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To save the ENTIRE country from a second Great Depression, this was apparently necessary. I didn't like it either, but I suppose it did save the domino effect, when they saved the Car Industry then.

I would not automatically call that corruption at its core. Although I don' like at all, that the guiltier Bankers on Wall Street (including Steven M. ) didn't serve jail time and that Trump has now unraveled all the safeguards put into effect for the consumers next time because they bore an Obama signature.
"this was apparently necessary" - I like the way you phrased this, because this is were the lie begins, and shows how normal people like you just swallowed whatever they told you.

It wasn't necessary.

If the banks hadn't been bailed out, they would have gone bankrupt.

You may ask yourself: wouldn't that be worse? Well lets say you have both choices available and see what happens:

If you hadn't bailed out the banks: the economic system would have collapsed, people would have lost their homes, recession and unemployment would have been rampant and lots of americans would have lost their savings.

If you choose to bail out the banks: the economic system would have collapsed, people would have lost their homes, recession and unemployment would have been rampant and lots of americans would have lost their savins. Also government debt, would be increased, taxpayer money stolen from them, and bank owners would keep their profits.

Same inevitable result, with the added effect that the bailout also stole money from taxpayers.

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Honey, you and every single other american citizen was scammed by Obama and Biden.

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...All I will say to conclude with the Republicans here is:

from these timeless lyrics -



"You say either and I say either
You say neither and I say neither
Either, either neither, neither
Let's call the whole thing off


"Goodness knows what the end will be
Oh I don't know where I'm at
It looks as if we two will never be one
Something must be done

You say either and I say either
You say neither and I say neither
Either, either neither, neither
Let's call the whole thing off

You like potato and I like potahto
You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto
Let's call the whole thing off
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...All I will say to conclude with the Republicans here is:
Its very easy for anyone to see that Obama's reforms didn't help anyone but wallstreet executives. There was a huge economic crisis despite his measures - because these were never meant to alleviate the economy.

Sorry but Obama, and his minion Biden, scammed you all.

And now, you might be among those who'll probably vote for Biden next november. Because you'd rather cover your eyes than accept the reality of your false idols.
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Its very easy for anyone to see that Obama's reforms didn't help anyone but wallstreet executives. There was a huge economic crisis despite his measures - because these were never meant to alleviate the economy.

Sorry but Obama, and his minion Biden, scammed you all.

And now, you might be among those who'll probably vote for Biden next november. Because you'd rather cover your eyes than accept the reality of your false idols.

I don't know your country of origin, but most Americans are / were greatly relieved their life long savings were not threatened because of Mr. Obama's heroic efforts during that awful time. Both my grandparents and my parents lived (as young teens) during that awful Great Depression. I heard first hand the horror of it
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I don't know your country of origin, but most Americans are / were greatly relieved their life long savings were not threatened because of Mr. Obama's heroic efforts during that awful time. Both my grandparents and my parents lived (as young teens) during that awful Great Depression. I heard first hand the horror of it
Problem is a lot of people did loose their savings. In fact the large majority of the working class individuals lost a lot. The bank bailout didn't stop that from happening - because it wasn't meant to do that. Truth is the large majority of individuals who were able to keep their savings, was mostly due to insurance companies.

The bailout was just additional theft, so bankers (and politicians) could keep the profits by liquifying what assets remained from those banks. This is how most of them got rich out of the 2008 financial crisis. This is why the large majority of banks went bankrupt and were either merged or bought by other entities. The bailout accomplished nothing at all.
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Problem is a lot of people did loose their savings. In fact the large majority of the working class individuals lost a lot. The bank bailout didn't stop that from happening - because it wasn't meant to do that. Truth is the large majority of individuals who were able to keep their savings, was mostly due to insurance companies.

The bailout was just additional theft, so bankers (and politicians) could keep the profits by liquifying what assets remained from those banks. This is how most of them got rich out of the 2008 financial crisis. This is why the large majority of banks went bankrupt and were either merged or bought by other entities. The bailout accomplished nothing at all.
Kept the Saturnian structure intact. We need it, until something better comes around.

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So Biden is leading. Not over yet, but so far no Malarkey for the Bern it seems.

It looks like your country is rejecting communism.
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So Biden is leading. Not over yet, but so far no Malarkey for the Bern it seems.

It looks like your country is rejecting communism.
Is it "communist" for the Federal government to use tax dollars to defray the exorbitant cost of higher education and health care?
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Is it "communist" for the Federal government to use tax dollars to defray the exorbitant cost of higher education and health care?

