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Unread 03-07-2015, 11:20 AM
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05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

Hi guys,

I thought it would be fund to take a look at the transits on the 5th of May 2015 at 5 am (Egypt time, where I live). The chart looks intense, so I thought I'd share it here from some practice and insights.

The oppositions between the 1st and 7th tell me that there will (continue) to be violence between the rebels and the regime. (If any of you doesn't know, we have had a revolution here in 2011, and the effect is still lingering on). The Square between Pluto and Uranus certainly intensifies the effect. The Sun Square Jupiter aspect is not helping either.

In fact, if it were not for *very* few trines and one sextile, this chart would just be disastrous. Any take on the energies involved?
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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

Hello,

We must see the chart of the egypt in order to predict, the 5th of may chart would be the transit.





I'm not an expert in interepting mundane (countries) charts.
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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

Yes, please post the chart of Egypt...
and the chart of the current government, following the ouster of the previous president, Morsi, would be useful...
AND charts for any heads of state who might be active "players" in the dynamics of that date in May.
So much to consider.
However, such dynamics are difficult to pin down to a given event. More likely it will be a general energy that many will experience and each will play-out in different ways at different locations.
Remember, we in the states will also experience the same configuration, all be it at a different time of day.
But be wise with this insight.... Make sure YOU are prepared ahead of time. Stock up on food and water, etc. It never hurts to be prepared—just in case.
We will continue to watch and learn...
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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

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Hello,

We must see the chart of the egypt in order to predict, the 5th of may chart would be the transit.





I'm not an expert in interepting mundane (countries) charts.
Thank you for posting this chart but can you also post the date/time/location info it is based on?
Just a little background and why it is considered the chart of Egypt would be very useful. After all, Egypt has been around for a long, long time

Thanks.
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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

Hi.
Your thread "hit my eye' because, for one reason, that is the eve of my birthday the following day, For another reason is that 55 is the esoteric number for Miriam, or Mary, the Virgin Mother.

I want to thank you for posting as it brought something to my attention that I missed, that occurred a little over a month ago, and will need to pay attention to, albeit though just briefly, again come the middle of May when it will occur once again.

Look at Saturn and the True North Node. In your chart they are at a distance of 53* 19' 14" from one another and Saturn is retrograde.
A Septile is an aspect of 51* 25' 43" {actually, to be precise, or as close as possible to precise as we are dealing with an irrational number in the Septile, the seconds of a degree come to 42.8556..."].
Those astrologers that are hip to this little known of aspect allow a degree and a half maximum orb of allowance for aspects. So that would be 52* 55' 43" and the North Node and Saturn will still be a bit to far apart for this to be consider an affecting Septile aspect.

Dan Rudhyar wrote once, that little is know of the septile but noted that Marc Edmond Jones called it "an aspect of fatality". The was back in the early 1980's just prior to Dane passing and there has been a bit of advancement in knowledge about the septile, but not a whole lot.

For Cairo time, on last Jan 31at apprx 10:53 p.m. Saturn and the True N. Node were in perfect septile aspect.

Here's the chart for the exact moment that happened in Cairo.




Working with the Nodes, which for the most part of time, move retrograde in relation to everything else and a Planet that spends most of it's time in direct motion and trying to line up an aspect is a challenging mental exercise...it can really test ones patience trying to figure it out ...and when Saturn decides to go retrograde and the Nodes direct, at the same time...you have your self a genuine mind tweeker... it can make one sit and spin in their chair.

Here's the chart for one second past midnight on this coming May 17th, Cairo time. The True N.Node and Saturn are 01* 28' 20" apart in this chart...that is within the 01* 30' of allowable orb for a septile.

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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

I noticed in the chart for January, above, that Pluto was septile to Venus at that time also.

Now check this one out.
As I did notice that Mats will be getting pretty near a septile aspect with the S. Node in your chart for this coming May 5th.

On this coming May 13th at a little past 3:08 am. Cairo time, Mars will exactly septile the S. Node.

Also, at that exact moment, Venus will be in a quintile aspect to Lilith.
Mars will be in quintile to Jupiter which in turn will be tredecile to Saturn...but also involved in that linkage will be Vesta and Chiron quintile Mars.

There will be another quintile aspect happening between the Sun and Neptune at that moment also.

Now, let's check out the Sabian Symbolism for the Asc. of the event.
It is in the 13th degree of Aries and according to the late, 20th century, master astrologer, philosopher, musician and symbologist, Dane Rudhyar, from his book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala", the 13th degree of Aries is:

"ARIES 13°: AN UNEXPLODED BOMB REVEALS AN UNSUCCESSFUL SOCIAL PROTEST.

