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05-17-2009, 05:53 PM
 Niplan Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 865
Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree, so does it go from 1 - 30 deg. or from 0 - 30 deg.

and are aspects measured from the deg. they are on to the next deg. or is it the deg. between them.

Venus is at 29 deg, and say mars is at 29 something else.

Would it need to be 120 degree between them, or would it need to be 120, counting the 29th degrees as 1.

or would you start at the 30th degree being one.

Last edited by Niplan; 05-17-2009 at 05:56 PM.
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05-17-2009, 07:44 PM
 starlink Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I live in peace Posts: 6,350
Re: Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

Niplan, with Equal houses, you calculate a chart and when the Asc. falls at, lets say 17 degrees in a sign, then all other houses start at 17 degrees as well.
You are problably thinking of the Whole House system which start at 0°.01 of a sign.
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05-17-2009, 08:07 PM
 Niplan Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 865
Re: Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

I understand that the planet that rules the ascendent is what determins what degree the asc is in, but do the house cusps start on 1 degree, or 0 degree... and as to my other question..?

Last edited by Niplan; 05-17-2009 at 08:12 PM.
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05-17-2009, 08:16 PM
 katydid Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,810
Re: Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

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 Originally Posted by Niplan I understand that the planet that rules the ascendent is what determins what degree the asc is in, but do the house cusps start on 1 degree, or 0 degree... and as to my other question..?
I think you misunderstood what Starlink was saying. Whole Sign house system
is different than Equal House system.
Equal House system starts the asc the same as Placidus or regiomantus, then all houses follow in EQUAL size.
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05-17-2009, 10:06 PM
 astrologer50 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 13,695
Re: Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

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 Originally Posted by Niplan I understand that the planet that rules the ascendent is what determins what degree the asc is in, but do the house cusps start on 1 degree, or 0 degree... and as to my other question..?
The planet that rules the Asc is called the chart ruler in ANY house system and does not determine what degree an Asc sign is in.

House systems
Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_house_system#Equal_House
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
For further research try here...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&highlight=placidus+equal
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638&highlight=house+system

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

How then does an astrologer choose a house system? Well, the individual studying alone is more than likely to use Placidus Houses. The reason for this is simple - he has to consult an ephemeris in any case, and Raphael's Ephemeris is the most widely used, which gives the information needed for Placidus Houses.
Students who study with a recognised school are usually introduced to all of the house systems, but taught to use one far more than the others. This is usually the Equal House system, which incidentally is also the oldest one. In this house system, the twelve divisions are very much like spokes of a wheel, equally spaced at 30 degree intervals, with all houses being the same size. This is the easiest of the House systems to use, as it requires no further calculation. Once the Ascendant is known, one simply divides the rest of the chart using the Ascending degree as a starting point - so if the Ascendant is at 22 degrees Leo, this is take as the cusp of the first house, with the second house beginning at 22 degrees Virgo, the third at 22 degrees Libra and so forth.
The Equal House system is conceptually valid within today's astrological standpoint that every individual is free to become what their birth chart symbolises as their ultimate talent. The Ascendant has been shown to correspond to the way the person automatically approaches their environment - the 'persona' in Jungian terms. This person is therefore likely to approach every field of life in a specific way. A person with an Aquarius Ascendant, for example, will approach money-making and material values (2nd house) in a Pisces manner, will learn (3rd house) in an Aries manner, deal with family (4th house) in a Taurus manner and so forth.

The biggest criticism of the Equal House system concerns the position of the MC, which, using this system is more often than not the cusp of the tenth house (or any house) but rather is found within the 9th, 10th or 11th house.

The MC, being the highest point at birth, symbolises the aims and ambitions one works towards, and, by extension, one's career potential and public image. But these areas are also 10th house matters, devised, because of that house's association with Saturn, to show precisely these areas of life. It is therefore conceptually necessary (so goes the argument) that the MC be the cusp of the 10th house. For this reason, the Equal House system has a limited following outside the UK, although it is still the commonest House system within the UK.
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html

There is a member here on AW who uses Whole sign think Joseph Ledzion if you would to send PM

Last edited by astrologer50; 05-17-2009 at 10:08 PM.
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05-17-2009, 11:34 PM
 Niplan Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 865
Re: Does the equal house system cusp, start on 1 degree, or 0 degree

thanks i think i unraveled it.

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