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I believe Jupiter has great influence over Mars, and that Pluto will follow suit.

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CBS "60 Minutes" had an interview with a Federal Reserve Chief in Minneapolis - and is worth watching this short 15 min. video -

in light of the fact, he was also on the bi-partisan team for the 2008 TARP and the crash which started under G.W. Bush, carried into the Obama Administration.


This man knows apparently of what he speaks, and he says they will go full throttle ahead, overly saturating the economy in order to SAVE it from a serious long recession. He feels they (in retrospect) were not agressive enough in 2008 - which led to a 10 yr. recession.


Apparently he is putting everything on the workers, being able to keep their jobs or in this case, coming back to work early, not like before:


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...es-2020-03-22/
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I believe Jupiter has great influence over Mars, and that Pluto will follow suit.
I haven't read every post on this thread, but chanced upon Mr Starling's here, so pardon me if I am missing some particular context.

In Mundane Astrology, we would need to see what Jup and Mars are ruling in a specific country's chart. For instance, I think with the US chart, Mars rules the country itself or its general condition and yes, also the general health of its residents.

Jup, via Sag, rules the 2nd in US' case, so the country's treasury. Just simply putting the conj. together, we see that the president has already decided on spending trillion dollars to (the way he understands) improve the condition of the country.

Mars, via Aries, also rules the 6th house of food reserves of the country, so Jup will expand food supplier to those who need it, or one could also see this with people 'hoarding' food supplies out of fear.

We would also need to see where the two are located in any country's chart, and how strong they are.

PS: If I am incorrect about USA's chart in the above post, as I am gong purely by memory, please take it as an e.g.
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I haven't read every post on this thread, but chanced upon Mr Starling's here, so pardon me if I am missing some particular context.

In Mundane Astrology, we would need to see what Jup and Mars are ruling in a specific country's chart. For instance, I think with the US chart, Mars rules the country itself or its general condition and yes, also the general health of its residents.

Jup, via Sag, rules the 2nd in US' case, so the country's treasury. Just simply putting the conj. together, we see that the president has already decided on spending trillion dollars to (the way he understands) improve the condition of the country.

Mars, via Aries, also rules the 6th house of food reserves of the country, so Jup will expand food supplier to those who need it, or one could also see this with people 'hoarding' food supplies out of fear.

We would also need to see where the two are located in any country's chart, and how strong they are.

PS: If I am incorrect about USA's chart in the above post, as I am gong purely by memory, please take it as an e.g.
Which U.S.A. Chart seems most accurate to you? Sibley, for example?

As far as strength by transiting Sign-placement, I would say Mars is relatively strong in Capricorn, whereas Pluto and Jupiter are somewhat weaker than normal.

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I'm actually looking for more global than local events in this case. Just saw one that relates to the three-way conjunction in late Capricorn--looks like the International Olympics will be cancelled this year. The Olympics are a modern-day version of the ancient Greek Olympiad games, dedicated to Zeus/(Jupiter). Australia and Canada are the first nations to announce they won't be participating. Waiting to see if the U.S. cancels as well.

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I consider the U.S. Stock Exchange to be of global importance, and it clearly responds to global events.
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I'm actually looking for more global than local events in this case. Just saw one that relates to the three-way conjunction in late Capricorn--looks like the International Olympics will be cancelled this year. The Olympics are a modern-day version of the ancient Greek Olympiad games, dedicated to Zeus/(Jupiter). Australia and Canada are the first nations to announce they won't be participating. Waiting to see if the U.S. cancels as well.
The point I was trying to make thru my previous post was that global transits - like Pluto in Cap or until two days ago Sat in Cap, will have local effects per their placements in the charts of different countries. Why is Italy facing it much more severly than perhaps the US or Canada, or an Asian country (except China and Japan) - that could depend on the local charts.
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Which U.S.A. Chart seems most accurate to you? Sibley, for example?

As far as strength by transiting Sign-placement, I would say Mars is relatively strong in Capricorn, whereas Pluto and Jupiter are somewhat weaker than normal.
Jupiter, which likes to expand, might find it difficult in earthy and constricting Capricorn - yes.

Pluto is strong in every sign. All outers are. They are too powerful, but in a more generational way, to let themselves be dominated by the inner planets. Where the inner planets score over them is in a particular natal chart.

As to which US chart is more accurate - I am still undecided - and haven't invested too much time on that account.
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The point I was trying to make thru my previous post was that global transits - like Pluto in Cap or until two days ago Sat in Cap, will have local effects per their placements in the charts of different countries. Why is Italy facing it much more severly than perhaps the US or Canada, or an Asian country (except China and Japan) - that could depend on the local charts.
5G deployment, in my opinion. Italy went full bore into 5G in late 2019 and early 2020.
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5G deployment, in my opinion. Italy went full bore into 5G in late 2019 and early 2020.
Can you explain that, please? Not the 5G part per se, but how that triggered what happened to Italy
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Can you explain that, please? Not the 5G part per se, but how that triggered what happened to Italy
Their elderly population just wasn't ready for a bombardment of short wave cellular radiation. 5G requires many more transmitters than 4G.
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California has had a massive deployment of 5G in the last few months.
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We all have our own, personal electromagnetic fields. 5G is disrupting them. Some can shake it off, some can't. It's affecting our immune systems.
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There were dire warnings about it in early 2019. I thought it was just doomsday imagination.
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South Korea was first to deploy 5G in a big way, and the virus from China has taken its toll since early on. The good news is, the country appears to be getting the pandemic under control. The human immune system is very resilient.
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Dow doesn't seem impressed with Saturn's ingress into Aquarius.
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Switzerland prohibits 5G because of health risks. There is a difference between 5G Hz and 5G wi-fi. Nancy Hopkins from Cosmic Reality explained 5G wi-fi is not an upgrade of 4G; that 5G, unlike 4G, is laser and that anything in the path of the laser beam is at risk, meaning it could kill off the bee population which in turn would be disastrous. Trees are an obstruction and so must be cut down.