I'm rather certain, the folks on Fox (all multi-millionaires of course) would say "darn tootin it is!" or "Yes".


Yet at the same time do not seem to give a hoot if its Billions for Farmers, twice , three times now? And who else in the wealthier areas of life get the "free Tax care?" at the expense of the rest of us who aren't in the 5%?
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Is it "fascist" to require all taxpayers to fund wars they believe shouldn't be waged by this nation?

There was a movement that would have enabled taxpayers to check a box stipulating where they wanted their dollars to go, and where they didn't want them to go. Voting with your taxes!
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Is it "fascist" to require all taxpayers to fund wars they believe shouldn't be waged by this nation?

There was a movement that would have enabled taxpayers to check a box stipulating where they wanted their dollars to go, and where they didn't want them to go. Voting with your taxes!



Sounds like an excellent idea to me, but I won't hold my breath waiting for it to appear. That would be foolhardy.
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As Dirius just pointed out, the connection between a capitalistic "social-safety-net", funded by a capitalistic tax system, is often equated with a communistic system in which the government owns the means of production and distribution of goods and services.

Bernie wants to reform the tax system within the framework of a CAPITALISTIC economy, and distribute the money from the "have-mores", (like himself), to the "don't-have-enoughs", (like students who have to take out high interest loans to pay for college, and those who lose all they own to pay for medical treatment).

Problem is, this is too easily labeled "communist", even by those who would benefit. And, STRONGLY opposed by the most of the have-mores now indisputably running the country--that's the REAL "Deep State"!
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What I've been asking around (like on Twitter and elsewhere), for the Joe Biden is my man fans; is what is Joe Biden's Plan B for Obamacare, i.e. A.C.A.?



The Supreme Court will very likely toss out the ACA as unconstitutional, which is what a lower Federal Court in Texas did, but the Supreme Court said it won't be until AFTER the November Elections, (gives trump plenty of cover for fall out), that their opinion will be read.



Plan "B" anyone? Remember, if uninsured and can't afford the medicine people aren't fully covered in the future, then EVERYONE is at risk, such as with coronavirus. Everyone's schoolkids, everyone's neighbors, everyone in the country.


“As Texas and the Trump Administration fight to disrupt our healthcare system and the coverage that millions rely upon, we look forward to making our case in defense of the ACA. American lives depend upon it,” Becerra said in a statement.


https://www.djournal.com/news/nation...b307d4b56.html




I heard Biden say something about "tweaking" Obamacare was his entire platform for Health Care for the citizens of this country.



As for communistic, claptrap (I call it), its just a means for people who fear change to look at the real issues. Inequality being the largest in this country.

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In keeping with the theme of this thread, the problem is two-fold:

First, the office of President was originally only one facet of the "three Branches of Government". But, beginning with FDR, it gained supremacy over the the legislative and judicial branches, giving ANY President the POTENTIAL to become a dictator.

Second, in Trump, we do have a President ready, willing, and able to take full advantage of this potential. He's not even hiding that fact! So, it's necessary to remove him from office to ensure the survival of our DemocratIc-Republic while there's still time.

That's regardless of whether one approves or disapproves of his policies. I do realize that if one does approve of his policies, and/or is enamored of his personality and style of governing, its very difficult to realize the danger he poses to our nation under the guidelines of the Constitution.
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What I've been asking around (like on Twitter and elsewhere), for the Joe Biden is my man fans; is what is Joe Biden's Plan B for Obamacare, i.e. A.C.A.?



The Supreme Court will very likely toss out the ACA as unconstitutional, which is what a lower Federal Court in Texas did, but the Supreme Court said it won't be until AFTER the November Elections, (gives trump plenty of cover for fall out), that their opinion will be read.



Plan "B" anyone? Remember, if uninsured and can't afford the medicine people aren't fully covered in the future, then EVERYONE is at risk, such as with coronavirus. Everyone's schoolkids, everyone's neighbors, everyone in the country.


“As Texas and the Trump Administration fight to disrupt our healthcare system and the coverage that millions rely upon, we look forward to making our case in defense of the ACA. American lives depend upon it,” Becerra said in a statement.


https://www.djournal.com/news/nation...b307d4b56.html




I heard Biden say something about "tweaking" Obamacare was his entire platform for Health Care for the citizens of this country.



As for communistic, claptrap (I call it), its just a means for people who fear change to look at the real issues. Inequality being the largest in this country.
Obama gets the credit for putting SOME version of national healthcare into place; and, especially for preventing the Health Insurance Industry from using "preexisting conditions" as reason to jack up the cost of a premium, or to deny coverage altogether.

