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Unread 08-21-2019, 04:48 PM
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Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

I have got Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node in my natal. I think this is related to my pain in my life. What do you think of this natal aspect?

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Re: Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

Chiron conjunct Moon can be tough. I have Chiron/Moon/Mars conjunct in Cap in the 8th. Feels pretty rough sometimes.

Chiron /Moon can be very intuitive and can be compassionate and nurturing, so there's that.

But it can also be a distancing thing---maki9ng us feel vulnerable and uncomfortable when others try and get too close to us.

Chiron/Moon people feel the need to control emotional situations and may put walls ups that are barriers to true intimacy.

Your North Node there says that this is the lifetime that you will work on these issues by putting in a good effort to be close to there and to express your feelings, sincerely and openly.

What signs and house placements?
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I have read the book “Chiron, rainbow bridge between the Inner and the Outer planets” by Barbara Hand. I recommend it. In her book she says that Chiron conjunct the North node means that you are supposed to be an initiator, healer or spiritual teacher. You will be frustrated until you find this way of life. I have seen that Oprah Winfrey and some spiritual teachers have Chiron conjunct the NN. It is a highly karmic aspect.

According to Barbara, Chiron unlocks the conscious awareness of the outer planets.

I believe that she is right. When we willingly connect to our pain and we follow it down to its roots in the subconscious mind, we see what’s in there and we will be able to start to heal and let go and transform at a deep level. We will no longer merely follow impulses from the subconscious mind, feeling stuck in our patterns. We will be able to start to make changes in the inner manuscript that is creating our life.

From that place we can start to see through illusions and see the truth of how we are all connected at a deep level and how magical life is (Neptune). We can feel more empowered since we realize that we have the power to change our lives and get what we want and need by doing shadow work (Pluto). We also see how the energy of Uranus wants us to break free from our programming and help us align with our true self.

We are given the wounds we are meant to help other people to heal. Yours has to do with things related to the moon like nurturing, the mother and your childhood programming and your emotions. Also look at the house and sign that Chiron is in for more info.
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Re: Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

Hallelujah, you're about to turn your pain into future good, great path, very transformative indeed. Just curious, which sign is it?
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Re: Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

Hi all, Thank you. My Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node is in Gemini sign.
Lada's Vedic natal chart=9th house
Western Placidus=8th house.

Katydid,
yes, I can relate to most thing that you've said. In the past, I do put up a wall barrier, I don't express my emotions. I just couldn't even when I want to, I convinced myself not to so I would feel safe... I think is due to fear of being belittled, fear of being used, taken for granted, fear of rejection but I have overcome this in recent years. I took the risk. Risked all my fear and now I am in a happy marriage. Thank you

NeptunianRainbow,
Thank you for your extensive information. I am planning to buy some astrology books. I don't know which one to get first. I will add this book into my wishlist
About being healer... I used to be there when people need me. I will be their listener for hours, helping them with some advice. But spiritual teacher, healer, does this mean career path? I don't have the confidence to be a spiritual teacher. An Initiator as in how? to start something? a project/movement that helps people?

Meluzina,
Thanks for the encouraging words
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Re: Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

8th house is another signification of 'wounded place' but also place of turning into power, the deepest secret wish and it also stands for occult and psychology. You should become a sort of therapist, not only classical psychology but maybe astrological, tarot, ....
Now, I will theorize wildly on that little information. Chiron gemini 8th house. Ok, that looks like problems with communication, as you said communicating your emotions, but also generally there might be a problem with messages (possible you get them intuitively) that are not understood by others, you have information to say, but you might feel like you can't give it further. You might see things that others don't want to realize. But still, people might understand you, just on different level which turns out after some time. People might tell you they don't understand but it has effect on them. You might communicate and understand on different plane, underlying, invisible, intuitive field. And there might be also a gap between you and people like they don't get to the closest circle of yours... maybe that you won't rather let them, which you do unconsciously. Moon in gemini is **** scared to let people close to them, to make deep connections with them, because the closer you get the more hurtful it is when they betray you, right? But it's about reconnecting with your deepest parts after all. You might be probably curious and you might dig deep but you might present it to others in a way that is uncomfortable, like dark chaos approaching. You should cultivate this alternative language. I think this chiron invites you to master the communication of the deepest darkest emotions and secrets. You can make people uncomfortable, but after it's finished, they will thank you.

North node gemini 8th house. Mercury (Hermes) the messenger of gods can fetch the information from the underworld. He can even escort people out of that place. North node dares you to make friends, to be a contribution to your surroundings, to bring them information. And because of the house and conjunction with the moon, you can bring out deep emotions, use intuition to see through. But that's not spiritual healer in the sense of guru now-it-all, seen-it-all, let everyone know the universal truth, not at all, gemini north node is about the human little truths about people around you, about our earthly lives - this truth about themselves that heals. You say you can listen, that's great, that's a first step, but you also have to speak.

Do you have any inclination to psychology or psychosomatics or so?
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Re: Natal-Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node

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Hi all, Thank you. My Chiron conjunct Moon conjunct North Node is in Gemini sign.
Lada's Vedic natal chart=9th house
Western Placidus=8th house.

