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Re: SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

Virgo Moon is predominator
first trigon lord = Venus = first eight years.
second trigon lord = Moon = until 33.
third trigon lord = Mars = after 33?

or start with moon 25 years
+ leo sun 19 years
+ mercury 20 years ?

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Virgo Moon is predominator
first trigon lord = Venus = first eight years.
second trigon lord = Moon = until 33.
third trigon lord = Mars = after 33?

or start with moon 25 years
+ leo sun 19 years
+ mercury 20 years ?


The Minor Years of the Planets
are consistently given in many different texts.
One source is
at the end of Book III
of the Anthology by Valens

free download.

Below are the Minor Years of each planet
  • Saturn – 30
  • Jupiter – 12
  • Mars – 15
  • Sun – 19
  • Venus – 8
  • Mercury – 20
  • Moon – 25
In various sections of the Anthology
especially Book VII
Valens uses the years of the planets for prediction.
He combines the minor years of planets that are in configurations.



Valens also
combines minor years of planets with those of their ruler.


The basic idea is that
a planet’s effects are likely to manifest
or ripen
near to the number of years of the planet.
Multiples of the years are also used.
For instance, Venus ripens every 8 years
so at age 16, 24, 32, and 40 she may also come into focus.

Note that the native’s 16th year is actually when he/she is 15
so the indication can also be
for the year leading up to that age.

Combining Years

Combinations include summing the Minor Years of two planets.
We can sum the Minor Years of a planet and its ruler
for activation of the planet in the sign.

For instance, age 27 may be an activation of
the Sun in Taurus - Sun 19 plus Venus 8.


Additionally, to time out the ripening of configurations
we combine the years of the planets involved.
For instance, age 27 may see the activation of
a Jupiter - 12 - square Mars - 15 - configuration in the chart.

article at https://sevenstarsastrology.com/astr...ision-of-days/


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HELLENISTIC ASTROLOGY uses CHRONOCRATORS
Chrono = Time
Crator = Ruler
aka TIME RULERS
aka TIME LORDS

Valens explains in Book Seven that
there can be - and often are - at any one time, several Time Lords
and so

according to Valens if these Time Lords are all benefics
the judgement is for a beneficial year.
but if these TIME LORDS are all benefics mixed with malefics as well
then the judgement is for a mixed year
If these TIME LORDS are all malefics judgement is for a difficult year

Vettius Valens explains in detail in THE ANTHOLOGY
FREE to read online pdf translated from the original Ancient Greek
at
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Book Seven of THE ANTHOLOGY by Vettius Valens states
'....Take the ascensional time of a sign
and count it up with the period of the planet in this sign.
The sum gives a particular year.

TABLE OF ASCENSIONAL ARCS OF ZODIAC SIGNS
is viewable at http://www.projecthindsight.com/imag...nsionTimes.pdf

Rhetorius translation by James Holden provides a chart example
which states that effect of planet lasts until its period ends.
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THE NATURE of SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
is

Masculine, diurnal
cold and dry
melancholic
earthly
malevolent
the Greater Infortune
Author of solitariness




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OPPOSITE OF EXALTATION
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DEPRESSION

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The opposite of the exaltation is depression. The Greek hypsoma imply literal latitude. Pliny and Valens treat those as literal latitude. Ptolemy appears to be the first source with a completely seasonal rationale, perhaps he was aware of some technical flaw in the epicyclic theory.

Another fragment from the Michigan papyrus:
''Still other ethereal constellations revolve in their own circles. The Sun is in apogee in Gemini; Venus is in perigee in Pisces and in apogee in Virgo; Jupiter is in apogee in Cancer and in perigee in Capricorn'' - see Michigan Papyri, Vol III, Papyri in the University of Michigan Collection, Miscellaneous Papyri, Ed. John Garret Winter, University of Michigan Press, Ann Arbor, MI, 1936. Translation by F.E. Robbins.

Note that there is some inconsistency with the epicyclic theory since the Sun has apogee in Gemini (and is changing but they did not know about that until the Middle Ages) from a geocentric perspective. Perhaps the Sun and the Moon exaltations are seasonal (in the Babylonian zodiac) while the others are related to stations, and as such were then integrated into the epicyclic theories by the Greeks.