Trump initially was going to remove the restriction against the preexisting conditions clause, but was forced to flip flop on that issue.

What Obama was up against, were the VERY wealthy, powerful and well-organized health insurance providers. Bernie would have the same insurmountable problem, if he attempted to cut them out of the health insurance marketplace.

The only way to make it work in lieu of MUCH higher taxes on the wealthiest, was to MANDATE that the younger, healthier taxpayers buy a policy from a private insurer. It's been estimated that this method has so far saved the Treasury about 3 TRILLION dollars in revenue.

New Hampshire and Virginia are the only two States that don't mandate vehicle insurance by private companies. If we have to pay for insurance we may not need for that purpose, is it wrong to require it for our bodily health as well? I don't really like the idea, but if it's the only way to have a functional health-care system, I feel it's necessary.

What's Trump's plan for making a national health-care system work without higher taxes or purchasing mandates?

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Has the shares for self tanning and Botox increased since trumperty trump
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Not unless he owns stock in those companies.
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Lmao there’s probably some truth in that answer!
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Is it "communist" for the Federal government to use tax dollars to defray the exorbitant cost of higher education and health care?
It is. Higher education isn't a service, its a commodity which benefits you, and only you.

Why should other hardworking people, lets say the plumber who fixes your toilet, who did not attend college have to pay for your children's special education? They shouldn't.

The way commies avoid answering this problem is by stating that "only the rich" would pay, which is always and outright lie.

Communists in my country say the same thing, and they say only the rich would pay for it. But because my country is poor, there aren't many rich people, and even those don't make that much money in comparison to a rich person from the U.S. - yet education has the same costs.

So guess who pays for socialised higher education so some leftist kid can study philosophy? Every poor hard-working person.

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Is it "fascist" to require all taxpayers to fund wars they believe shouldn't be waged by this nation?

There was a movement that would have enabled taxpayers to check a box stipulating where they wanted their dollars to go, and where they didn't want them to go. Voting with your taxes!
It is actually, that is why in a republic such as yours, only congress can declare wars -

Trump hasn't declared any wars. In fact so far he has been more anti-war than any other president, and unexpectedly has made more progress when it comes to peace talks with many nations.
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So what? They aren't running the country, and they weren't elected.



The many countries where this type of Universality of Health care works best, and perhaps we can model after, (Canada, UK) has government paid doctors is my understanding.



Physicians and Surgeons in the UK do not make millions of Dollars as they do today, off the bad luck of patients who need their services but its still above average living. Hospitals, Clinics and HMO CEOs do not make multi-million dollar bonuses each year there. Only here do they make that much. We went on a trip to Egypt-Jordan one year, (watched the video again last night looking for Jordan photos of Mt.Nebo ), and saw this couple again, we vacationed with and ate dinner with nightly.
A comedian, (like about 50ish, with his much much older wife? girlfriend?....can't recall, but what I do recall is she was extremely wealthy, (of course Republicans) from Florida where he does routines in clubs. She was about 80ish, looked good with multiple surgeries, (maybe a PalmBeach matron)...AND more germane to this post - She is a retired CEO of United Health Care.


Well, her husband was entertaining, so we ate with them. He was funny in his "routine" that is. This was back in 2009.



Insurance companies are in the business to make as much profit as possible by charging the Highest premium they can get away with, and then denying as many claims as possible.



Why do Americans insist on a program in which high paid bookkeepers are ultimately in charge of their health care each year? They'll always find ways to jack up the prices, year after year, after skimming the top (bonuses) and then justifying more increased out of line profits for themselves.



Did you ever get a bill for over $30,000.00 for one week in a hospital and they did essentially nothing but room & board for the week? I did. And that was in the year 2000 20 years ago! That, btw, did NOT include the one week worth of doctors who popped in and out to see the patient (me) for about 2 min. max. Add another $1,000 at least for them.



Today one knee replacement in 2017 cost about $17,000. hospital, anesthesiologist for one overnight visit only. In otherwords, they get you up after the operation, see that you can make it, and you are discharged the next day. I can dig out the statement again later this week, if you want to see it. These bills are quite honestly, unbelievable, but maybe I"m just from the old days.



