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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

And today, Jupiter has moved out of Sun's beams/combustion. No longer weakened or hidden.

Mercury remains under Sun's beam.

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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

This is just heartbreaking.

The police announced at 4 pm Portland time that there is not foul play involved, so I guess in police talk that means a suicide. She was wearing the same clothes so has been there the whole time.

A woman posted a message on the Oregonian website that it is her grandparents that own the property. It is an old logging road no one uses and he was taking a tractor there when he spotted her car around 10 am. Her body was found 50 yards from the car. ( I think the moon was about 5 or 6 Sag, as I had checked moon's position about that time this am.)

How very, very sad for the family and especially her children who are not really going to understand this-not that anyone can really understand suicide.
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I guess 10:30 is a better time.
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This is just heartbreaking.

The police announced at 4 pm Portland time that there is not foul play involved, so I guess in police talk that means a suicide. She was wearing the same clothes so has been there the whole time.
They expect some results today from the autopsy although the drug tests will take a few weeks to come back. The husband had mentioned that his wife had a bad headache the last few days so, it's conceivable that she may have had an aneurism and if so, this should be able to be picked up by the autopsy. If this is the case, there may have been memory loss, confusion, and a few other symptoms that could explain her actions leading up to this.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Such sad news!

So there was no attacker. I guess it was incorrect of me to assume there was one. I still see, in the charts, someone taking off with something that she owns.

Twenty four miles away from home is a long way from where she was supposed to be. I wonder what she was up to. Something is off!
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Such sad news!

So there was no attacker. I guess it was incorrect of me to assume there was one. I still see, in the charts, someone taking off with something that she owns.

Twenty four miles away from home is a long way from where she was supposed to be. I wonder what she was up to. Something is off!

Wait till all the facts are in to judge the interpretation.

edited to add from a report today -- "The case is an “open death investigation,” and police are not ready yet to release Huston’s cause of death as of yet, they said at a press conference."
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Wait till all the facts are in to judge the interpretation.
Yes, I will. I was just thinking out loud. I can't keep my mind from monkeying around.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Latest broadcast ...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...police-n174391


It's noted that the cause of death is asphyxiation caused by a sleeping pill overdose. There was a suicide note.

A little troubling that I have not yet seen this stated in a live broadcast by police. Also, a tox screen usually takes a few days although, it may have been rushed.
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Neptune in 2nd. The possession of drugs/pills.
Mercury would be her health, her headache.
Location was somewhere behind a chained gate which usually doesn't get noticed. Fits the interception part.
Moon also squares Mars after trining Saturn, and Chiron. Miss that.


Maybe the 5.45pm chart when she left the house should be used instead. Significator intercepted in 8th
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

In Claudette's original charts, Jupiter rules both the 1st and the 12th. Sun, L8 signifying death, separates from Jupiter, which is why I judged she was dead from the beginning. However, I didn't notice that it might also show the cause of the death, Jupiter also being L12, secret enemies (mental illness, self-undoing).

Sad! Just sad!
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Latest on the news feeds ---

The medical examiner listed the cause of death for the 38-year-old as “asphyxiation,” and ruled the death a “suicide.”The toxicology tests won’t come back for a few weeks, but preliminary tests by the medical examiner point to suicide, most likely caused from ingesting the OTC sleeping pills.
Captain Jeff Kosmicki of Newberg-Dundee Police said:
"Based on the totality of the evidence, detectives and the medical examiner have concluded that Jennifer had been deceased fairly close to the time she was reported missing.”
As I noted yesterday, it is too soon for the tox tests to be back - that will take a few more weeks.
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I was just going over some notes to post when I heard the ME said today she died from hanging. Oh dear. (this clears the confusing statement made yesterday, "death by asphyxiation caused by sleeping pill overdose" which just didn't make sense as a box of benydryl isn't anywhere NEAR enough for a lethal overdose. So where did the asphyx. come in, I wondered.

After astroquest's comment about the 5:45 pm chart perhaps being a starting point I am inclined to agree. ( And the other charts Marinka posted become more significant, I think, in light of what we now know.) Jup ruling ASC in the 8 H: now we know she caused her own death. The moon making a card. cross, squaring MC, IC and pluto: not only a CC; but the whole ordeal became very public (MC) and also involving hundreds of people searching around her home-IC). She had her plan of action, evidently, and began the "action"-cardinal signs-when she left home. Saturn was also quincunx the DSC in Gemini: stress on communication with others. This is chilling: Part of Fortune in 5:45 chart is 25 scorp: the opposite point where there can be stress is Algol 25 Taurus-"losing one's head"-yes, her head was profoundly affected.

