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View Poll Results: Does my appearance resemble a late Pisces Ascendant or an early Aries Ascendant?
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Alright, It's not really related to the rectification itself, but it's still very important to clarify it.

The Pluto ingress is not a good checkpoint for a rectification and there are many reasons for it.

He may be a cute lil' strong planet, but:

1) It's a slow planet! Even if touches a key point in your chart, such as the ascendant or mid-heaven, the influence will still take years until you see it. It's like 'they don't even know what hit them', If I may use this phrase.
I believe this precisely is why all trans-Saturnian planets are good rectification tools; their slow movement means that one can more precisely determine one's Ascendant or Midheaven degree.

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2) It's lonely! It needs a healthy triple transit for a sudden influence, and I don't mean just Mercury, Mars, Venus or Sun with a Moon activating. A planet like Pluto for a nice triple transit must have at least one strong aspect ( conjunct, square, etc ) with a Jupiter or Saturn, otherwise the triple transit won't have enough force for a sudden event.

Pluto is a strong planet, but without help from other planets to magnify it's influence, the events will be slow, invisible, scattered and collateral. Just imagine other planets being a magnifying glass.
I'll look into this further, but I assure you that I did not use Pluto's ingress into Capricorn as the sole basis of my chart rectification. I simply provided it as an example.

To utilize your advice, there were many transits on an important day in 2004:

Uranus conjunct NN
Uranus conjunct Ascendant (in rectified chart)
Pluto conjunct Midheaven (in rectified chart)
Pluto opposite Mars
Sun/Mercury conjunction opposite natal Sun/Venus/Mercury conjunction and square natal Saturn/Neptune conjunction
Mars/Jupiter conjunction opposite natal Moon and square natal Uranus

So, yes, there were inner planets coupled with Mars and Jupiter.

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3) It's a transpersonal planet! Remember the phrase 'they don't even know what hit them'. Pluto has a more materialized effect on people who live on Pluto archetypes, like chemists, detectives, priests, magicians, people who deal with the unknown, the invisible, the occult and the spiritual. For someone who doesn't deal with these, Pluto has a even a lesser influence on them, because they are not tapped with the planet. ( Yeah people will probably reply to me with " Do you even know in what forum you're replying you jerk ?! " )

Pluto is an invisible planet, it does make events, but nobody notices it, only the ones sensitive enough.
Although I do not have any of these occupations, I believe I am affiliated with Pluto because I have this planet in Scorpio in my eighth house; it also is the apex planet of a yod configuration which involves my natal Sun-Venus-Mercury conjunction and Mars.

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If you want to look at what could Pluto do directly, look for a Jupiter and a Saturn, does it make any important aspects ?
Are you referring to natal aspects, or those formed by transiting planets?

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I sometimes think you need to wait until Saturn makes a conjunct with Pluto in Capricorn ( or at least a square from Libra ) OR that Uranus/Jupiter on Aries that is right now too see if you can notice any important events.
That Uranus/Jupiter conjunction in Aries is another good indicator that I do not have an early Aries Ascendant. I'll see if anything happens once these planets conjoin my natal Moon, but my life is incredibly tranquil at the moment--almost boring. This may change once I experience my first Uranus square, however.

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After you found that Jupiter and Saturn, then look for the smaller one like Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and Moon. ( well you know these already, I am just repeating myself )
Can you clarify your instructions a bit?

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Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are transpersonals, meaning they are invisible, Uranus being the least and hey Jupiter is with Uranus already and in Aries. Uranus would make a better candidate to focus on, he is much more sudden in events and closer to your natal personal planets in Aries. Pluto is more difficult to spot now, more hidden and it needs more patience for a rectification. Maybe Saturn in Libra square Pluto might indicate something too, but Saturn in Capricorn might prove more important in the future.
This is fair enough, but I believe Uranus aspected my Ascendant and/or Midheaven during several important life events.

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Also the Pluto events years back could also be attributed to Uranus being on your North Node.
True, the drama began to unfold when transiting Uranus was conjunct my natal North Node, but in my rectified chart, Uranus was approaching my Ascendant. I believe such significant life-altering events I experienced during this time must reflect something more personal than Uranus conjunct my North Node. I have many friends who were born within a few weeks or months of me, so we have similar nodal placements. However, I was the only one who experienced such significant life events that my entire high school discussed the possible reasons for my abrupt absence and concocted vicious rumors regarding my personal life. Of course, all the rumors my friends ventured to tell me were untrue.

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

I didn't notice your edits yet. I'll re-read.