Today, my husband 's doctor for a prostrate issue sent a bill to our HMO through Medicare Advantage. In other words, the same cost to everyone, whether you have insurance or not, or whether you have medicare of not. He does all patients. the cost for a 30 minute in office procedure? (we were home in one hour, btw including recovery time).....Cost? over $18,000.00 (Medicare paid less then 1/2 of that), but STILL!!!! (he laughed and told us he does 6-8 of them per day)


I don't think I'll ever fully recover from the shock of this Greed! I think of all those other poor men crowding his office, day after day (he's younger & personable too), the first guy was even greedier and worse, but supposedly, "the best surgeon in Phoenix" we were told. This one is better and nicer, but talk about COST. This then, IS the going rate.
Other men better beware IF you have prostrate issues when older, because this IS the type of service, care & COST you will face.



Now the Anesthesiologist just sent bills in separately (even though in office procedure) and my husband wasn't knocked out or anything -) guess how much HE wants separately? $2,000. or more. The HMO posted "DENIED" all over the charges. I have no idea if he'll just pursue it now.Probably, they usually do.


You may recall or not what Mitt Romney, a Republican multi-millionaire hopeful for President a few years ago running against Obama's 2nd term said about this don't you? When someone asked about what he and his family would do with no insurance and got sick?.....Romney the good Mormon said, "Just call 911 and an ambulance will come and they'll deliver you right to the emergency room of the hospital".





I almost spit out my popcorn, then and there!


https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/

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Would Congress and the Senate agree to sign off on significantly higher taxes that would affect themselves and their cohorts? That's what it would take to implement Single-payer, Medicare-funded health services. One-third of the members of Congress are millionaires, as well as about half of the Senators. Democrats are in collusion with Republicans when it comes to enacting massive tax-cuts for the wealthiest.

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Would Congress and the Senate agree to sign off on significantly higher taxes that would affect themselves and their cohorts? That's what it would take to implement Single-payer, Medicare-funded health services. One-third of the members of Congress are millionaires, as well as about half of the Senators. Democrats are in collusion with Republicans when it comes to enacting massive tax-cuts for the wealthiest.
By George, he's got it!! Just as Bernie's been saying for YEARS now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDSPwexlyTo



tonight on Rachel Maddow Show (you can read or see it tomorrow on her web site MSNBC) if you missed it, he said 4 things that Joe Biden did with voting and lobbying for, which is completely disturbing to him obviously. I recall of course one being Iraq. The worse disaster since Vietnam.

Perhaps 5?
Another was he lobbied & voted for getting Bankers out of facing bankruptcies (for their own sins) during the financial crisis I think. He explained once again, (ad-nauseum) how the DNC is in bed with the corporate world. Worth watching if one isn't clear on this afterall. So when those who say, Bernie is disruptive to the DNC and the Democratic party, I think I'd have to agree. The bankers love Joe Biden & HRC. The stock market recovered today nicely.
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By George, he's got it!! Just as Bernie's been saying for YEARS now.

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tonight on Rachel Maddow Show (you can read or see it tomorrow on her web site MSNBC) if you missed it, he said 4 things that Joe Biden did with voting and lobbying for, which is completely disturbing to him obviously. I recall of course one being Iraq. The worse disaster since Vietnam.

Perhaps 5?
Another was he lobbied & voted for getting Bankers out of facing bankruptcies (for their own sins) during the financial crisis I think. He explained once again, (ad-nauseum) how the DNC is in bed with the corporate world. Worth watching if one isn't clear on this afterall. So when those who say, Bernie is disruptive to the DNC and the Democratic party, I think I'd have to agree. The bankers love Joe Biden & HRC. The stock market recovered today nicely.
We can survive one term of Biden, if that's what it takes to fire Trump.
Are you really convinced that Sanders can beat him, with the "Commie" sign they'll stick on his back?
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Are you really convinced that Sanders can beat him, with the "Commie" sign they'll stick on his back?
Agreed, we can survive. I suppose.


Now, as for Bernie vs Trump? In 2016 the polls said he could have... Not sure what makes 2020 so different from then.



Its only the uneducated people who believe in the "commie" accusation. (imo) More schooled college educated people respect Democratic Socialism from what I read.
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Agreed, we can survive. I suppose.


Now, as for Bernie vs Trump? In 2016 the polls said he could have... Not sure what makes 2020 so different from then.



Its only the uneducated people who believe in the "commie" accusation. (imo) More schooled college educated people respect Democratic Socialism from what I read.
If Biden does become the nominee, his victory over Trump just might require Sanders' endorsement. Is Bernie capable of actively urging his supporters to vote for Biden, and not just stay home?

I'm of course hoping that Biden will do the same for Sanders, if he gets the nomination.

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