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Violent Signs?

What would be a Violent Sign? I considered the planets, as just planets. I never thought of them as a sign. I thought that Leo is a sign. This link

http://www.astrodatabank.com/AS/ASWhoWillSurvive.htm

Is the reason I ask the question. Assuming that indeed, the house rulers(Like Leo on my ASC for example) are signs. Then, what would qualify as
violent signs?

Scorpio, maybe. And Taurus The Bull. Who contains some nasty stars like Algol. Are there any others?

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Re: Violent Signs?

That is interesting to look what what signs might be more violent than the other. I know Scorpio can sting quite a bit but it only does so when provoked. You're right about Leo. Emotion can be irrational and quick to come by. But Aries... that's another one. I've always related Aries with the hard headed child. I take a lot of fire signs to be quite temperamental with the possibility towards violence more than any other signs. However, with the right aspects most, if not all, of the planets can turn sour.

I like the site you posted. There's some good information and excellent questions, too.
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Re: Violent Signs?

The signs are classified as having special qualities, and some are referred to as violent. These qualities are used mostly in horary astrology. Those called violent are Aries, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn and Aquarius. A listing of all the qualities of the signs can be found on page 356 of Horary Astrology by Marc Edmund Jones.
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Re: Violent Signs?

Libra and Aquarius, Violent? Huge shockers. I'm wondering, what exactly is a conjunction? Well, I know what a conjunction is, but for example: Would the Signs/asteroids in question have to be in the same sign? Or not. Because according to the article. You would use a 5 degree orb for Algol.(Hence bringing it to 21). In which case, I have Venus 21 degrees in Aquarius. I believe Venus is one of the Lights referred too. Eeek! Lol Aquarius is in my 7th house where Saturn rules over it.
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Re: Violent Signs?

Fire signs in general seem to have a tendency towards violence... just because their so firey and passionate! Scorpio especially can be quite hot under the collar.
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Re: Violent Signs?

I wouldn't look to violent signs, although Mars-ruled Aries and Mars/Pluto-ruled Scorpio could come close. Rather, I would look at what is going on with Mars and perhaps Pluto in someone's chart. Mars relates to aggression. Pluto relates to a kind of ruthless control. Any sign is capable of violence--or of non-violence.
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Re: Violent Signs?

How do you define violence, confusedpisces?
The most emotionally violent, cruel and destructive people i've come across are virgos and cancers.
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How do you define violence, confusedpisces?
The most emotionally violent, cruel and destructive people i've come across are virgos and cancers.
Your dead on for Cancer. Don't know why were not put as violent signs. Push us far enough and we go from the nicest people in the world, to the people you'd be running from.
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Re: Violent Signs?

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How do you define violence, confusedpisces?
The most emotionally violent, cruel and destructive people i've come across are virgos and cancers.
That's a GREAT question!! Most assume violence to be physical, but there very well is emotional and verbal abuse/violence. I would agree that emotionally Cancer and Virgos probably best "hold a grudge". Depending on where Merc is you could find someone with a "sharp tongue" so would show more of the verbalism of violence, and Mars would show more of a focus on physical violence. I don't know if I agree with Aquarius of being any sort of violent?! I always view Aquarius as more of a free-spirit and generally unemotional, or maybe just more tolerant? Libra, Scorpio, and Capricorn though... most that I know definitely have strong thoughts/feelings/morals/ideals and when they feel challenged, LOOK OUT! So I definitely can see some violence there! But as waybread said, any sign is capable of violence.. otherwise you wouldn't have shows like Snapped on tv!!
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Re: Violent Signs?

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I've always related Aries with the hard headed child. I take a lot of fire signs to be quite temperamental with the possibility towards violence more than any other signs. However, with the right aspects most, if not all, of the planets can turn sour.

I like the site you posted. There's some good information and excellent questions, too.
I find myself in disagreeing in that Aries indeed are hard headed, stubborn about having their way so thus might think about becoming violent but by the time they possibly are going to act, they have come up with something else that has nothing to do with it and forget about it .

Mm, and by Aries I mean in general (whatever planet that maybe), but perhaps those with more Aries planets might be more inclined to be violent, or if with an odd placement? I know myself, I have many Aries planets but I have never acted on my "violent" thoughts, merely sulked/pouted/screamed/yell/thrown things until my angers have passed.
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Re: Violent Signs?

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What would be a Violent Sign? I considered the planets, as just planets. I never thought of them as a sign. I thought that Leo is a sign. This link

http://www.astrodatabank.com/AS/ASWhoWillSurvive.htm

Is the reason I ask the question. Assuming that indeed, the house rulers(Like Leo on my ASC for example) are signs. Then, what would qualify as
violent signs?

Scorpio, maybe. And Taurus The Bull. Who contains some nasty stars like Algol. Are there any others?
In the article you've posted a link to, the author clearly explains that the violent signs are Capricorn, Aquarius, Libra, Aries and Scorpio - because Saturn (rules Cap, Aqu, exalted in Libra) and Mars (rules Aries, Scorpio) have dignity in those signs, not that someone born with an emphasis on one or more of these signs is "violent". In my view, the most violent and ruthless aspect is Mars/Pluto.
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Re: Violent Signs?

I'm surprised by how Libras are supposedly more aggressive than they're thought to be. The wall of 'I'm so sweet' should come down.
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Re: Violent Signs?

I've found people with Mars Saturn square to be pretty violent at core, restrained a bit but you can still get that vibe from them. By signs, Aries would be most violent in that traditional way. I've also met plenty of very violent and aggressive Libras latetly I so don't buy that whole 'balance, peace and harmony' stuff.
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