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Can you clarify your instructions a bit?
We have trans-personals planets ( Pluto, Neptune, Uranus )
We have social planets ( Saturn, Jupiter )
We have personal planets ( Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon )
We have trigger planets ( Sun, Moon )

A transpersonal planet for a sudden event it needs a social planet to materialize. Then the social planet needs a personal planet to materialize onward. The event will activated by trigger planets, which by default is either Moon or Sun.

The idea is that transpersonals planets need an intermediary for a faster, more sudden influence, otherwise we won't notice it's influence.
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Are you referring to natal aspects, or those formed by transiting planets?
It's a bit weird. Pluto conjuncts a supposedly mid-heaven or any important place in your natal chart. It needs a third party from the transit, such as Saturn squaring Pluto from the transit, which puts more pressure on that mid-heaven or any other natal point making an event even more precise.

Saturn channels it's extra energy on Pluto in transit, while Pluto conjuncts natal mid-heaven with Saturn helping. This is in theory, I don't know if that square even happen.

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I assure you that I did not use Pluto's ingress into Capricorn as the sole basis of my chart rectification. I simply provided it as an example.
I know, I'm not against the rectification. It's just my 2 cents about Pluto.

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

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Yes, I agree that I'm very Arian in both appearance and mannerisms. Have you read my introductory post, which states that I have my natal Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Aries in the first house?
No, Actually...

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This is one of the reasons why chart rectification was so difficult, in my case.
Yes for sure....

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I have had my natal chart rectified by two independent sources, and both agree that I have a Pisces Ascendant. Ironically, neither option on this poll is correct--I have a Pisces Ascendant in the first decanate of Pisces (7 Pisces), not a late Pisces Ascendant!
May be I should check my chart as well...


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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

29 degrees Pisces.

You don't have the soft, dreamy eyes of your brother but Neptune makes a lot more sense as your chart ruler than Mars.

You can't take the moon away from the ascendant, because then we would have no way of explaining your curvy figure.

Dolly Parton has her virgo moon conjunct ascendant. I'm not comparing you to Dolly, but your measurements probably aren't too far off. I couldn't find a Pisces ascendant celebrity with a comparable body type but admittedly my search wasn't thorough. You may have better luck than I did.

If you re-read this thread, you may notice yourself becoming defensive when anyone suggests that you're an Aries ascendant. It is not a good idea to start a thread requiring honest feedback if you're only willing to accept one answer.

I would also like to put it out there not knowing your ascendant may be a part of your "lessons" and you shouldn't view it so much as a curse than perhaps as as an opportunity for growth and an exercise in patience.

I still maintain that no mortal can rectify a chart with exact certainty and one hundred percent accuracy without possessing some sort of spiritual recall. But I also believe that the person who worked on your chart to be a very good and capable astrologer.

I just don't agree with his final results. It would mean that I am wrong and we both know that simply isn't possible
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I don't want to burst your bubble lady but you are pisces! That blunt smile and those transparent eyes! And I'm mad that you are all using the good name of Aries which is a strong masculine sign to represent this girl. YOU ARE NOT ARIES AND YOU WILL NEVER WILL BE! First of all i don't want to sound all arrogant but you have such a wird body and a doll face. Being Aries is not a party gift. You have to be born this way. And yes I'm Aries rising if you are asking yourself. I can't belive people are so blind and dumb. They confused Aries with you! You have pisces written all over you. Weak and pathetic! I'm so mad! Aries is strong and is driving attention, people notice you if you are Aries and I can walk beside you and not even notice you! I think you are angry because you look so weird and you are trying to make your life better by thinking you are Aries! Well i have news for you! Being Aries doesn't make you better or more beutiful. You have to be strong and brave. I'm not saying being Aries is perfect some of as are really jerks. I'm mean just because astrology is saying that Aries is all perfect evert moron out there who is Aries thinks he is a god. I have seen such weak examples of Ares that I wanna puke. But you are not Aries! And every body wants to be Aries because they think it will make their life better! Well it's not going to be better unless you are willing to fight your weaknesses and be better, no rising sign will help you if you are weak. So to sum up you are not Aries. I'm Aries rising:
Ascendant 0°56' Aries and you are probably: "29°40' Pisces". See http://www.astrotheme.com/symbolic_degrees.php for more detail. And also you others who are thinking she is Aries (?!) should have a look to! You don't know **** about astrology! You are trying to make her feel better! I mean look at her! And one more thing i heard like a hundred stories about people saying like "oh i'm libra rising but i act and look like a scorpio" There is no great influence if you are on the cusp of a sign! If you have like 29 degrees libra you are libra! Granted there is some scorpio influence but very little! If you actually feel and look like a scorpio then you have your birth time wrong! It can be wrong even if the time they wrote is right, what i mean is that maybe the clock wasn't set right so they can rob you of a couple of minutes! And i'm sorry i have been so hars but this is reality. Not a dream land. But she is still pisces. She doesn't look like an Aries. Not in a million years! Also see http://www.astrotheme.com/files/asce...and_health.php

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

You are an Aries Rising with any doubt for me
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Calm down Red Hood! I created this thread two years ago, and since then I've had two astrologers rectify my natal chart to Pisces Ascendant. Nevertheless, I still have a first house Aries stellium consisting entirely of personal planets--the Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus--so I am perplexed that you resent that I identify myself as Arian.

