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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Interesting that at about the time of her Saturn return, and before the return, she is elected to Congress.

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One question should be, Is she the real deal or just a flash in the pan? If her chart shows staying power then she is someone to watch.
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John McCain has only one location now.
But you can't really know, David, that he has only one location, can you...?
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But you can't really know, David, that he has only one location, can you...?
One known address.
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It is the intellectual and moral vacuum of the current Democratic Party that is worrying. A healthy political situation depends on a two-party system.
We now have a 3 -party system: Republican, Democratic, and Trumpublican.
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It is the intellectual and moral vacuum of the current Democratic Party that is worrying. A healthy political situation depends on a two-party system.
lol it's hard to believe you even post this absurd comment .....
"It is the intellectual and moral vacuum of the current Democratic Party that is worrying."... so you have no problem with drumpf the president being a pedophile, a liar , a fraud,a traitor whos believes it is just fine to grab a womans..ah...crouch- K''t(his words).
one more for my list. I can't bear to read this trump apologist BS anymore
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One known address.

I suppose it depends upon what one knows.
Unless you are speaking materially, like where he is in the ground?
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I suppose it depends upon what one knows.
Unless you are speaking materially, like where he is in the ground?
Right. One thing that disturbed me was the tremendous disrespect for the man before he was even buried. It was like a frenzy of hatred. I could only attribute it to his opposition to some of Trump's policies at a time when nearly all Republicans were rubber-stamping them.
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Ilene, are you using the Outermosts in any way whatsoever in Chart-readings?
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lol it's hard to believe you even post this absurd comment .....
"It is the intellectual and moral vacuum of the current Democratic Party that is worrying."... so you have no problem with drumpf the president being a pedophile, a liar , a fraud,a traitor whos believes it is just fine to grab a womans..ah...crouch- K''t(his words).
one more for my list. I can't bear to read this trump apologist BS anymore
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My comment refers to the Democratic Party because Ocasio is part of the Democratic Party, and it is the Democrats who have left a vacuum that has allowed her to become, in her words, "the boss".
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We now have a 3 -party system: Republican, Democratic, and Trumpublican.

ahhh... there is no party system in a fascist dictatorship. fascism is not a social/political choice. it is a corporate created and sustained social control method
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It is the intellectual and moral vacuum of the current Democratic Party that is worrying. A healthy political situation depends on a two-party system.
I think Trump is a horrible, unprincipled man and a disaster for the USA.

Right now there is no true mainline conservative party in the US. The Republicans have become the party of allegiance to one strongman: Donald Trump. This is not good for democracy.

But I take your point about the Democrats. Their hearts are in the right place on many issues, but they seem to have a real talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Actually, parties are bunch of nonsense. Republicans and democrats are destroying the country and do it any good. If you want a real country, with true justice, we’d have one party purely advocating for freedom representing all individuals.
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You yourself made the comparison between the two, it would never have occurred to me. It could be interesting to compare the charts, don't you think?.
However, "fledgling member of the house from one district in NY" is not recognising the mediatic influence she is currently having on a national level.
Yesterday apparently she took on Wells Fargo and its CEO. Did you see the video of the distressed children with Feinstein, they are scared to death that the world will end in 12 years?
She is a boulder rolling down the mountain side bumping into anything that comes across her path, and potentially destructive, completely out of control. And this is why I mentioned the problem of the intellectual vacuum that is not standing up to this. And it is unfortunately on both sides of the political spectrum.
Sorry you won't take up the challenge, maybe you will change your mind.
It could be more fun, and certainly more informative, than throwing cheese at babies!
Nancy Pelosi is still the Democrat whom Republicans love to hate. But she got re-confirmed as Speaker of the House because everyone knows she's experienced and good at consensus-building.

Freshmen representatives in the House can get a lot of media attention, but they are not the figures of power in Congress. Both houses of Congress run on a seniority system, where the senior members of the party in power chair the committees. The Speaker and the committee chairs have the say in what bills even make it to the House floor, not first-year Representatives.

Then as you know, according to the Constitution, a bill passed by the House does not become law until it is also passed by the Senate. Which just now happens to be majority Republican.

Where Ocasio-Cortez's real power lies in symbolizing a much larger American population of young progressives. These younger voters will probably support Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren for president in 2020.
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Nancy Pelosi is still the Democrat whom Republicans love to hate. But she got re-confirmed as Speaker of the House because everyone knows she's experienced and good at consensus-building.

Freshmen representatives in the House can get a lot of media attention, but they are not the figures of power in Congress. Both houses of Congress run on a seniority system, where the senior members of the party in power chair the committees. The Speaker and the committee chairs have the say in what bills even make it to the House floor, not first-year Representatives.

Then as you know, according to the Constitution, a bill passed by the House does not become law until it is also passed by the Senate. Which just now happens to be majority Republican.

Where Ocasio-Cortez's real power lies in symbolizing a much larger American population of young progressives. These younger voters will probably support Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren for president in 2020.
Progressives... you mean socialists.
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I call people what they want to be called, LeoApp.
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It's interesting that in Canada, the conservative party calls themselves the Progressive Conservatives.
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I call people what they want to be called, LeoApp.
LeoApp... scuse me breadbag, but my name is AppLeo.

