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Relationship with uncompatible signs

Nowadays i am feeling like there is something wrong about my chart or i am no longer aquarius more like virgo

İts mainly told,same element planets get along like aqua gemini libra...

I am having Virgo risjng with 6 planets in aquarius in 6th house and leo moon.
But i can say i had no gemini aqua or libra friends.
My mom is aqua and we are like enemies

My two best friends are cancer with leo rising and having earth elements in chart
(Very insteresting i still dont get it)

My first lover was very pisces,other was scorpio and now husband is scorpio with heavy water elements

My only loved relative uncle is scorpio who i love more than everyone in family.

So i am really confused.Should not i have airy or fiery signs around me? Or even though i have stellium,am i not much that aqua ???

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Re: Relationship with uncompatible signs

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Unread 12-14-2020, 01:28 AM
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Re: Relationship with uncompatible signs

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Nowadays i am feeling like there is something wrong about my chart or i am no longer aquarius more like virgo

İts mainly told,same element planets get along like aqua gemini libra...

I am having Virgo risjng with 6 planets in aquarius in 6th house and leo moon.
But i can say i had no gemini aqua or libra friends.
My mom is aqua and we are like enemies

My two best friends are cancer with leo rising and having earth elements in chart
(Very insteresting i still dont get it)

My first lover was very pisces,other was scorpio and now husband is scorpio with heavy water elements

My only loved relative uncle is scorpio who i love more than everyone in family.

So i am really confused.Should not i have airy or fiery signs around me? Or even though i have stellium,am i not much that aqua ???

Any two signs or elements can have good relationships, even intimate ones. It depends more on the exact synastry between the two and the composite chart also. And of course the maturity and psychological health of the individuals. Two very insecure or emotionally immature people that have very compatible astrology can make each other miserable.


And it may be that you are not a strong air temperament yourself if you have only the Sun in an air sign. It would be good to post your chart.
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Re: Relationship with uncompatible signs

We tend to need people in our lives who bring us our missing elements. Your chart is so heavy on air and so scanty on the other elements that you really need people who can bring you water, fire, and earth. Air heavy people may be an overload for you.

People whose charts are stronger in your less expressed elements are the ones who bring you those elements.
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We tend to need people in our lives who bring us our missing elements. Your chart is so heavy on air and so scanty on the other elements that you really need people who can bring you water, fire, and earth. Air heavy people may be an overload for you.

People whose charts are stronger in your less expressed elements are the ones who bring you those elements.
Thank you Osamenor for your reply,

That theory really seem logical indeed. Maybe airy chart people turns me off i dont know but i can definitely say that i had no air sign friend so far.

Actually the main thing i wonder is if there is synastry for people and if aquarius get along with some particular signs(for me for astrologically i need air or fire stellium people around me right because their planets will have trine or sextile aspect to me) Then how can it be possible my two dearest friends are watery gals.

My stellium hit theirs.Pisces not really aspect... cancer... in 11th house for virgo but not strong aspect... scorpio ... it squares all my planets...

This thing i still can not understand
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My conclusion with your Leo Moon (fixed) also has aspects from Saturn and Pluto
it attracts you emotionally to Colder or Deeper or maybe solid minded Strong or powerful partner like scorpio or capricorns. You may need stronger emotional security. yada satürn-plüto ve 12. ev etkisi sayesinde hayatta duygularını öldürmüş gizlemiş olabilirsin

Moon and Chiron is rising - Pluto on the Root - Saturn on the DSC
these are all cold and not well known as beneficial planets even when you look at asc and dsc rulers they are in Sco and Virgo.

12. ev ve 6.ev etkisi kötü derler bende de var ve bok gibi kendini köle veya kurtarıcı rollerinde bulman an meselesi hayatta hiçbir zaman kendi hayatını yaşaman imkansız demiyim de zorlaştırıyo bence . Güneş 7.evde bile olsa 6.evden daha iyidir hele 12.ev en berbatı birinci ağızdan söylüyorum.

Yükselende Chiron varken o da net bir kimlik oluşmasına yardım etmiyo bünyede bence sorun çıkarıyo. Derslerinin iyi olduğunu tıp mezunu olduğunu biliyorum hiç değilse asc ye göre meslek seçme şansın olabilmiş. şahsi görüşüm kova kadar başak da sayılmalısın.