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I'm mean just because astrology is saying that Aries is all perfect evert moron out there who is Aries thinks he is a god.
I actually tend to be very defensive about the attributes of Aries; I don't think the common description sounds "perfect" at all. Whatever my screen name may imply--I created it six years ago, originally Aquarian Maverick but changed when I discovered my correct time of birth--I want to have less Aries in my natal chart. I was pleased when my natal chart was rectified to a Pisces Ascendant. Of course, I still forever seek others' input, which is why I haven't requested this thread to close.

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It can be wrong even if the time they wrote is right, what i mean is that maybe the clock wasn't set right so they can rob you of a couple of minutes!
This is the conclusion I arrived at, as well. I created this thread because only a three-minute delay in recording my time of birth results in a Pisces Ascendant.

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Look your first house is not Aries. Your asc. is pisces so your first house is pisces. The astrologer you mentioned should know that. Second i'm sorry for my behavior. And third pisces are not so bad. That stellium you mentioned is only occuring when your sun is in Aries. Personal planets move around the sun so they have to be close by. I saw some examples where venus can go to a completly different sign but stellium shoud only occur in the sign where the sun is positioned.
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Look your first house is not Aries. Your asc. is pisces so your first house is pisces. The astrologer you mentioned should know that.
Do you use Whole Sign House system? If so, then yes, my Aries stellium would be located in the second whole sign house. But in most house systems, my Aries stellium is located within the first house even if the Ascendant is not in Aries.

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Second i'm sorry for my behavior.
Apology accepted. No hard feelings!

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That stellium you mentioned is only occuring when your sun is in Aries. Personal planets move around the sun so they have to be close by. I saw some examples where venus can go to a completly different sign but stellium shoud only occur in the sign where the sun is positioned.
My Sun is in Aries, at 15 degrees, and Mercury and Venus are within one degree of it. The Moon is not quite within ten degrees of the Sun, but the lights often utilize larger orbs, anyway, so I consider all of these planets to be conjunct. I am confident this configuration is considered to be a stellium.

Here is my (unrectified) natal chart:



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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

And just for the sake of argument, for a girl that doesn't like Aries you sure do talk a lot about that stellium in this thread. Like you deep down wanna be Aries. And you don't need input, you are pisces and if you like that sign even better. And ascendant is who you are. Planets like the sun and all other have a due date. They don't last for ever but ascendant is what you truly are. So why do you want to hear people saying you are Aries if you wanna have less influence by that sign. And you shoud change you username to Pisces Maverick. And besides pisces is a really reat sign.
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Do you use Whole Sign House system? If so, then yes, my Aries stellium would be located in the second whole sign house. But in most house systems, my Aries stellium is located within the first house even if the Ascendant is not in Aries.



Apology accepted. No hard feelings!



My Sun is in Aries, at 15 degrees, and Mercury and Venus are within one degree of it. The Moon is not quite within ten degrees of the Sun, but the lights often utilize larger orbs, anyway, so I consider all of these planets to be conjunct. I am confident this configuration is considered to be a stellium.

Here is my (unrectified) natal chart:



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Well since your sun is in Aries than you have a lot influence by that sign. You should be proud! It's a nice natal chart!
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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

But you still got me confused about that first house thing. The asc. house is allways the first ( no matter which system you use) and the chart you have posted is not the real one. Maybe you have a stellium of stars but is not in your first house.
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And just for the sake of argument, for a girl that doesn't like Aries you sure do talk a lot about that stellium in this thread. Like you deep down wanna be Aries. And you don't need input, you are pisces and if you like that sign even better. And ascendant is who you are. Planets like the sun and all other have a due date. They don't last for ever but ascendant is what you truly are. So why do you want to hear people saying you are Aries if you wanna have less influence by that sign. And you shoud change you username to Pisces Maverick. And besides pisces is a really reat sign.
I felt I needed to remind people that I have an Aries stellium in this thread because most people detected an Aries influence in my appearance. Without the knowledge that I already have a heavy emphasis upon this sign, they may have assumed automatically that I have an Aries Ascendant. For me, the question never was "Do I look Arian?" The question was "Do I look Arian enough to have Ascendant, Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Aries?"

