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Western chart vs Vedic natal chart

I am beginning to take a interest in Vedic astrology but I'm buffled.
When I created a Vedic natal chart, not only my Asc changed, Moon, Saturn, Mercury and Venus sign changed. Is this norm?


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Re: Western chart vs Vedic natal chart

Yes, that is normal.


Most "vedic" astrologers use sidereal zodiac, and most western use tropical (though not all - it's really more correct to say tropical vs sidereal chart)


Unless your planets or points are late degrees of the sign it is likely they will all shift back one.
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Yes, that is normal.


Most "vedic" astrologers use sidereal zodiac, and most western use tropical (though not all - it's really more correct to say tropical vs sidereal chart)


Unless your planets or points are late degrees of the sign it is likely they will all shift back one.
The Moon appears to be a possible exception to the standard shift-back Ayansmsa degrees from Tropical. Is this correct?
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Re: Western chart vs Vedic natal chart

My sun, moon and venus are all mid degrees between 14-18 and all shifted to the previous sign.


I think Western natal chart Asc describes more of my physical appearance than Vedic natal chart.



I am confused what I should tell my sun sign from now on.
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My Moon is also mid position in Tropical Aquarius. I was told that in Vedic, it was still in Aquarius. Which was because the Moon is tracked differently than the Sun and Planets. I read descriptions of a Vedic Moon in Capricorn, and that didn't fit me at all, but Vedic Moon in Aquarius fit perfectly.
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My sun, moon and venus are all mid degrees between 14-18 and all shifted to the previous sign.


I think Western natal chart Asc describes more of my physical appearance than Vedic natal chart.



I am confused what I should tell my sun sign from now on.
Think of it as a different angle of view, rather than that only one type of Astrology is the only one that works. But, once you've identified in one, it's usually difficult to change over and identify in another. Vedic is more complex than Tropical or Western Sidereal. Simply naming your Sun-sign differently would be inaccurate.
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Re: Western chart vs Vedic natal chart

mnn I am awfully confused now.
My Rashi chart created with Solar Fire and Kala (website below) is different.


http://vaultoftheheavens.com/VOTH_Ch...r/Welcome.aspx


In fact, Kala's Rashi is the same as the Western natal chart.
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mnn I am awfully confused now.
My Rashi chart created with Solar Fire and Kala (website below) is different.


http://vaultoftheheavens.com/VOTH_Ch...r/Welcome.aspx


In fact, Kala's Rashi is the same as the Western natal chart.
Vedic is a lifelong study.
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Re: Western chart vs Vedic natal chart

david,
Do you have any advice for someone who has almost all the malefic planets in the chart? What is the purpose of living such life where nothing can be accomplished? May be the purpose IS to live an evil life?


Sun is L8 (malefic) and with Saturn (malefic)

Moon is waning (malefic) and in malefic sign.

Mercury is debilitated.
Mars in fall.
Even benefic like Jupiter is L12 so that's malefic too.
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Vedic is a lifelong study.
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david,
Do you have any advice for someone who has almost all the malefic planets in the chart? What is the purpose of living such life where nothing can be accomplished? May be the purpose IS to live an evil life?


Sun is L8 (malefic) and with Saturn (malefic)

Moon is waning (malefic) and in malefic sign.

Mercury is debilitated.
Mars in fall.
Even benefic like Jupiter is L12 so that's malefic too.
It seems what you are doing here is just modern western astrology with a sidereal zodiac. That's not how vedic astrology works. Research shadbala, ashatakavarga and vargas for a start. If it's too overwhelming, then maybe begin with researching traditional western astrology first.
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