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Unread 07-29-2014, 10:27 PM
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Can I afford to retire now?

I have been teaching for many years, but I have taken out my retirement money a few times. I am 65 now and would actually like to retire at the end of this month. However, I'm not sure I can support myself with just my teacher retirement pension and Social Security. I do free-lance writing and I also do online selling. I would like to devote more time to these activities. In addition, I have other ideas for creating income and may start a tutoring service. I have no shortage of ideas and am willing to economize and spend less in order to make ends meet.

So, my question is "Can I afford to retire now?"

I don't want to end up having to depend on my sons for support.

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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

before others weigh in, what is your take on the chart?
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

Well, I wish I knew. All I know is my significator is Jupiter in the 8th. I will try to study up on it and come back tomorrow. Thanks for looking.
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

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your 2nd house Saturn worries me a bit.
it is extremely weak. My feeling is No.

Jupiter is peregrine and combust _ a good thing is combustion is separating but that does not disable Jupiter's weakness.

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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

Tikana,

Thank you so much. But I am confused. Saturn is not in the 2nd house. Do you mean it is 2nd house ruler and weak?
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

yea saturn rules 2nd house
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

Lord 2--your finances--is Saturn as mentioned above.

Although peregrine, I don't think this in itself is a negative. We already know you're not super rich, otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question.

I think negative testimony would be to see Lord 2 going down the drain somehow (eg if Saturn were in last degree of Gemini about to lose dignity). Here Saturn is smack dab in the middle of a fixed, fertile sign. So I think in the context of the question this is helpful.

That said, Venus applies to Saturn. Venus is your sons' money. With negative mutual reception.

So I'd judge that you are safe to retire--one must do so at some point and unless you win the lottery your financial situation is unlikely to change much.

And as you predict, your sons will help supplement this at some point. Which you won't like (nor will they). But hey, that's just the way the world works.
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

Thanks so much for those additional observations. My question was specific in regard to THiS month, so maybe I will do better to hold off for 6-12 months and then retire. That will give me time to prepare a little better, pay bills, and save. I think I am a long way from needing financial assistance, and I am very independent, but one never knows what might lie ahead. I like your realistic take on things!
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

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wait a bit.. your saturn L2 ruler does worry me. YES venus does sextile BUT look at the sextile it is weak they both mutually rejecting each other
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

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before others weigh in, what is your take on the chart?
What he may be saying is there are many begging to know but maybe more worthy responses may be given if one shows how much they are trying to answer their own horary queries!




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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

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Excuse me? Did you even read my answer? I find your post quite rude.

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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

What.... why those images?
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wait a bit.. your saturn L2 ruler does worry me. YES venus does sextile BUT look at the sextile it is weak they both mutually rejecting each other
Not sextile, but trine. And yes I agree, not the best of receptions, which I think is consistent with what she's saying.

What kind of chart would say "yes, retire this month?" in your opinion? Lord 2 in exaltation or own sign only?
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

agrh yeah trine .. duh thanks for noticing.. the question is can she afford it.. my call is no but with an aspect...

saturn/venus weak reception hmm same problem. seems like yes will retire regardless but it could point to partial retirement.
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What he may be saying is there are many begging to know but maybe more worthy responses may be given if one shows how much they are trying to answer their own horary queries!




lol, I wouldn't have included these photos but for what it's worth, I do agree with the basic sentiment of your post here.

if you (anyone, generic "you") have a question but don't feel capable of delineating your own chart, then don't cast the chart and post it. go find an astrologer to answer your question and support them financially, if the question truly matters. if not, just keep studying and don't ask yourself unless you're prepared to take responsibility for the judgement.

the chart is meant to be drawn up by the astrologer who is taking the question. when you cast a chart you are taking the role of querent AND astrologer, and your interpretation is going to be critical in how the chart is read. horary falls apart otherwise, and it's why these forums are breeding grounds for faulty technique -- everyone is trying to delineate someone else's chart, which is fine if we're attempting to help in judgment, but so often contributors get it wrong because it wasn't meant for them to judge but for the person who asked. it's a horrible cycle, because then decent, growing horary astrologers feel like their technique is awful because they're getting other people's questions wrong and they end up discouraged.

also, this is a learning forum, and it functions best when people first judge what they can from their own chart before posting.

anyway, Catalina, I'm not having a go at you in any way at all. just sharing my personal views on the virtues and dangers of forums.
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

Maybe start a new thread for this instead of posting on hers. I find it would be more respectful regardless of the 'validity' of your statement.
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

I really don't know who to address this to....

I've been posting on astrology forums for years. Some things I know and some things I don't. I help other people when I feel I have something to offer, but horary is not that easy to learn. To me, a forum is where people learn from each other.

I have paid astrologers before. I'm not against that. These forums are not supposed to be a place where you PAY.

Furthermore, I don't think MY thread is the place for this sort of thing.

