Dr Strangelove
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I think someone already tried to cover this before. But it is something that i'd been obsessed with. And that is, what are the fundamental elements that can be discovered in every (or almost all) natal chart of a funny person.
According to a lot of astrologers, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are key ingredients to develop a "Charming" or "Likeable" personality. But if you think about it, there are a lot of people who are outgoing and friendly, but those are not the ones who are necessarily funny.
I believe there has to be conflict in the character of a particular individual, to create a funny persona. And the two energies i seem to consistently find in almost all natal charts of comedians are Capricorn and Cancer.
This two, working together, e.g. (Capricorn Moon, Moon and Saturn Conjuction, Saturn and Sun Conjuction, Moon and Sun, or any other varieties).
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense... If you first take the Moon (which btw, in spanish is pronounced "Luna", which is at the same time a derivative of "Lunaticus" a latin word used by Romans to describe how when the moon was closer to the earth, more people seem to lose their minds) aka "Lunatics".
And then you have Saturn. The superego, the timid, lonely cerebral who is self conscious, and doesn't get involved with emotions.
When you put the two of them together, the only way both of them can satisfy their own impulse, its through funny.
But how can funniness come from this?
If there's anything that can be said about this two energies, is that they want completely different things, and have completely different ways of asking for them.
The moon wants to call attention to herself, while Saturn is happy if you leave him alone.
The moon wants to connect with others on an emotional level, while Saturn doesn't want to get caught up on any emotional exchange.
The moon wants to behave like a child, Saturn wants to be an adult at all times.
So, how can this two energies function together, and at the same time, feel that they both accomplished what they desire?
The answer is compromise. The moon is allowed to play, but under Saturn conditions.
In any other form of creative entertainment e.g. (music, painting, drama, literature) you tend to connect to it on an emotional level. The musician shows vulnerability by opening himself emotionally through his work, the same goes for the painter, for the writer, and the actor.
But what is a joke, if you think about it? A way of getting attention (Moon), but in a way you don't expose yourself emotionally (Saturn), and distance yourself enough to get the job done, without the risk of getting people too close to see what you really feel and think.
That's why they call it a defence mechanism. And that's why there is no emotional attachement to a joke. It's all an intelectual process (Saturn), that gets to play (Moon) with words and ideas.
Of course, the moon (and perhaps Saturn), end up getting what they both want (i think), and thats the affection of others. But the medium they use to get it is in disguise, cause it would be too risky for them if they'd open up to others in a candid manner.
According to a lot of astrologers, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are key ingredients to develop a "Charming" or "Likeable" personality. But if you think about it, there are a lot of people who are outgoing and friendly, but those are not the ones who are necessarily funny.
I believe there has to be conflict in the character of a particular individual, to create a funny persona. And the two energies i seem to consistently find in almost all natal charts of comedians are Capricorn and Cancer.
This two, working together, e.g. (Capricorn Moon, Moon and Saturn Conjuction, Saturn and Sun Conjuction, Moon and Sun, or any other varieties).
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense... If you first take the Moon (which btw, in spanish is pronounced "Luna", which is at the same time a derivative of "Lunaticus" a latin word used by Romans to describe how when the moon was closer to the earth, more people seem to lose their minds) aka "Lunatics".
And then you have Saturn. The superego, the timid, lonely cerebral who is self conscious, and doesn't get involved with emotions.
When you put the two of them together, the only way both of them can satisfy their own impulse, its through funny.
But how can funniness come from this?
If there's anything that can be said about this two energies, is that they want completely different things, and have completely different ways of asking for them.
The moon wants to call attention to herself, while Saturn is happy if you leave him alone.
The moon wants to connect with others on an emotional level, while Saturn doesn't want to get caught up on any emotional exchange.
The moon wants to behave like a child, Saturn wants to be an adult at all times.
So, how can this two energies function together, and at the same time, feel that they both accomplished what they desire?
The answer is compromise. The moon is allowed to play, but under Saturn conditions.
In any other form of creative entertainment e.g. (music, painting, drama, literature) you tend to connect to it on an emotional level. The musician shows vulnerability by opening himself emotionally through his work, the same goes for the painter, for the writer, and the actor.
But what is a joke, if you think about it? A way of getting attention (Moon), but in a way you don't expose yourself emotionally (Saturn), and distance yourself enough to get the job done, without the risk of getting people too close to see what you really feel and think.
That's why they call it a defence mechanism. And that's why there is no emotional attachement to a joke. It's all an intelectual process (Saturn), that gets to play (Moon) with words and ideas.
Of course, the moon (and perhaps Saturn), end up getting what they both want (i think), and thats the affection of others. But the medium they use to get it is in disguise, cause it would be too risky for them if they'd open up to others in a candid manner.