But a progressive is a socialist whether a progressive wants to be called a progressive or not.

If a woman is fat, it doesn’t matter if she wants to be referred to as a thin person. She’s fat at the end of the day.
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It's interesting that in Canada, the conservative party calls themselves the Progressive Conservatives.
Seems like a contradiction if you ask me. Looks like they’ve completely given up conservatism.

What about the progressives in Canada? Are they the progressive progressives?
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LeoApp... scuse me breadbag, but my name is AppLeo.
Don't get huffy-- you just proved my point!!! I changed your name deliberately. You hated it, but you feel sufficiently privileged to tell other people what they should call themselves.

I say, sauce for the progressive is sauce for the AppLeo.

These are the registered political parties in Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ties_in_Canada
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Don't get huffy-- you just proved my point!!! I changed your name deliberately. You hated it, but you feel sufficiently privileged to tell other people what they should call themselves.

I say, sauce for the progressive is sauce for the AppLeo.
Hmmm... fair point.

Progressives aren’t socialists, but they’re very similar from my observation.
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Hmmm... fair point.

Progressives aren’t socialists, but they’re very similar from my observation.
Here, the progressive conservatives are a lot like the liberals. The closest we have to a conservative party at this point is the People's Party of Canada, which was formed after Max Bernier split with the PCs.

He's not gonna win the election, sadly. But he's the only one who's been making any sense.

The liberals are in a meltdown over a financial scandal with favours to a company they have strong ties with and attempting to pressure the attorney general into not prosecuting said company for rampant corruption, and it's bad enough that I think Justin isn't going to recover for the election in October.

But...the PC leader, Andrew Scheer, is Trudeau-lite and possibly even more vapid than Justin is, so....

It's not looking good for your neighbours to the north.
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Progressives... you mean socialists.
Once again, a gross misuse of the word "socialist". A "socialist" doesn't believe in ANY private property, or Safety-net Capitalism, which is what we have in the U.S. and Canada. I blame Bernie for advertising the term incorrectly: He thinks it's a cool thing to call himself, but it perpetuates the misconception. It's equivalent to calling Neoliberals "fascists", evoking the spectre of Nazi Germany and Mussolini, just as "socialist" is linked to the USSR and Red China.
Just call it what it is, whether you're for it or against it: Safety-net Capitalism. I'm a Safety-netter myself, because it works better than any other system so far. When FDR implemented it during the Great Depression, he SAVED Capitalism from being so alien and useless to the majority of the population that it might have been replaced by a disastrous, socialist system.
The Constitution is perfectly suited for Safety-net Capitalism, which is currently the best economic system available. And, if you don't appreciate the Constitution and what it stands for, you're either a nihilist, or you're not thinking clearly.
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Here, the progressive conservatives are a lot like the liberals. The closest we have to a conservative party at this point is the People's Party of Canada, which was formed after Max Bernier split with the PCs.

He's not gonna win the election, sadly. But he's the only one who's been making any sense.

The liberals are in a meltdown over a financial scandal with favours to a company they have strong ties with and attempting to pressure the attorney general into not prosecuting said company for rampant corruption, and it's bad enough that I think Justin isn't going to recover for the election in October.

But...the PC leader, Andrew Scheer, is Trudeau-lite and possibly even more vapid than Justin is, so....

It's not looking good for your neighbours to the north.
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Once again, a gross misuse of the word "socialist". A "socialist" doesn't believe in ANY private property, or Safety-net Capitalism, which is what we have in the U.S. and Canada. I blame Bernie for advertising the term incorrectly: He thinks it's a cool thing to call himself, but it perpetuates the misconception. It's equivalent to calling Neoliberals "fascists", evoking the spectre of Nazi Germany and Mussolini, just as "socialist" is linked to the USSR and Red China.
Just call it what it is, whether you're for it or against it: Safety-net Capitalism. I'm a Safety-netter myself, because it works better than any other system so far. When FDR implemented it during the Great Depression, he SAVED Capitalism from being so alien and useless to the majority of the population that it might have been replaced by a disastrous, socialist system.
The Constitution is perfectly suited for Safety-net Capitalism, which is currently the best economic system available. And, if you don't appreciate the Constitution and what it stands for, you're either a nihilist, or you're not thinking clearly.
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Here, the progressive conservatives are a lot like the liberals. The closest we have to a conservative party at this point is the People's Party of Canada, which was formed after Max Bernier split with the PCs.

He's not gonna win the election, sadly. But he's the only one who's been making any sense.

The liberals are in a meltdown over a financial scandal with favours to a company they have strong ties with and attempting to pressure the attorney general into not prosecuting said company for rampant corruption, and it's bad enough that I think Justin isn't going to recover for the election in October.

But...the PC leader, Andrew Scheer, is Trudeau-lite and possibly even more vapid than Justin is, so....

It's not looking good for your neighbours to the north.
What's their problem? Sounds like the politicians in Canada don't know how to manage the economy. Those housing prices you recently quoted are ridiculously high. Is there any chance of fixing that?
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