If the other five planets exaltations are related to epicyclic perigree and apogee, they were not meant to be used in a tropical zodiac due to how revolutions work (they do not have precession as noted by Ptolemy in Almagest 9.6).
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Saturn - Libra 21°
Jupiter - Cancer 15°
Mars - Capricorn 28°
Sun - Aries 19°
Venus - Pisces 27°
Mercury - Virgo 15°
Moon - Taurus 3°

The Ram exalts the Sun for it is the Midheaven of the Universe, royal, heating and drying because of Mars and the zenith, quadrupedal, running, masculine, ovecoming Cancer and configured through superior trigon with Leo - its own domicile. The 19th degree is especially exalting because of the recurrence years and the hind foot.

The Bull exalts the Moon for it is the Post-Ascension of the Midheaven, notable, slightly heating and moist because of Venus and the Good Daimon, horned in appearance, feminine, overcoming Leo and configured through superior hexagon with Cancer - its own domicile. The 3rd degree is especially exalting because of the appearance phase and the Pleiades.

The Scales exalt Saturn for they are the Anti-Midheaven of the Universe, changeable, cooling and death-bringing because of the subterranean, opposing the Sun, superior to Capricorn and configured through superior trigon with Aquarius - its own domicile. The 21st degree is especially exalting because of Alpha Librae.

The Crab exalts Jupiter for it is the Hour-Marker of the Universe, notable, airy and life-bringing because of the Moon and the rising, watery, superior to Libra and Scorpio and configured through trigon with Pisces - its own domicile. The 15th degree is especially exalting because of the head.

The Goat-Horned One exalts Mars for it is the Setting of the Universe, changeable, cooling and injuring because of Saturn and the west, opposing Jupiter, superior to Aries and Taurus and configured through hexagon with Scorpio - its own domicile. The 28th degree is especially exalting because of the tail.

The Fishes exalt Venus for they are the Pre-Ascension of the Midheaven, double-bodied, moist and most fertile because of the fish-goddess and the place, submerged, passionate, superior to Gemini and Cancer and configured through hexagon with Taurus - its own domicile. The 27th degree is especially exalting because of the northern fish.

The Maiden exalts Mercury for it is Pre-Ascension of the Anti-Midheaven, nocturnal, domicile of Mercury, eloquent, winged, opposing Venus and the post-ascension of Leo. The 15th degree is especially exalting because of the appearance and Gamma Virginis.
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Sun is depressed in Libra with obscurity and death.
Moon is depressed in Scorpio with loss of light and death.
Saturn is ''depressed'' in Aries for it afflicts kingship with extremely dry qualities.
Jupiter is depressed in Capricorn with cold and death.
Mars is ''depressed'' in Cancer for it harms life with burning caustic influence.
Venus is depressed in Virgo with infertility and virginity.
Mercury is depressed in Pisces with silence and water.

I will check the degrees later.
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Principles for the exaltations and depressions of the planets:
1. Configuration with Cancer.
- only Cancer, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn, Pisces, Aries and Taurus are eligible, the rest are rejected

2. Diurnal planets are configured through trigon with their domiciles.
- Sun - Aries
- Saturn - Virgo, Libra or Taurus
- Jupiter - Cancer, Scorpio or Aries

3. Nocturnal planets are configured through hexagon with their domiciles.
- Moon - Virgo or Taurus
- Mars - Virgo or Capricorn
- Venus - Cancer or Pisces

4. Affinity with the places - lights above the horizon, benefics in good places, malefics in bad places.
- Sun - Aries as Mc (action) opposite Ic
- Moon - Taurus as Good Daimon (gifts) opposite Good Fortune
- Saturn - Libra as Ic (death) opposite Mc
- Jupiter - Cancer as Asc (life) opposite Dsc
- Mars - Capricorn as Dsc (injury) opposite Asc