KEYNOTE:
An immature evaluation of the possibility of transforming suddenly the status quo.

The symbol pictures the result of a particular attempt to resolve the conflict between two concept-feelings of order. Resolution by violence fails because the ego-power at this stage of the process of individualization is far too strong. 'The State' thwarts attempts at popular revolution, because these are premature expressions of a consciousness which is not free, but can only react 'wildly' to constraint and to a central ruling power. It is thus a symbol of immature refusal to conform, in the name of an over-idealistic desire for harmony and peace.

This is the third stage of the third five-fold sequence. A negative attempt at reconciling the spiritual ideal and the very earthly reality, denying the validity of the latter. It suggests
ADOLESCENT FRUSTRATION."



Here's the chart:



The N. Node provides the meaning of all the ephemeral activity at any given moment through the Sabian Symbol found for the Sign and degree it is in, and the North Node at that time will be in the 10th degree of Libra. [ibid.]

"LIBRA 10°: HAVING PASSED SAFELY THROUGH NARROW RAPIDS, A CANOE REACHES CALM WATERS.

KEYNOTE:
The self-control and poise necessary to reach a steady state of inner stability.

This symbol hardly needs to be commented upon. It could be related to the fifth symbol of the preceding five-fold sequence referring to guru-chela relationship at the actional level. Here we are dealing essentially with the emotional life and its crises. At the next — mental and individual — level, the concluding symbol will suggest the perfect and smooth working of the intellect ruled by logic and simplicity of means.

This is the fifth stage of the thirty-eighth sequence; it concludes what was begun at the first stage. The inner 'revelation' which brought about dramatic confrontations can now be meditated upon as it is reflected on the calm waters of the mind. As a Keyword one may use the term
RELIEF."


I hope this gives you some help by providing a bit of foresight.
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Re: 05/05/2015 @ 5:00 am

As that chart above for this coming May 13th can be approached as like that of a horary chart, you may wish to know the symbolism of the Part of Fortune for that moment and that of the mid haven, which represents the "WHY" of the situation in a mundane view but it also represents the "HOW" when one is seeking the course of action for spiritual evolution.

The mid haven is in the 9th degree of Capricorn; [ibid]

"CAPRICORN 9°: AN ANGEL CARRYING A HARP.

KEYNOTE:
The revelation of the spiritual meaning and purpose at the core of any life situation.

This picture simply says that 'heaven is within us.' All we have to do is to be open and listen to the total harmony of life, a harmony in which we play a part that is necessary to the completeness and meaning of the whole. In order to do this we have to surrender our separative ego- consciousness and flow with the universal current which, to the religiously minded person, is the Will of God.

This is the fourth symbol of the series. The technique it implies is that of
ATTUNEMENT to the rhythm of universal life. Angels are to be considered personalizations of various aspects of this life, and totally subservient to its rhythms and purposes."


The Part of Fortune, in the 4th degree of Aquarius, symbolizes, not riches or wealth... which is a overwhelmingly common misconception, but rather it provides the most "fortunate" means of assisting the facilitation of the transition from that of which is symbolized by the Asc. to become that of the Desc. and provides the perfect complimentary means of assisting the symbolic "HOW" .

{Always use the diurnal formula, it is the only one that will derive the Part of Fortune from a chart. The reverse formula, the so called nocturnal, provides the Part of Sun aka Part of Soul or Spirit and only that. ...imho, of course. } [ibid.]

"AQUARIUS 4°: A HINDU YOGI DEMONSTRATES HIS HEALING POWERS.

KEYNOTE:
The disciplined use of spiritual energies in restoring the natural harmony disturbed by man's inharmonic attempts to transcend nature through mind.

Civilization implies a process of transcending compulsive and rigid biological drives while making use, in a refined and mentalized way, of what it cannot control. The goal of a true civilization — Western civilization being to a large extent a caricature of it — is the development of a humanity composed of self-motivated and responsible individuals freely associating according to harmonic patterns in order to produce a vast spiritual chord of consciousness fully actualizing the potentialities inherent in the archetype, MAN. The process of individualization and civilization is full of dangers, and for a very long time it is obsessed by karmic shadows, the results of individual and collective deviations and perversions. Such results most often lead to disease. It is the spiritual duty of individuals who have been able to tap the vast reservoir of spiritual forces pervading our planet to use these energies for healing their less-fortunate comrades.

This fourth stage symbol refers to a technique which not only can be used for the healing of physical illnesses but for the 'making whole' of whatever has lost its natural root integration and has not yet reached the holistic state of perfect harmony and identification with the 'divine' whole. Self-discipline, purity of motive, compassion, faith in the divine order are required — and the
FOCUSING OF SPIRITUAL ENERGY."
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