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Maybe start a new thread for this instead of posting on hers. I find it would be more respectful regardless of the 'validity' of your statement.
thank you for the feedback. I responded to ensure my intent was clear, as another contributor made comments on my post and I felt clarification was best coming from me. I do not agree that my response belongs in another thread, it belongs here where my original statement was taken up by another contributor. I have no desire to get into any argument, now or ever, on the topic.

regardless, the fact remains that Catalina is the chosen astrologer for this chart as she took the question and cast a chart, and the onus is on her to produce a judgment. all we can do is help. so I state now as I did before my support for Catalina in applying the knowledge she has, coming from a place of positive intent.
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Well, I don't agree with your "opinion". I've been posting on astrology forums for years. Some things I know and some things I don't. I help other people when I feel I have something to offer, but horary is not that easy to learn. To me, a forum is where people learn from each other.

I have paid astrologers before. I'm not against that. These forums are not supposed to be a place where you PAY.

Furthermore, I don't think MY thread is the place for you to post YOUR opinion. Do you do this to other people, too?

Kindly go away and don't come back.
actually, forums are exactly the place to put one's opinion, especially when it relates to the thread (as my comment does). I noticed, Catalina, that your post was edited down to remove the last bit (the original text remains in my quotation above), but as you like.
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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

I changed it because I thought I was addressing the poster who put the pictures up there. I did not realize at first that the post was from you, WCA.

There was no attempt to be devious.

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I changed it because I thought I was addressing the poster who put the pictures up there. I did not realize at first that the post was from you, WCA.

There was no attempt to be devious.
thank you for clarifying, like I said -- I had no malicious intent. I participate on here a lot. and I think you and I have engaged before. I don't believe I've ever given anyone reason to dismiss me from a thread, but I do find it important to provide feedback especially when what's needed is a little encouragement. you have the skills to read your chart, I know you do. let other contributors help guide you when things get stuck, but something in your soul should resonate in this chart. this is a reminder to me, and to all of us, that we're all here to grow together and celebrate the art of horary astrology.
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before others weigh in, what is your take on the chart?
When you say something like this, you assume that I know I should do this first, and I didn't know that. I just thought it was a courteous thing to do. If you had been more clear from the beginning, things would have gone much more smoothly.

For example, you could have said:

"Catalina, in horary, in case you did not know, the astrologer casts the chart. That means you should make an effort to read it yourself since you are the astrologer. After you do that, then others will be happy to help you to make sure you are on the right track."
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thank you for clarifying, like I said -- I had no malicious intent. I participate on here a lot. and I think you and I have engaged before. I don't believe I've ever given anyone reason to dismiss me from a thread, but I do find it important to provide feedback especially when what's needed is a little encouragement. you have the skills to read your chart, I know you do. let other contributors help guide you when things get stuck, but something in your soul should resonate in this chart. this is a reminder to me, and to all of us, that we're all here to grow together and celebrate the art of horary astrology.
Thanks. However, I don't recall ever "engaging" with you before. I'll look around and see, though.

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Re: Can I afford to retire now?

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I really don't know who to address this to....

I've been posting on astrology forums for years. Some things I know and some things I don't. I help other people when I feel I have something to offer, but horary is not that easy to learn. To me, a forum is where people learn from each other.

I have paid astrologers before. I'm not against that. These forums are not supposed to be a place where you PAY.

Furthermore, I don't think MY thread is the place for this sort of thing.


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actually, forums are exactly the place to put one's opinion, especially when it relates to the thread (as my comment does). I noticed, Catalina, that your post was edited down to remove the last bit (the original text remains in my quotation above), but as you like.


Who would one rather discuss successful horary with one who studies and cares about the art or one just seeking the free ride?

Yes, we discuss professional, an correct form and methodology!

This is recommended on this forum:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html

I have studied diligently horary for over a decade and I learned much from Houlding's course!

No one knows everything about anything but listening and doing the same 'backward dance' puts or gives astrology a bad name and I and others wish to bring astrology out of the grave of so many skeptical to where it is respected by the earth's overall population!

When you have read Henry Coley's text on this website you'll understand why he said what he did for the betterment of astrologers, our sacred art of horary:


http://www.skyscript.co.uk/clavis.html

"One grand Reason (I suppose) that hath occasioned many ingenious persons to have but low and mean thoughts of Astrology, is this; Viz. There are (and hath been) many ignorant and illiterate Professors of both Sex) in, and about this famous and Flourishing City of London, (whose names I shall not mention) that too confidently adventure to set up with a very small stock of Knowledg in Astrology, for the sake of Gain, and profess themselves Artists, but are not able to perform anything therein according to Art; only stuff their Clyents with many Impertinencies, under pretence of the Language of the Stars, thereby abusing their Querents, and consequently bring a Scandal upon this so excellent and useful a piece of Learning, and the more noble Professors thereof; which hath deterred many persons from the Study of Astrology, that otherwise (perhaps) might have proved good Proficients therein. I speak not this out of any prejudice I have to their Persons, nor in the least to advantage my own Interest, for I am a lover of Art, and those that (without abuse) do use it."

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I have already studied the first few lessons on Houlding's site and I refer to her book often. I am not looking for a free ride.

Good grief.
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