Tamara said:Wait, wait... Nobody who's really aware in astrology blame natal chart in their faults. Natal and predictive astrology shows possibilities that something might happen but we have free choice. Also natal astrology shows inborn tendencies of our character but we can change it, etc. I'm sorry that you think this way of people who uses astrology...
Leon said:Has anyone here actually sat there to think about the reasons for why they have problems with other people? It seems like we want to play stupid and place the issues on the chart. If you suck at life it's your fault, not your chart's fault. Discuss.
blame natal chart in their faults.
rogue_red said:but i never see anything in my natal chart as being set in stone and beyond my control.
Rogue
lillyjgc said:Sundance-Yes I totally agree with you.I see a Natal chart as being like a roadmap that only has the major highways marked.We can detour whenever and wherever we like. We have *free will*, and like you said, *the ability to transcend our chart* but I think only after we have *come to terms* with our chart and our choices.
I think what annoys some of us is when people *blame* their behaviour on their chart, instead of using their chart as a means of better understanding and *knowing* themselves.eg: "You'll have to accept my anti social behaviour because I have a .......(insert relevant aspect here).....". When I see/hear statements like that I instinctively feel that the person is blocked in their understanding of their own power in the situation.It's another way of *not taking full responsibility* for oneself. Same for blaming the transits when things seem to be *going awry*...(Often when things appear to be going *wrong* they are actually going *right* but sometimes we don't have the wisdom to understand that at the time.).
We grow physically.So obviously everything in our chart has an organic nature.Our chart *progresses*. We *progress*.Even if we resist change, it will inevitably happen, beyond our control.
A very wise man once told me *You can change your path, your destiny, at any moment, purely by the choices you do or do not make*.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc
The_Sundance_Kid said:I don't think anybody does, do they?
Alan Leo, or someone, said the whole point of a birth chart was to learn how to transcend it and so be truly free.
Has anyone here actually sat there to think about the reasons for why they have problems with other people? It seems like we want to play stupid and place the issues on the chart. If you suck at life it's your fault, not your chart's fault. Discuss.
Has anyone here actually sat there to think about the reasons for why they have problems with other people? It seems like we want to play stupid and place the issues on the chart. If you suck at life it's your fault, not your chart's fault. Discuss.
I've seen some charts that are so restrictive that its obvious that the body has been refusing to follow the chart for quite a long series of lives.