5. Affinity with the images and their domicile rulers - royalty, light, death, life, injury, fertility, eloquence. The best images become certain at this point.
- Sun - Aries is diurnal, royal, quadrupedal and running like Leo, domicile of burning and drying Mars, which has in common with the heating and slightly drying Sun
- Moon - Taurus is nocturnal, notable, horned in appearance, domicile of slightly heating and moistening Venus, same nature as the Moon
- Saturn - Libra is diurnal, common, judicial, economical, domicile of moistening and slightly heating Venus, contrary nature to the malefic, producing temperate admixture
- Jupiter - Cancer is notable, nurturing, domicile of the slightly heating and moistening Moon, producing excellent airy admixture
- Mars - Capricorn is nocturnal, servile, thievish, outrageous, domicile of Saturn, contrary nature to the malefic, producing temperate admixture
- Venus - Pisces is nocturnal, notable, most fertile and entirely submerged, domicile of Jupiter, producing excellent airy admixture
- Mercury - Virgo is nocturnal and post-ascending Leo at the same time, domicile of alternating between moisture and dryness Mercury, here having temperate admixture inclining towards the active and fertile element

6. Degrees cause cosmic appearances, or have connection with fixed stars.
Sun - Aries 19° - recurrence years and the hind foot, Mercury bound
Moon - Taurus 3° - appearance phase and the Pleiades, Venus bound
Saturn - Libra 21° - chains and Alpha Librae, Jupiter bound
Cancer 15° - head and the degrees after the Beehive Cluster, Mercury bound
Mars - Capricorn 28° - tail which is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter, Mars bound
Venus - Pisces 27° - northern fish which is of the nature of Jupiter and moderately Venus, Mars bound
Mercury - Virgo 15° - evening rising and Gamma Librae, Venus bound

7. Depressions are the opposite degrees of the exaltations because of inherent contrariety.
- Sun is depressed in Libra with obscurity and death. 19th degree due to the chains and the presence of Saturn. Jupiter bound.
- Moon is depressed in Scorpio with loss of light and death. 3th degree due to the waning of the Moon and the claws which cause them. Mars bound.
- Saturn is ''depressed'' in Aries for it afflicts kingship with extremely dry qualities. 21st degree due to the hind foot and the presence of the Sun. Mars bound.
- Jupiter is depressed in Capricorn with cold and death. 15th degree of Capricorn due to the change of body, Venus bound.
- Mars is ''depressed'' in Cancer for it harms life with burning caustic influence. 28th degree due to the pincers. Saturn bound.
- Venus is depressed in Virgo with infertility and virginity. 27th degree due to the feet. Mars bound.
- Mercury is depressed in Pisces with silence and water. 15th degree due to the being in the middle of the sea. Jupiter bound
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According to Dorotheus and Manetho, Mars being in the sign or bound of Saturn, transiting or distributing to it is actually good, the reverse is bad. It depends on which planet is the transmitter, and which is the receiver (domicile ruler in this case). Inb4 conflict with depression of Saturn and exaltation of Mars.

The planets are stronger in signs closer to their exaltations, especially the ones adjacent, and they are weaker near their depressions. This is naturally resulting from their circular orbits including their epicyclical apogees and perigees, for they are exalted at one degree and one sign, but depressed at the opposite, and gradation of power ensues, as follows.

Exaltation at the degree + 9
Exaltation within 3° + 8
Exaltation within 7° + 7
Exaltation within 15° + 6
Exaltation + 5
Exaltation within two images/adjacent + 2
Exaltation within three images/exalting hemicycle + 1

Depression within 3° - 8
Depression within 7° - 7
Depression within 15° - 6
Depression - 5
Depression within two images/adjacent - 2
Depression within three images/depressing hemicycle - 1

Two signs are neutral, for example Cancer and Capricorn are neither exalting, nor depressing the Sun, they are neutral. Some astrologers like Valens used quadrants from exaltation degrees, others divided them into 24 steps, still others said that the sign succeeding the exaltation is bad.

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SATURN IS SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
aka the IMAGE OF THE WATER-POURER

In ancient astrology the method
for determining the ruler of the chart was much more complex.

There are references to the MASTER OF THE NATIVITY in many
surviving astrological texts from Hellenistic astrology tradition,
but not many surviving discussions about how to calculate it.

