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Re: Profecting charts

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The beginning of profections is to be able to count them. JUP has a chart. Maybe it can be linked again? Find the sign that profects to the ASC; the ruler of that sign is called the Lord/Lady of the year. Look at the signs ruled by that planet as they will be active. Next look to see if any planets are in those signs; they too will be activated during that year.

Next see if there is an exaltation ruler of the sign profecting to the ASC. Same as above. These activated planets, houses, and aspects (made in the natal) are going to be active during the year. Transits to and by these "active" planets will likely produce events. This is where we begin to understand that not all transits are equal. If a planet isn't activated, transits to it are likely to be non-starters.

At this point, most natal astrologers would then cast the SR chart, and knowing which planets have a key role, begin delineation from there.

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The beginning of profections is to be able to count them.
JUP has a chart. Maybe it can be linked again?

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Find the sign that profects to the ASC; the ruler of that sign is called the Lord/Lady of the year.
Look at the signs ruled by that planet as they will be active.
Next look to see if any planets are in those signs; they too will be activated during that year.

Next see if there is an exaltation ruler of the sign profecting to the ASC. Same as above.
These activated planets, houses, and aspects (made in the natal) are going to be active during the year.
Transits to and by these "active" planets will likely produce events.
This is where we begin to understand that not all transits are equal.
If a planet isn't activated, transits to it are likely to be non-starters.

At this point, most natal astrologers would then cast the SR chart, and knowing which planets have a key role, begin delineation from there.
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That is how the profection works. You count around the chart until you find the house of the year you want. You make that the first house. In this new chart the planets in the new angles are strong and effective that year. The planets that are found in cadant houses will be ineffective. If the sect has changed take that into account as well.

The essential dignity stays the same. The classical astrologers considered the so called accidental dignities to be more important because they are horoscopic: That is part of the natal chart. The essental dignities are zodiacal, and used to find the houses ruled by the planets.
So the planets do change houses ? Some people say they do and some people say they don't.

For example say you have a 7th house profection year, so the 7th house for that year becomes the 1st house, the 8th house becomes the 2nd house, the 9th house becomes the 3rd house, and say in the 9th house you have saturn, but as this house is cadent, saturn can't do much.

So the planets stay in the natal signs, so the dignity stays the same, but because of the change of houses, their energy can be strengthened or weakened.

Am i understanding this correctly, anybody ?
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So the planets do change houses ? Some people say they do and some people say they don't.

For example say you have a 7th house profection year, so the 7th house for that year becomes the 1st house, the 8th house becomes the 2nd house, the 9th house becomes the 3rd house, and say in the 9th house you have saturn, but as this house is cadent, saturn can't do much.

So the planets stay in the natal signs, so the dignity stays the same, but because of the change of houses, their energy can be strengthened or weakened.

Am i understanding this correctly, anybody ?
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My LOY Mars is almost ready to be taken over by Venus, thankfully.

Mars has had me twice this year, causing mayhem. All i've learnt from it, is what my natal mars is all about, but i knew this anyway.
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