Some say this Coronavirus scare that shuttered schools is allowing 5G wi-fi to be installed in the schools. Some claim 5G wi-fi enables mind control. There's so much misinformation. It's time consuming to vet everything to uncover the truth, if it's even available.
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Switzerland prohibits 5G because of health risks. There is a difference between 5G Hz and 5G wi-fi. Nancy Hopkins from Cosmic Reality explained 5G wi-fi is not an upgrade of 4G; that 5G, unlike 4G, is laser and that anything in the path of the laser beam is at risk, meaning it could kill off the bee population which in turn would be disastrous. Trees are an obstruction and so must be cut down.

Some say this Coronavirus scare that shuttered schools is allowing 5G wi-fi to be installed in the schools. Some claim 5G wi-fi enables mind control. There's so much misinformation. It's time consuming to vet everything to uncover the truth, if it's even available.
Switzerland is one of the European leaders in deployment of 5G, despite protests and an attempt to slow it down. And, despite being hit hard by the virus, with many blaming 5G for causing illnesses.

In the U.S., there's virtually no resistance to the deployment of 5G.
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Switzerland is one of the European leaders in deployment of 5G, despite protests and an attempt to slow it down. And, despite being hit hard by the virus, with many blaming 5G for causing illnesses.

In the U.S., there's virtually no resistance to the deployment of 5G.

Thanks! You're right: Switzerland is one of the world's leaders in the rollout of 5G mobile technology.

In checking - contradictions abound. Last month's Headlines:
  • "Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns"
  • "Switzerland denies ban on 5G roll-out over health concerns."
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Is the market tanking?

DOW - 18,142.00-898.00 (-4.72%) As of 11:43AM EDT. Market open.

(AT 9:31AM EDT it was 18,844.11)


The Yahoo Finance interactive chart will NOT expand past June 16 of last year.

The DOW currently is near the point it was for the 2016 election.

Gold and Silver are rallying.
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The stimulus bill was dead on the floor last night. Today Sen. McConnell, party head of the GOP said that its the Dems fault for not accepting the GOP bill as they wrote it.



In this bill and GOP list of wants , McConnell however did not mention the so-called "Slush fund" or 1/2 a Trillion (500 Billions dollars) which they want to do anything they wish with no accountability having to be given for it.


It is vague at its core as was his press conference; for example, does not provide in the GOP plan, more then 3 months unemployment for the worker bees (see the posted link above for 60Minutes explanation about the "worker bees" who actually are the backbone of this economy! To not provide security for them, with the current layoffs which may reach millions and perhaps 30% one estimate being given in a few months - , the GOP Senate is leaving off security for them such as the small business & the giant corporations (Oil, gas, etc)hiring them back with their portion of the slush fund.


THIS is why AOC called Susan Collins (R-Mass) response "crocodile tears" for the rich.


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/ale..._notifications



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Collins voted for the GOP tax scam.
She voted to appoint Kavanaugh.
She’s defending an utterly corrupt bill to shower public money on friends and donors.

Susan Collins is not a moderate. She just plays one on TV.
note: DJT would also get a portion of that "slush fund" that must be paid with taxpayers money eventually as it would go onto the monster deficit. Dems MUST be careful what they give to this greedy bunch. (not saying there are not greedy ones in the Dem party either) don't misquote me or misunderstand, as Diane Feinstein (the old lady of the Dems. managed to use insider info just like her other 4 Republican Senators did to sell off stock worth millions as a group.

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Using the Sibley chart, the U.S.A.'s tropical Age-indicator position at about 24 degrees Cap, is now close-conj the transiting planets Mars, Pluto, and Jupiter.

The tropical Age-indicator has moved only about 3 degrees since the founding of this nation.

I'm now watching to see what happens on March 27th, when transiting Mars is exactly conj the current Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator @ 27 degrees 47 minutes Cap.

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The growing awareness of the debilitating effects of 5G is being "debunked" by "experts". They don't address the real concern, instead using derogatory language and a straw man argument--a sure sign that they have an agenda to continue 5G deployment regardless of its effects.

They actually claim to believe that the critics of 5G are saying that it transmits the virus itself, rather than weakens the immune system!
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Dow doesn't seem impressed with Saturn's ingress into Aquarius.
Dow IS liking Saturn's ingress into Aquarius!
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