The approach in this lecture is derived from chapter 30
of Porphyry's Introduction to the Tetrabiblos
which is itself derived from
a lost work of definitions by Antiochus of Athens.

How to calculate the predominator (epikratētōr)
the master of the nativity (oikodespotēs geneseōs)
the co-master or joint master of the nativity (sunoikodespotēs)
and the lord of the nativity (kurios).
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- SATURN has rulership over rocks, stones, metals and minerals

Professions and types of people signified by SATURN
include miners and those that work with metals or minerals from the earth
or those that dig into the earth aka farm workers, gardeners, grave diggers,
- people who dig trenches or work in quarries
or work beneath its surface in tunnels and caves.
SATURN signifies plumbers, people who work with lead
brick makers, general labourers
industries where the main product is based on leather or hide
or those that necessitate working in cold, dark, or unpleasant conditions.
This includes night workers generally
and people who work with the dead in any context
whether they support the bereaved
or create products used in the funeral trade.
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Sun = planet of creativity, light and life
Sun rules Leo, and governs the height of summer



Saturn takes rulership of the signs that govern midwinter
Capricorn = its nocturnal home
and
Aquarius = its diurnal home.
Saturn is a diurnal planet
and more openly expressive in Aquarius than Capricorn
Capricorn and Aquarius = depths of winter in Northern Hemisphere
when life is inclined towards hibernation
and activities are impeded by the cold, dark environment
the influence of Saturn dominates the natural world
trees are bare, the ground is hard
Sun's light is weak and short-lived.

Winter is a melancholy time
Saturn governs the melancholic temperament.
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Greetings,
The attitude of the planet can be judge
by reporting the planet to 3 basic levels:

1.terrestrial level.
For example, if the planet is conducting businesses of a bad place
(12th place, 6th place … etc),
the planet tend to harm the native.
If the planet is not conducting businesses of such a place,
it tends to help the native.

2.planetary level.
For example, if the planet is properly configurated with their Light,
- Kronos and Zeus with Helios,
- Aphrodite and Ares with Selene
the planet tends to help the native.

3.cosmic level.
For example, if a planet in sect, occupies its domicile,
and the exaltation lord
- if it has one
- and if its from opposite sect
is not in configuration with the zoidion
the planet tends to help the native.

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Greetings
Fitness of the planet is reffering to potentiality.
As I already explain on this forum,
the potentiality it's a matter of capability, ability, strength, power
and indicate that something might have the chance to happen
or not to happen
or shows how something could be done well. In the previous message I was talking about attitude, not fitness.
In simple terms, the attitude is reffering to the potential
of the planet to do good or bad for the native.
The attitude indicates how the planet will act,
regarding the needs of the native. The cadent places are not weak in the sense of strengthens,
they are weak in pursuing the priorities in someone’s life
like pivotal places do.
The dynamic of the cadent and succedent places
will always be reported to the pivots.
The places must always be checked in triads:
12-1-2; 3-4-5; 6-7-8; 9-10-11. For example, the priorities in someone’s life
could be: health, shelter, love, achievements.
The 9th place is related with knowledge.
The native achievements will be guide by knowledge.
There is nothing weak here.

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I’m not following the medieval doctrine
but the babylonian one.
Every planet has a life cycle.
The maximum strength and vigour of a havey planet
will be in fact before it reaches its peak, after the first station,
in the phase so called, achronychial rise. about the life of human being.
The human is born, and its passing to 4 ages:
childhood (AS),
adulthood (MC),
manhood (DS),
old age (IC).
Between adulthood (MC)
and manhood (DS) you will find yourself most powerful ( 9th place).
The same logic, babilonian applied to the path of the havey planets
. Before the planet reaches its manhood, its power will be the greatest.
Retrogradation of a havey planet, in the first helical cycle,
force the planet to look forward, to the future.
After is shifting its position relative to Helios,
the planet is force to look backward, to the past.
The farther is the planet form its place of departure
the later in life the planet will give its gifts.
Its logical that retrograde planets, to grant their gifts later in life.
There are many things to say on this chapter.
I found the delineations of medieval era to be in general, slightly in error.




