Mars is in his own dominion in Scorpio, empowered. Does he also rule the house he occupies?
Is the conjunction applying or separating? What is the orb?
Are there aspects to other bodies? Is one or the other of the conjunction more impacted, emphasized by these?
The area between 15 Libra and 15 ScorpioAstrologers say that Via Combusta
is associated with 'malefic' Mars/Saturn energies.
I have Mars and Saturn conjunct in Via Combusta
in my natal chart in Scorpio.
Scorpio is intercepted in my chart. The house cusp is in Libra.
In my natal chart applying
but in my secondary progression separating
since Mars turned direct.
In my life I feel Saturn overpowers Mars
.... Even in Scorpio. The orb is 2°40'.
They touch almost everything in my chart.
Trine my Moon, sextile my Jupiter, oppose my Mercury, trine my ascendant
quincunx my Sun and Venus, trine my MC
.... And square my Part of Fortune.
Scorpio is intercepted in my chart. The house cusp is in Libra.
In my natal chart applying but in my secondary progression separating since Mars turned direct. In my life I feel Saturn overpowers Mars.... Even in Scorpio. The orb is 2°40'.
They touch almost everything in my chart. Trine my Moon, sextile my Jupiter, oppose my Mercury, trine my ascendant, quincunx my Sun and Venus, trine my MC.... And square my Part of Fortune.
Combustion isn't the same as the Via Combusta.
Combustion is when a planet is too close to the Sun.
The Via Combusta is a 30° space in the Zodiac and the Moon is afflicted here.
We are considering the radix. So, Mars is intercepted, ultimately applies to Saturn but is Rx at birth, with an orb of -2°40'?
Each and all of these conditions contains a good deal of information about you, and Mars-Saturn. Now comes study of the literature, to see what each of these conditions implies, then synthesis within your own mind.
by the way
i.e.You read the natal chart as fixed, not progressed.
Mars is either direct or rx in the moment of birth.
an image of chart in question would be useful if available to viewAstrologers say that Via Combusta is associated with 'malefic' Mars/Saturn energies.
I have Mars and Saturn conjunct in Via Combusta in my natal chart in Scorpio.
an image of chart in question would be useful if available to view
otherwise it's all generalisation
and
generalisation, although notoriously fun
is unreliable
Scorpio is intercepted in my chart. The house cusp is in Libra.
Progressions were calculated differently than modern astrologers do and they were only used for mundane charts, not personal charts.In my natal chart applying but in my secondary progression separating since Mars turned direct.
You're reading the chart wrong. A slow planet can never aspect a faster planet, unless the slow planet is retrograde.They touch almost everything in my chart. Trine my Moon, sextile my Jupiter, oppose my Mercury, trine my ascendant, quincunx my Sun and Venus, trine my MC.... And square my Part of Fortune.
Mars is chasing Saturn. Saturn the slower planet chasing is not chasing Mars. That would be daft.Saturn in 11°Sco 0' and Mars in 13°Sco 42'. So it's an applying aspect. That's why I feel Saturn overpowers Mars even he's in own sign.
I've never seen anything of any importance in a progressed chart, except in two cases. One is when a planet changes signs and the other when a planet in an applying aspect changes directions.My Mars has already turned direct in my progressed chart so they are separating.
Good explanation - many thanksHi helike13,
House systems are relatively new in astrology. If you believe the Zodiac is 27,000 years old, then it's only been in the last 1,500 years or so that house system were used.
Sumerian star lists always begin with Pisces. The last time Earth was in Pisces was 25,000 BCE. That suggests, but doesn't prove, the Zodiac was created around that time.
It's possible the Sumerian created the Zodiac then worked backwards to identify the ages.
Still, that begs the question, "Why Pisces?"
If the Sumerians created the Zodiac during the Age of Taurus, why not work backwards to Taurus and stop? Why keep going to Pisces? Or, why not go beyond Pisces? Did something important happen around 25,000 BCE?
By the time Earth entered Pisces again around Year 0, the Sumerians had been dead and gone for ~1,900 years.
Anyway, you don't really need a house system and the ancients didn't use one. I don't see where they really add anything, except complications.
Progressions were calculated differently than modern astrologers do and they were only used for mundane charts, not personal charts.
You're reading the chart wrong. A slow planet can never aspect a faster planet, unless the slow planet is retrograde.
In your chart, Mercury has separated from the opposition to Mars/Saturn so that is no longer an aspect. Mercury has also separated from Jupiter, so that is not an aspect.
Sun/Venus are inconjunct the Ascendant.
Moon has separated from Jupiter, so that's not an aspect.
Moon is applying in trine to Mercury but separated from the sextile to Saturn and is in trine with retrograde Mars.
Jupiter/Saturn have separated from their opposition/trine and are retrograde moving away from your Ascendant.
Your PoF is at 15*° Leo and Sun/Venus are sextile.
Mars is chasing Saturn. Saturn the slower planet chasing is not chasing Mars. That would be daft.
I've never seen anything of any importance in a progressed chart, except in two cases. One is when a planet changes signs and the other when a planet in an applying aspect changes directions.
You don't need a progressed chart for that. All you need is an ephemeris and it'll take you all of 5 minutes to see if there's anything important to note.
The reason I say a planet "chasing" another is because that's what's happening. You're chasing something you'll never get: wealth, power, fame, good fortune, good relationships, good health, career, or whatever those planets signify in your chart.