About being healer... I used to be there when people need me. I will be their listener for hours, helping them with some advice. But spiritual teacher, healer, does this mean career path? I don't have the confidence to be a spiritual teacher. An Initiator as in how? to start something? a project/movement that helps people?



I read somewhere else in the book that you could be a healer by being a stay at home mom or working with some environmental issue. I have read something similar before about Chiron. Our minds may believe that we have to do something huge and public. Some people feel compelled to be public, some don´t. What´s important is to channel the energy. Perhaps your calling is to share your presence and advice to people in pain, that is a great gift.

Btw I recently noticed that the author Jeff Brown (who is writing about the importance of processing pain) has Jupiter conjunct Chiron at the top of a kite formation.
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8th house is another signification of 'wounded place' but also place of turning into power, the deepest secret wish and it also stands for occult and psychology. You should become a sort of therapist, not only classical psychology but maybe astrological, tarot, ....
I have always been there for my friends and given them advise for their troubles. I've been into astrology at a very young age.

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Now, I will theorize wildly on that little information. Chiron gemini 8th house. Ok, that looks like problems with communication, as you said communicating your emotions, but also generally there might be a problem with messages (possible you get them intuitively) that are not understood by others, you have information to say, but you might feel like you can't give it further. You might see things that others don't want to realize. But still, people might understand you, just on different level which turns out after some time. People might tell you they don't understand but it has effect on them. You might communicate and understand on different plane, underlying, invisible, intuitive field.
yes, is true especially on this "You might see things that others don't want to realize." and this "But still, people might understand you, just on different level which turns out after some time." Yes, it took her some time to understand it. She only understood it after she went out to explore and try to observe what I have told her. Then she came back and tell me she finally realizes it.

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And there might be also a gap between you and people like they don't get to the closest circle of yours... maybe that you won't rather let them, which you do unconsciously. Moon in gemini is **** scared to let people close to them, to make deep connections with them, because the closer you get the more hurtful it is when they betray you, right? But it's about reconnecting with your deepest parts after all. You might be probably curious and you might dig deep but you might present it to others in a way that is uncomfortable, like dark chaos approaching. You should cultivate this alternative language. I think this chiron invites you to master the communication of the deepest darkest emotions and secrets. You can make people uncomfortable, but after it's finished, they will thank you
I know the risk when people come close. But I actually desire someone would and someone worthy enough to come close and delve into the depth of communication with me of discovering the dark side of the world. But you know, when I talk to them, is like they have this mature look in their face but can't even believe or know how abortion was done etc etc. Like I don't know how to continue a conversation with a person that only gives me a disbelieve look all the time. I feel drained of explaining too, especially when they don't believe, I have to supply them with more facts. I need a mutual exchange but is hard to find people that click with me. Or may be some don't even try to come near because intimidated by my heavy western 1st house (pluto libra Asc, saturn conjunct mars scorpio).

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North node gemini 8th house. Mercury (Hermes) the messenger of gods can fetch the information from the underworld. He can even escort people out of that place. North node dares you to make friends, to be a contribution to your surroundings, to bring them information. And because of the house and conjunction with the moon, you can bring out deep emotions, use intuition to see through. But that's not spiritual healer in the sense of guru now-it-all, seen-it-all, let everyone know the universal truth, not at all, gemini north node is about the human little truths about people around you, about our earthly lives - this truth about themselves that heals. You say you can listen, that's great, that's a first step, but you also have to speak.

Do you have any inclination to psychology or psychosomatics or so?
Quite some people have told me that they really like talking and hanging out with me. They find me mature and different from others like plenty of good advise to offer them in different areas of their life. Well, I guess I am already doing my north node contributions

Yes, I feel like I can read them without even trying it comes so naturally (sorry, I know this sounds like bragging)... I also know how they would react so sometimes I have to keep it to myself. They are not strong enough to take the info/truth from me or I might lose them. For these fragile soft soul, I have to always put in so much effort into how I can convey it nicely, kindly and compassionately without offending them. Tiring for the long-haul. (I've mercury sextile pluto too so I guess this aspect also helps me to see through people)

Sigh, "dare me to make friends"... Idk, I am losing faith in friendship. They doesn't last. And I don't appreciate superficial friendship.

"inclination to psychology" yes.

And Thank you very much for the amount of info!
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I read somewhere else in the book that you could be a healer by being a stay at home mom or working with some environmental issue. I have read something similar before about Chiron. Our minds may believe that we have to do something huge and public. Some people feel compelled to be public, some don´t. What´s important is to channel the energy. Perhaps your calling is to share your presence and advice to people in pain, that is a great gift.

Btw I recently noticed that the author Jeff Brown (who is writing about the importance of processing pain) has Jupiter conjunct Chiron at the top of a kite formation.
How I wish I could be a stay at home mom, haha. I hope my husband can earn more and I just focus on my baby! ^^
I do feel compelled to be public.
Thanks & thanks for the book information too
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