6.ev için genel konuşursak en çok Hizmet ve hizmetkarlıkla alakalı
karakter olarak da insanlara yardım etmeyi seven biri olabilirsin
düşününce 6.evi hizmet evinde evrensel ve hümanist temalı kova ve içinde stelyum var. (oyüzden tıp manidar olmuş yada alternatif olarak sosyal hizmet çok daha iyi otururdu neyse)
Güneş ama geleneksel anlamda 6.evde çok da iyi konumda değil
nasıl desem güneş hizmet etmeyi değil hizmet almayı tek olmayı hükmetmeyi buyurgan ve özel olmayı sever oyüzden 6.evde yada 12.evde rahat etmiyo kendini gösteremiyo ben böyle yorumluyorum daha çok bulunduğu evin burcun şekline bürünüyo iyice gücünü gösteremediği zaman.

bir konuda asosyalim yazmışsın ona ithafen Şiron-Plüto ve Satürn konumların yani evleri benimkilerle aynı bunlar sosyalleştirmeyi ikili ilişki kurmayı kısıtlayabilir geciktirebilir engelleyebilir hatta bu konuları bu planetlerin doğasına çevirebilir iyice. bu gezegenlerle sosyal hayatıma dair herşey bok gibi itiraf edeyim tesadüf olduğunu sanmam chiron-plüto-satürn hep problemli gezegenler bunların köşe noktalarda olması boktan olaylar. asosyalsin ama benden de değilsin emin ol. gerçi paran varsa sahte de olsa herkes götünde biteceği için takmıyorum okdr. köşe noktalar bence çok önemli


Aynı elementtekilerle anlaşırsın olayına gelince oldukça yüzeysel bi fikir.
çünkü anlaşamdığın da çıkabilir gayet bunu da sinastri söylerdi zaten kolayca.
Anneyle olan düşmanlık ay açılarından anlaşılıyor gibi biraz.
Güneş 6.evde 12.evde olduğu zaman yükselen tarafından görünmüyor
karakter bölünmesi hisleri bence bu yüzden
Rahatça türkçe yazabilmek güzel ,banlanmayız di mi

Açıkçası yorumunu çok beğendim.6.ev hakkında o kadar çok şey okudum araştırdım ki.Sanırım tam olarak potansiyelini gösteremeyen bir ev.Knedini gözardı ettiğin hizmet evi,sürekli başkaları için çabalamak.

Her ne kadar bazen mesleğim beni yorsa da(özellikle mental olarak)bazen bırakmayı düşünsem de ,astroloji doktorluğun benim için doğru bir meslek olduğunu gösteriyor sanırım senin de dediğin gibi. Güneş 6.evde..Bak buna şey diyebilirim.Kendini gösterememek demişssin ya.Babam ben çok küçükken öldü.Sanırım bu da olabilir. Bir de iş yerinde yalnız çalışmayı seviyorum grup halinde olmaktansa.Yani kendi işinin yöneticisi olmak gibi

En yakın arkadaşımın güneşi de 12.evde ve kendisi aslan yükselen.Yani düşün yükselen lordu 12.evde.Onun da babası ile sorunları var .Adam aile kavramını tam kavrayamamış birisi.Hep uzaklarda falan.

Aynı element derken aslında şunu demek istedim ,nihayet türkçe yazdığım için ayrıntılı açıklayabileceğim

Şimdi ben de stellium olunca haliyle haritası toprak ağırlıklı ya da su ağırlıklılara güzel açılarım olmuyo. Ya kare oluyo ya 30 ya 150 lik.Baktığında ideal sinastri açıları değil. İşte ben bu noktada tıkanıyorum. Bu kadar boktan sinastri açıları oluyo e ama ben dayımla nasıl anlaşıyorum

My conclusion with your Leo Moon (fixed) also has aspects from Saturn and Pluto
it attracts you emotionally to Colder or Deeper or maybe solid minded Strong or powerful partner like scorpio or capricorns.

Bunu biraz daha açabilir misin?Tamam Ay önemli bir komponen ama ya 7.ev 11.ev ne bileyim 5.ev yöneticileri açıları falan daha çok bakılıyor ya.Yanlış dediğin için demiyorum.Aslında nokta atışı yaptın .4 yıl önce sevdiğim kişi akrep burcu ve oğlak yükselen idi. Eşim de akrep burcu başak yükselen.

Diğer konumu da okumuşşsun teşekkür ederim .Aslında tam asosyallik demeyelim ama hani standart kova burcu var ya ,havai parti girl. İşte ben hiç öyle olmadım.Ve ya çok kalabalıklardan hoşlanan biri de olmadım. Yani yine dediğime geliyorum .Kovada stelyum var ama nasıl bir kovayım hala anlamadım
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Actually the main thing i wonder is if there is synastry for people and if aquarius get along with some particular signs(for me for astrologically i need air or fire stellium people around me right because their planets will have trine or sextile aspect to me) Then how can it be possible my two dearest friends are watery gals.
Your DC is in a water sign. That pulls people with watery, Pisces-like traits into your life.

Lots of trines and sextiles between people's charts doesn't always mean they'll get along well. They might get along in a boring, placid, no spark kind of way. Or they might have a "you're too much like me" dynamic. Ideally, you should have some easy and some hard aspects with your close people. The hard aspects provide the spark. The easy aspects are the part that can go smoothly with little or no effort.