6:50 pm: mars conj. MC-"a force against self", mars rules 4 H. Both anaretic=unstable. This is 30 minutes after she was last seen-and 20+ miles away. Had she chosen this site beforehand or did she drive around looking for an out of the way place? This we will probably never know, but it is fitting, I think. Pluto rules the 10 H: this location did become very public. Did she take the benydryl then, to calm herself down/sedate herself somewhat so she could carry out her plan?

7:33 pm: Pluto conj. ASC. Transformation of the body. The ME said they felt she died shortly after disappearing, so this would fit. (As gruesome as it is, they will probably come up with a good approximation based on stomach contents.)

One thing that really strikes me is all that cancer in the 7 H. in the charts. There definitely is a family dynamic present here we may never know about-and probably don't need to know about-it's their family and their right to privacy. I do wonder about that text from her mother at 6:22 pm that she never answered.

As sad as this is for everyone, there is one element that I find unsettling and that is that she clearly did not want her body to be found: phone off, secluded area, and even in the detail of closing the gate behind her. Anyone who has lived/lives in rural areas is familiar with a common courtesy with gates-anyone's gate-and that is to close it if you have passed through it. To leave it open would arouse suspicion, in this case, or at least be noticeable; because people in general are very good about closing the gate. (At least in Montana, where I grew up).

The logical consequence of this would be adding so much grief to the family and an extension of the searching by LE and volunteers. Was this action further testimony to her despairing state of mind-she wanted to TOTALLY disappear? Is the alternative motive an act of vindictiveness even plausible: leaving her family without closure for a long time? That seems so out of character with the persona shown to the public. I personally have to believe it was the former. Perhaps others have some thoughts on this.

There is a memorial service Friday evening, I believe. I do hope that brings everyone some peace and the strength to find a way to continue.

As sad as this case was, it also affected me profoundly on a personal level, as my adult son died suddenly of an accidental pain medication overdose last August. I know what devastation a phone call can bring to parents and family members; your life will never be the same. And for the death to be a suicide is unimaginable.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

There's a problem here ... women don't usually hang themselves. It seems that given a choice, they would take pills or slash wrists while in tub.

Also, to tie the knots necessary to hang yourself would not necessarily be second nature to a "mom". Did she also climb a tree to get high enough to hang herself?

All of this is now sounding very strange ....

I can't wait for the toxicology reports in a few weeks.

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There's a problem here ... women don't usually hang themselves. It seems that given a choice, they would take pills or slash wrists while in tub.

Also, to tie the knots necessary to hang yourself would not necessarily be second nature to a "mom". Did she also climb a tree to get high enough to hang herself?

Hi Marinka,
This reminded me of a lovely young woman who joined the armed services at the same time as I did. She, too, committed suicide by hanging herself in the basement of a building on the base. She was found by a gardener who had collected his tools from the basement, noticed the clothes on the ground, but didn't check. Later he found he kept thinking about the pile of clothing, and decided to go back and found her on the ground. I think she used stockings tied to a rafter, which were still around her neck, probably kept stretching till she reached the ground. She had probably taken drugs as well.

She was involved with a married man, who later on in the relationship called it off suddenly. Didn’t want to ruin his marriage. The young lady asked the medical station for help, probably for pills to help her sleep as well, and not realising how desperate she was, they told her to forget him and move on, etc. Friendly and outgoing with everyone, yet couldn’t reveal her hidden relationship to friends.
So, yes, women do commit suicide by hanging.
I don’t know if she took any drugs, it was many years ago.
Her chart would also involve the 7H of affairs. The 8H for deep obsession for this guy, thinking that death was preferable to living without this guy, and secrecy in how she couldn’t tell anyone about the relationship.

I just hope she has found peace at last.

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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Note that:
-in the event chart (taking 1st house as significator for the missing person) the Anareta (ie, the "lot of the killing planet") is@ 2 Sagittarius-thus the anaretic planet is Jupiter, the same planet as significator for the missing person (Anareta = ascendant+Moon-lord of the ascendant)

-and that the Anareta (2 Sagittarius) is conjunct (within 1 degree) the Part of Fortune in the event chart

-also, the Part of Poison (which could include overdoses of drug products)-ascendant+North Node-Saturn-falls @ 29 Scorpio, in the 12th whole sign house of the chart, and is within 2 degrees of conjunction with the chart's Part of Fortune

-thus the Part of Fortune is contained by the Anareta on one side and the Part of Poison on the other-certainly an ominous position!
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Has the family expressed any emotional reaction to the news of suicide? I mean, did any of them say that it was expected or out of the question. So far, I'm not seeing anything in her story that would push her over the edge like that. Have the authorities released the content of the suicide note she allegedly left her family? May that would shed some light.