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SATURN EXALTATION = Libra 21°

AFFINITY WITH THE PLACES
Saturn - Libra as IC aka death - opposite MC

The Scales exalt Saturn
for they are the Anti-Midheaven of the Universe
changeable
cooling
and death-bringing because of the subterranean, opposing the Sun,
superior to Capricorn
and
configured through superior trigon with Aquarius - its own domicile.

The 21st degree is especially exalting because of Alpha Librae.
Saturn is ''...depressed...'' in Aries for it afflicts kingship
with extremely dry qualities.



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Stars are unfavorably placed when they are with their depressions
and unfavorable houserulers
when they are inoperative, especially with the VI and the XII
when they are not rejoicing with their sects and images
when setting under the beams and retreating
whenever they are not rising alongside favorable non-wandering stars


when they are ascending from SATURN
and
when they are ascending from Mars
both particularly with exchanges of rays
and superior placements.






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NATURE OF SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS


'...He does not easily get angry
and if he were angry
he would not be able to rule his own mind.
He wishes good to no one.


And he signifies old men
and weighty men
and burdens and fear, griefs
and sorrow and the complication of the mind.
And fraud and affliction and difficulty and loss;
also ancestors and what is left behind by the dead
mourning, and being orphaned, and old things.
Even grandfathers and fathers and brothers
and senior people and slaves
and mule drivers and men who are blamed
and robbers and those who dig up graves
and who rob the garments of the dead.



And fitters of leather and those who blame things.
He signifies magicians and masters of discord
and low-class men and eunuchs.
and a scarcity of speaking
and the knowledge of secrets
and one does not know what is in his mind
nor does a wise person make disclosures to him
about every obscure matter
And he signifies austerity and the ascetics of religions....'
[From Gr. Intr. VII.9.1390-1423]



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Ancient meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts
such as the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the Thema Mundi
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to any interested beginners reading this thread
the following valuable and useful advice is

generously provided by greybeard



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Houses do not rule planets.

Planets rule signs
and a sign ruled by a particular planet appears on the cusp of some house.

The planet that rules the sign on the cusp of a house is lord of that house, its ruler.

The ruler of a house has dominion over the affairs of the house
and of any planets found within the boundaries of the sign it rules.

Whether the ruler operates for good or evil depends on its conditioning
for which there are many measurements.

A planet in a house operates most strongly there because directly,
although its behavior is determined by its ruler, even though indirect.
Rather than "ruler"
we might say that the planet ruling the sign on a cusp "disposes" that house
and whatever it contains.

Houses are fixed in relation to Earth.
They are earth-bound, or mundane, and symbolize "surrounding circumstances".







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NATURE OF SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS


'...And he signifies travel by sea
and foreign travel [that is] far away and at great length, and bad.

And cleverness, envy and wits and seductions
and boldness in dangers and impediment, and hesitation
and being singular, and a scarcity of association with men
and pride and magnanimity and bluffing and bragging
and the subjection of men
also the managers of a kingdom
and of every work which comes to be with force and with evil and injuries

and a tendency to anger
even warriors and fettering and prison, also truth in words and esteem
and prudence and understanding
and experience, and offense, and obstinacy
and a multitude of thoughts and a depth of counsel
and insistence
and stubbornness in [his] method....'

Benjamin's Dykes' published work also contains introductions
and footnoted annotations.
For a pdf extract of material from various sections of his text see here.




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by the way

the Moon WHEN VISIBLE
is visible solely because

Moon REFLECTS the LIGHT of the SUN

and


SATURN sole DOMICILE ruler of Aquarius

is visible also
by REFLECTING the LIGHT of the SUN







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Appearance

When the dodekatemoria of the Hour-Marker, the Moon and the Lot of Fortune
fall in masculine images, they cause male nativities, and
they make females when they fall in feminine images.


Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages. Project Hindsight.
Schmidt, R. Hephaistio of Thebes Apotelesmatics Book II. Project Hindsight.
Sidonius, D., & Pingree, D. (1976). Carmen astrologicum. Pingree (Hrsg.), Dorothei Sidonii Carmen Astrologicum, Leipzig.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from

https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf


anyone keen to calculate dodekatemoria of the Hour-Marker,
the Moon and the Lot of Fortune
kaktuzz FREE online traditional software
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Planets have Joy in SIGNS as well as HOUSES


the 12th House is - among other things
a house of Sorrow, Slavery and Imprisonment

Saturn is all about restricting
restraining
shackling
sorrow
and so
Saturn has its JOY in 12th house
because Saturn loves it there for those reasons


SATURN also REJOICES in AQUARIUS
and so
an AQUARIUS 12th house Malefic SATURN rejoices
in all the misery, restraining, shackling, sorrow and so on





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SECT IN ASTROLOGY


SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS IS A DIURNAL PLANET



overview of the concept of sect in astrology
which is
the difference between day charts
and night charts.


Sect is a fundamental concept used in Hellenistic astrology
only been recovered over the past THIRTY years
through translations of ancient texts.
this talk gives a broad introduction to sect
first by establishing
how pervasive the concept is in ancient astrology
and then
to demonstrate how it works in practice through chart examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfPLTQuB9M


In a diurnal chart
the Sun is the sect light AKA the leader of the sect
Jupiter and Saturn are planets of the Dirunal Sect.


If Saturn is above the horizon Diurnally - Saturn is happy

BUT
If below the horizon in the diurnal chart

Saturn is still of the diurnal sect
— still of the sect in favour
— but is not going to be as happy
as when Saturn is above horizon in diurnal chart




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Sun onto SATURN favorably placed by day
effective for actions, wealth, joy and memories of ancient matters

When unfavorably placed by night, they cause dangers, inactivity,
judgements, bankruptcies, enmities with elders,
deaths of relatives, fearful sights and anxiety.



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REMINDER






The following table






clearly illustrates
below the column headed HOUSE
that

SATURN IS SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS

by the way

for beginners learning Traditional Astrology who do not know



HOUSE = DOMICILE
i.e.
House is aka Domicile











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Every kind of honour

is divined from

the nature of attending stars



for SATURN brings about power

based on wealth and amassing of treasure

The images and the stars cause the beginning of matters
the houserulers cause the end of matters.


SATURN and Mars are always bad
and they are better ascending
only when exceptionally placed.

They are exceedingly bad for the respective image
when ascending without benefic testimony,

and

when they are rising and culminating with undistinguished nativities
they make destitutes, wicked, disabled, and those who are short-lived.
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SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
remains in each sign
for
approximately
TWO AND ONE HALF YEARS
dependent on whether retrograde or direct




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Benjamin Dykes translation of Abu Mashars GREAT INTRODUCTION
http://theastrologypodcast.com/2019/...enjamin-dykes/


SATURN signifies also buildings and waters and rivers
and the quantities or measures of things, and the divisions of the earth
also affluence and a multitude of assets, and masteries which are done by hand
greed and the greatest poverty and the poor.

And he signifies travel by sea, and foreign travel
[that is] far away and at great length, and bad.

And cleverness, envy and wits and seductions, and boldness in dangers
and impediment, and hesitation, and being singular
and a scarcity of association with men, and pride and magnanimity
and bluffing and bragging and the subjection of men
also the managers of a kingdom
and of every work which comes to be with force and with evil and injuries
and a tendency to anger, even warriors and fettering and prison,
also truth in words, and esteem, and prudence and understanding,
and experience, and offense, and obstinacy
and a multitude of thoughts and a depth of counsel
and insistence, and stubbornness in [his] method.





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'.....the nature of Saturn
is cold, dry, melancholic, dark, of heavy harshness
And perhaps he will be cold [and] moist, heavy
of stinking odor, and he is of much eating and true esteem.
And he signifies works of moisture and the cultivation of land,
and peasants, and village companions, and the settlement of lands,
also buildings and waters and rivers,
and the quantities or measures of things,
and the divisions of the earth,
also affluence and a multitude of assets,
and masteries which are done by hand, greed
and the greatest poverty and the poor....'
~ ABU MA'SHAR http://www.bendykes.com/ita.php


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