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So why do you want to hear people saying you are Aries if you wanna have less influence by that sign.
I did not want to hear other people suggest that I have an Aries Ascendant; as another member observed, I tended to argue with anyone who did! With the perspective of time, I can admit that I created this thread because I sought others' confirmation that my intuition was correct, that I have a Pisces Ascendant.

Nevertheless, you may be correct that "deep down [I] wanna be Aries." I possess many obvious surface-level Arian characteristics, but I feel I lack the truer essential qualities of bravery and optimism.

I hope you don't mind if we conclude this conversation here or continue through private message. I'm beginning to feel a bit too self-indulgent commenting so many times on my own thread.

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

You do look less bold and direct than most Aries-asc Ive seen... and you definitely have that sweet Pisces glow about you..

But oh no, I always imagined you were a man with all of the strong energy you give off.. !!
(Ive been lurking this site for months.. lol)

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Please focus on the topic for discussion and give your opinion only. Do not attack the OP or try to force your opinion onto others. State your opinion, back it up with astrology, and leave the personal remarks out of it. I will continue to delete any off-topic remarks.

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

Did you ever find out which one you were Arian M? I think there is a great difference between those ascendants and you should be able to tell just from your personal characteristics which one you are.

I am Pisces rising at 19-00, and judging by this pic you can clearly see the Pisces influence ..i think by this example people can see you can spot us a mile off . However cancer rising looks similar...
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Did you ever find out which one you were Arian M? I think there is a great difference between those ascendants and you should be able to tell just from your personal characteristics which one you are.

I am Pisces rising at 19-00, and judging by this pic you can clearly see the Pisces influence ..i think by this example people can see you can spot us a mile off . However cancer rising looks similar...

You need to realize that the physic description of a rising lays within the decanate of the sign that is on the asce. Then you need to do temperament check that takes time. you can look 1 sign but totally be something else because of your decanate of the rising sign and if there are any planets that are extremly close to asce or aspecting asce from the angles
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Sorry Tikana..i did not realize to that extent, i thought the decan made only a slight difference - if Arian M WAS Pisces asc then technically she'd be extremely typical of the sign at least in the outer persona if we go by that theory too - as i do know that the closer you are to 0 degrees the more typical you tend to exemplify the traits of whatever rising sign you are.

As in me in the Cancer decan adds simply more 'roundness', than first decan Pisces.
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Sorry Tikana..i did not realize to that extent, i thought the decan made only a slight difference - if Arian M WAS Pisces asc then technically she'd be extremely typical of the sign at least in the outer persona if we go by that theory too - as i do know that the closer you are to 0 degrees the more typical you tend to exemplify the traits of whatever rising sign you are.

As in me in the Cancer decan adds simply more 'roundness', than first decan Pisces.
i disagree with you on " as i do know that the closer you are to 0 degrees the more typical you tend to exemplify the traits of whatever rising sign you are. "

ArianM has been gone from this forum in years
I cannot remmeber what she looks like. i think we discussed her asce via pm

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

Well you can disagree if you choose - but this is actually a well known touted fact in astrology- the closer one is to 0 degrees in the ascendant the more they tend to be very typical of the ascendants characteristics, hence the Pisces - Pisces first decan energy (as an example). At 29 degrees (the artic degree) a lot of the signs energy flows into the following sign (a lot but not all).

As i saw an astrologer who was also a clairvoyant - i told him my ascendant and he agreed it was Pisces but guessed (accurately) it was not in the first decan as i came across with some 'Arian' energy (which is when it is moving towards the later degrees.
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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

Hi Arian,

My opinion is definitely Aries ascendant.
As you already know, the ascendant gives you your looks and it also reveals the things others feel/see in you at first look.
Water ascendants give a sort of calm, deep and dark traits [just like water], black hair, black eyes, inspire calmness and deepness.
I hope i did not dissapoint you, fire is good too.
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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

My vote is for Aries.
My daughter has an Aries AC






Well she has a Pisces moon though which might affect her looks. But she is solidly an Aries AC. She has very piercing blue eyes and a prominent nose. Also, her hair is dyed, it is actually naturally blonde. Why she dyes it I don't know. She also does something to her eyebrows to make them darker than they are.

This is an in between shade she did, which is closer to the real color, but still way darker.

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Re: Does My Appearance Resemble Pisces or Aries Ascendant?

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You need to realize that the physic description of a rising lays within the decanate of the sign that is on the asce... and if there are any planets that are extremly close to asce or aspecting asce from the angles
Glad this thread was revived. I've learned a few things.

How would you describe someone with Aries Sun (28 degrees) with Cancer Asc (3 degrees), and Uranus just one degree away from the Asc but in 12th house?
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