But even that doesn't spell perfection, because people can get on well even without significant aspects between their charts: for example, lots of placements in adjacent signs. Another way people can be compatible with each other, astrologically, is by completing each other's charts. If someone is strong in elements you lack, and vice versa, that's completing each other. If someone has placements in a part of the zodiac that's empty in your chart, that's also completion.
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Your DC is in a water sign. That pulls people with watery, Pisces-like traits into your life.

Lots of trines and sextiles between people's charts doesn't always mean they'll get along well. They might get along in a boring, placid, no spark kind of way. Or they might have a "you're too much like me" dynamic. Ideally, you should have some easy and some hard aspects with your close people. The hard aspects provide the spark. The easy aspects are the part that can go smoothly with little or no effort.

But even that doesn't spell perfection, because people can get on well even without significant aspects between their charts: for example, lots of placements in adjacent signs. Another way people can be compatible with each other, astrologically, is by completing each other's charts. If someone is strong in elements you lack, and vice versa, that's completing each other. If someone has placements in a part of the zodiac that's empty in your chart, that's also completion.
Completing each other what you lack...That I will keep on my mind. Thanks
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Hello again,


Your chart shows many planets in H6 so even though they are Aquarian planets they behave much like Virgo planets since H6 correlates to the sign of Virgo. This adds to the Virgo identification you feel.



As far as relationships, I see your Moon in H12 and that acts somewhat like a Moon in Pisces. Your H7 house of partners has Pisces on the cusp. As for your encahnt for Scorpio lovers, perhaps they have planets in late Scorpio on your N.Node? Nodal links in synastry are supposed to be "karmic" or "soul" links. I have found that especially when the one persons Moons's nodes are conjunct another's Moon or Venus, often there is a strong easy bond and attraction.


A good example of a couple who at first glance have incompatible signs is Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn. He is triple water with Sun in Pisces ,Moon and ASC in cancer. She is Sun n Scorpio but Sadge Rising and Moon in Gemini. The strength of their composite chart may be the biggest reason for their long lasting union, with a stellium of the Sun that trines both Mars and Neptune and Sun and Moon do not fall in H6 or H12.


I'll post those charts.
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Here are the natals and composite:
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Hi livingsky what is your opinion on Sun square Saturnin the composite? Sun is end of 7th house and Saturn in 5th house. It is exact.
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Hello again,


Your chart shows many planets in H6 so even though they are Aquarian planets they behave much like Virgo planets since H6 correlates to the sign of Virgo. This adds to the Virgo identification you feel.



As far as relationships, I see your Moon in H12 and that acts somewhat like a Moon in Pisces. Your H7 house of partners has Pisces on the cusp. As for your encahnt for Scorpio lovers, perhaps they have planets in late Scorpio on your N.Node? Nodal links in synastry are supposed to be "karmic" or "soul" links. I have found that especially when the one persons Moons's nodes are conjunct another's Moon or Venus, often there is a strong easy bond and attraction.


A good example of a couple who at first glance have incompatible signs is Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn. He is triple water with Sun in Pisces ,Moon and ASC in cancer. She is Sun n Scorpio but Sadge Rising and Moon in Gemini. The strength of their composite chart may be the biggest reason for their long lasting union, with a stellium of the Sun that trines both Mars and Neptune and Sun and Moon do not fall in H6 or H12.


I'll post those charts.
Are we sure about this couples chart?
Sometimes celebrity charts are not Real.
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Are we sure about this couples chart?
Sometimes celebrity charts are not Real.

Both Goldie's and Kurt's chart were taken from the databank at AstroDienst where they were given a Rodden rating of AA. That is the best rating since the data was taken from birth certificates.



Yes, some celebrity charts are inaccurate but the same is often the case with non-celebs as the TOB is often determined from someone' memory.Also if in the delivery room there is some event that requires a serious or out-of-the ordinary medical intervention requiring the staff to be attentive to the crisis and not the clock, some TOB's may not get noted and then when they are recorded later it is a guess-timate from memory.


Having a very large sample in one's data corrects for the few that may be inaccurate which is why I have made it a mission to collect well over 200 composites charts.


Another couple that seem to have "incompatible signs" (as the OP seems to suggest those to be) is Wallis Simpson and Edward VIII of England. Her chart is heavy in Air, his in water. But the synastry and composites are very strong. Her TOB is not well documented however but that would only effect a change in the Ascendant and create a range of 12 degrees for the Moon.


Paul McCartney and Linda Eastman are also two that at first glance would not seem compatible based only on Sun/moon/Ascendant. He is Gemini with Moon in Leo. She is Moon in Scorpio and Scorpio Rising. Again the Composite and synastry are strong. Both of these couples were married for about 30 years.
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