turn the tables on them. Beyoncé rarely does interviews anymore (not after Wendy Williams said she had the grammar skills of a child lmao) and Beyoncé doesn't let her personal information get to the media too quick. Her birth time, her kids being born, her relationships, her album release...she always keeps stuff very secret. Rihanna is similar. Rihanna doesn't really do many interviews and the ones she does you can tell she is trying hard not to roll her eyes at the **** she's asked. She smiles and laughs it off...her and bey have the same "I'm annoyed pls shut up" smile.

It would explain the confusion in the Leo rising too. Fire signs are very similar and for obvious reasons...the "take charge" cardinal Aries has many similarities to the Leo who is always in the spotlight. Beyoncé = leader of DC. One of the best singers in the media. One of the best dancers. One of the most iconic and memorable. One of the MOST talked about. Fits the Aries and Leo so it could be either. Not libra tho!


Both of her parents are Capricorns (cardinal signs) and her sister is a cancer (another cardinal sign) so it would make sense if Beyoncés rising was Also cardinal. The parents chart tends to pass off into the children in one of the immediate planets and/or points (the sun the moon the rising or the midheaven). She has too much fire in her to be any other cardinal rising. Must be Aries rising and if not that she must be Leo rising. Anything else just doesn't make sense to me.
The AstroTwins would know, Beyonce went in for a reading; I'm sure they remember her birth time..
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

I don't know how Scorpio asce can be seen , but she comes across to me as sag rising.

*friendly , likeable, happy go lucky, pompous , loves travelling to shoot her music videos , loves foreign places and people, her earlier vids were with other races , lady gaga, etc.
*spiritual, religious, full of faith , philosophical, generous and charitable loving to support causes (her blue ivy park thingy) , humanitarian.

* she also has a long face ish
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I don't know how Scorpio asce can be seen , but she comes across to me as sag rising.

*friendly , likeable, happy go lucky, pompous , loves travelling to shoot her music videos , loves foreign places and people, her earlier vids were with other races , lady gaga, etc.
*spiritual, religious, full of faith , philosophical, generous and charitable loving to support causes (her blue ivy park thingy) , humanitarian.

* she also has a long face ish
I don't know about Sag rising, her face is a little wider.
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I don't know why people say Scorpio Risings can't be glamorous. I am a Scorpio Rising with Pluto in the 1st House and I'm very glamorous and quite the performer.

Then again I do have a Leo Mars and Leo MC.

But I still think she's a Leo Rising. She looks like a Leo Rising to me, the big hair, the outfits, the make up choices, etc. A typical Scorpio Rising performer would be like Janet Jackson or Prince.
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

Beyonce gave birth to Gemini twins on June 13, 2017 at 5:13 AM.
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Twins,_Carter

The twins both have Sun and Mercury in Gemini conjunct their Gemini ascendants.
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

This video will probably be taken down quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficSRx9c54Q


So the real dob is... September 4th 1974 or 1976, Texas.
She was born out of wedlock. Her mother was an escort/pros.... to make ends meet.
https://imgur.com/a/cs6TmzQ
https://imgur.com/a/xzVlCiZ
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

She’s beautiful ....... Leo north node placement...... either libra rising or Leo rising

Let’s ask her 😍

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Her Asc is right or close to it. Have all of you forgotten about the importance of angular planets?

Venus Angular
Charming, popular, graceful, "Grand affinity with mother nature",kind,poetic, youthful,kind, and seeks justice.

Pluto Angular
Loners, individuals who don't melt into the more, a law unto themselves. They like there alone time. They may not stand up for themselves as much but they do see good in humanity and will stand up for others to the death. They can possess a deep spritual way of being and strong intuition.

Ever wondered why and how Beyonce is good at keeping her private life private whole remaing a star? Venus-Pluto baby. It's also quite literaly destinies child.

She has a tropical Leo Mars and a sidereal Leo Sun. Mars signs are stronger than Asc it terms of Asc really don't tell much other than what you may look like. [This is all in getting from them].

Mars sign tells what sign you are whenever your in action. And when she hits the stage Leo is easy to see.

Her tropical strongest signs are libra>virgo>Scorpio>Leo>Cancer

Her sidereal are
Libra>Leo>Virgo>Cancer>Scorpio

See Constancy lies in both her charts. With Libra being at the top. It is a domicile angukar Venus in her tropical [with 4 other planets in libra] in sidereal that venus stays angular and dignifies her Moon. In tropical she has a Virgo Sun, a Virgo stellium in sidereal. In tropical she has a Leo Mars, a Leo Sun in sidereal. In tropical she has a cancer MC, a cancer Mars in sidereal. Scorpio manages to retain power through the exalted Uranus in Scorpio generation.

I see libra as a witchy sign. It is said that they arent afraid to practice the old religion. They can actualy be black sheep. Possessive, jealous, obsessive, intense all actualy come with the planet Venus [Pluto has extreme, ie polarized, this is different from intense]. Beyonce is "a lot". Rember that Libra comes with Saturn and Venus, beauty and death, thus is often forgotten about Libra.

As for planets in strength they are Venus-Pluto-Sun-Mercury. [These are all angular or dignified in both systems, ie no room for any argument against them].

For the witchy vibe I'm talking about.

https://youtu.be/WDZJPJV__bQ
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

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This video will probably be taken down quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficSRx9c54Q


So the real dob is... September 4th 1974 or 1976, Texas.
She was born out of wedlock. Her mother was an escort/pros.... to make ends meet.
https://imgur.com/a/cs6TmzQ
https://imgur.com/a/xzVlCiZ

The 1974 and 1976 documents have been proven fake.



Here is an official document:



Beyonce Giselle Knowles, 04 Sep 1981; from "Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2005); citing Texas Department of State Health Services.


https://www.familysearch.org/search/...3/1:1:VDJ5-HB7
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Re: Beyonce Knowles ascendant

I still think she’s a libra rising with Leo mc. Makes more sense
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