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Yeah, cos grass grows on land with bedrock six inches down and cows can eat it.

I guess you think you can farm other things on that kind of land?

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Yeah, cos grass grows on land with bedrock six inches down and cows can eat it.

I guess you think you can farm other things on that kind of land?

Okaaaaay.
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Rarity of disorder doesn't seem to deter other issues from being discussed, argued for, accepted and even legislated - the issues around sexuality and gender identity being a prime example. The same argument of "having no choice" applies, too. Why should this be any different?

From what I've picked up, it's because we found out how to use fire why our meat intake increased, and it is because of our increased meat intake that we were able to increase our brain capacity with the effect that it has decreased stomach size and wiring.

I eat vegetables, fruits and meat. So do the majority of people I know. I don't need an article to tell me where humans fall in that category. Humans in 2019.

Mahatma Gandhi grew up in a society that has a tradition stretching back into prehistory where vegetarianism was encouraged and actively practiced due to religious reasons. It's easier for him and his people to assume such a diet, since they are better adapted to it. It's harder for some to do go completely meatless, and for still others it's even fatal.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the reasons why people decide to not eat animals, especially if they are privy to the inhuman practices that big businesses use in the preparing of consumable meat, but I personally believe that there is more to the issues than what I hear being spread the most. I know people's hearts are in the right place; that's not the issue.

And Jupiter's memes are nice and all, but I actually worked with animals so I'm not a bleeding heart who thinks that the best way to tackle issues is to "raise awareness" on the internet.
Obviously, humans exhibit the behavior of omnivores and this is not some new trend, it's been going for several million years at least. This is a hard fact and there is no question about it. But this really is not the problem. After all, one cannot expect a being to go against its own genetical programming. The problem is HOW they practice this.

Personally, I could never really self-identify as a human (which can be a little bit weird when you are experiencing life from the perspective of the human body and on the planet surrounded by humans ). So, I'm not going to pretend to understand human ways because I really don't. For this reason, I always tried to stay away as far as possible from this "Earth drama". But as an impartial observer, I cannot help to notice several issues closely connected to the subject of meat eating.

First, as you mentioned yourself, there is cruelty. Through most of human meat eating history, meat meal has been a rare treat reserved for special occasions. Nowadays, the situation has gotten completely out of control. Modern slaughterhouses are really not different from Nazi gas chambers.

Also, the way human society is organized (or shall I say disorganized) is going to hit a dead end very soon. Maintaining what is popularly called "the way of life" will become impossible because it is not sustainable in the long run and humans will run out of planet to exploit. Now, what do you think, how will humans resolve this? By mutual agreement and cooperation and by planning maybe even 300 or 500 years ahead which will require some personal sacrifice from many future generations of humans? Everything is possible but that'll be the first. Or they will resolve this by an old-fashioned human way: with war and bloodshed.

Also very important, humans are rapidly destroying all life on the planet. Floating through space on a lifeless rock, surrounded only by their own madness isn't going to be much fun.
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Obviously, humans exhibit the behavior of omnivores and this is not some new trend, it's been going for several million years at least. This is a hard fact and there is no question about it. But this really is not the problem. After all, one cannot expect a being to go against its own genetical programming. The problem is HOW they practice this.

Personally, I could never really self-identify as a human (which can be a little bit weird when you are experiencing life from the perspective of the human body and on the planet surrounded by humans ). So, I'm not going to pretend to understand human ways because I really don't. For this reason, I always tried to stay away as far as possible from this "Earth drama". But as an impartial observer, I cannot help to notice several issues closely connected to the subject of meat eating.

First, as you mentioned yourself, there is cruelty. Through most of human meat eating history, meat meal has been a rare treat reserved for special occasions. Nowadays, the situation has gotten completely out of control. Modern slaughterhouses are really not different from Nazi gas chambers.

Also, the way human society is organized (or shall I say disorganized) is going to hit a dead end very soon. Maintaining what is popularly called "the way of life" will become impossible because it is not sustainable in the long run and humans will run out of planet to exploit. Now, what do you think, how will humans resolve this? By mutual agreement and cooperation and by planning maybe even 300 or 500 years ahead which will require some personal sacrifice from many future generations of humans? Everything is possible but that'll be the first. Or they will resolve this by an old-fashioned human way: with war and bloodshed.

Also very important, humans are rapidly destroying all life on the planet. Floating through space on a lifeless rock, surrounded only by their own madness isn't going to be much fun.
You’ve been brainwashed by liberal media...
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You’ve been brainwashed by liberal media...
No Leo. As I've said before, I'll always support solutions that will minimize suffering on this planet and create conditions for mass spiritual awakening (note, this has nothing to do with religions). As far as I know, there is no single political party in the whole world with a programme that I find useful, so I don't vote.

As for the stuff that you deem valuable, like money and possessions, as far as I am concerned you can have it all. It's all worthless, it's a prison.

Are you familiar with the concept of "monkey trap"?

Hunters would put food like banana and peanuts in a jar with an opening slightly bigger than a monkey’s hand. When a monkey sees the jar, its hand would reach inside and grab the food, and the hand is now turned into a fist. It then withdraws only to realize that the hand is now stuck. No matter how hard it tries, the hand cannot be freed from the jar. The opening of the jar is simply not large enough for the fist to get out. The only way the monkey can free its hand is to let go of the food. Despite possessing the means to escape the trap, the monkey won’t let go.

Your attachment to worldly stuff is like a banana from this story.
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Since you're not sympathetic to the human perspective, this view shouldn't bother you. I think that humans will be eradicated before we are allowed to destroy this planet. The species is very much linked to the Earth occultly, and we're not the masters.
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As for the stuff that you deem valuable, like money and possessions, as far as I am concerned you can have it all. It's all worthless, it's a prison.
Good luck trying to live without money and not owning anything. Lol

At least as a homeless loser you can use the public library to post on the forums. And leech off the people who have money and possessions.
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Since you're not sympathetic to the human perspective, this view shouldn't bother you. I think that humans will be eradicated before we are allowed to destroy this planet. The species is very much linked to the Earth occultly, and we're not the masters.
Eradicated by what? And destroy the planet how?

All we’re doing is manipulating materials and exploiting resources on the planet to increase our quality of life. I don’t know how we’re destroying anything.

I don’t know what you mean by Earth occulty or how we’re not masters...
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Eradicated by what? And destroy the planet how?

All we’re doing is manipulating materials and exploiting resources on the planet to increase our quality of life. I don’t know how we’re destroying anything.

I don’t know what you mean by Earth occulty or how we’re not masters...
The Age of Aquarius.....eradication by Man.......we will destroy ourselves, and we seem to be working toward it quite well.......boom-chaka-boom
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The Age of Aquarius.....eradication by Man.......we will destroy ourselves, and we seem to be working toward it quite well.......boom-chaka-boom
Like nuclear weapons?
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