In fact, does anyone here have the date and time from it was first declared a suicide? I'd like to run a rumor horary on it.
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Has the family expressed any emotional reaction to the news of suicide? I mean, did any of them say that it was expected or out of the question. So far, I'm not seeing anything in her story that would push her over the edge like that. Have the authorities released the content of the suicide note she allegedly left her family? May that would shed some light.

In fact, does anyone here have the date and time from it was first declared a suicide? I'd like to run a rumor horary on it.
Their reaction is shock. They note that she wasn't acting like a depressed person that was literally over the edge. Suicide note was not released as well as no mention of the specifics of the scene. In fact, very little has been released as to how she hung herself or how many pills were taken - as noted earlier, the pills would not kill her. And, why would she would take the pills and then hang herself instead.

My reaction to this is that there is very little investigative work being done with this case and assumptions are being made that may or may not be supported by the data/scene. Her father is supposedly an investigative officer and hopefully he will be following through in more detail. This is a small town and I wonder whether they have qualified people to handle a situation like this.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Thanks, Marinka.

Something is off for sure, and it's not just unqualified people. It's a regular kind of incident that is surrounded by abnormal secrecy. Some information is being hidden from the public.

Let's wait and see.
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I couldn't find the time for the official announcement of suicide so I decided to try an horary. Noted, it's questionable whether it will provide accurate information as there can be the argument that this information is not intended for me.

The question was:

Regarding Jennifer Huston, was this a suicide?


I found the chart very interesting ....
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why do you use whole signs?

Mars in Scorpio significator. Maybe she wants to keep it something in secret. I can't read the rest since I don't use whole signs.
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I couldn't find the time for the official announcement of suicide so I decided to try an horary. Noted, it's questionable whether it will provide accurate information as there can be the argument that this information is not intended for me.

The question was:

Regarding Jennifer Huston, was this a suicide?


I found the chart very interesting ....
It's interesting alright. L3, Asc/Dsc, Moon and Mercury all in fixed signs: the rumor is true. MC/IC in mutuble signs: false. That clearly leans towards being true.

However, Scorpio rises: there is a secret involved; something is being covered up.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

Again as I stated earlier, it might be argued that I have no right to his information and it could be wrong. With that, this is what I am seeing ---

I use whole sign, all planets and the moon tells me about the question.

- Moon is in the 4th which is the end of matter and this would fit my question asking about the end of someone.

- The matter itself is the 1st which is Scorpio, ruled by Pluto. Scorpio itself could be argued is secretive and the ruler in the 3rd fits that as information is being reined in or just not released. Saturn in the 1st supports the restraint on this matter and could be adding a touch of authoritarian characteristics. Mars indicates that there is still action on-going which I assume would be the tox screen and maybe some auxiliary investigation of the crime scene contents. Note, in my procedure for horaries, I can assign a matter/situation rather than a person to the 1st which is what has been done in this case. It could be argued that this is not correct form but, it has worked in the past.

- There is grouping of planets in the 10th and the 10th would indicate the status of this matter.

- Moon will make a few aspects before going VOID. It starts with an opposition to Jupiter and then a square to Mars. This could indicate values coming back from tests are not as expected. Then, there is an inconjunct to the MC which is a break and continue angle indicating that the "story" may change. Next is the square to Saturn and then oppositions to Sun and Mercury indicating that there is release of more information which is not favorable to the story line and possibly more in-depth investigation by the media. Lastly, it will be squaring ascendant and making an inconjunct to Venus. The angle to the ascendant might indicate unfavorable news while the inconjunct could support this as it indicates a "break and change" and Venus in this case is ruling the 7th and 12th which leads me to believe hidden information being made public.

Again, there could be many interpretations to this chart and this is simply one of them.
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Re: missing Mom Jennifer Huston

I think the police investigation would like to continue but the family doesn't.

Based off 6.22pm chart, I see family problems that weren't mentioned. I am also skeptical about the timeline of events when I first read it here. It's just a gut feeling.

Her husband, children, mother's significators are all in Cancer. But she (Jupiter) is in Leo and under Sun's beams. Seems she got weary of her mother role and felt lost about herself. Too many 7H planets involved. Seems like a person who has lived her life through others and forgot how to live for herself.

Her house of self worth (2H) would be Saturn in either 10H or 11H. I was thinking maybe she had plans to go back to work or get involved in some community groups in meaningful work but someone objected to it. Could be Mars which would be her father or just family.
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