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I was just left of center, midrange libertarian. Far-right libertarians generally won't admit there's such a thing as left-leaning libertarians. The political Party known as "Libertarian" has co-opted the term since 1971, and isn't the only version.
Because leftist socio-economic policy is contradictory with the principles of libertarianism.
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Because leftist socio-economic policy is contradictory with the principles of libertarianism.
The "Libertarian Party" should be called the "Apathetic Party".
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A former US police officer has been charged with murder
following the death of unarmed black man George Floyd.
Video footage showed Derek Chauvin kneeling on the neck of Mr Floyd, 46
who died after pleading that he could not breathe in Minneapolis, Minesota.


"He is in custody and has been charged with murder
We have evidence, we have the citizen's camera's video
the horrible, horrific, terrible thing we have all seen over and over again
we have the officer's body-worn camera
we have statements from some witnesses."
Mr Freeman told a press briefing that the investigation
into Chauvin who, if convicted, faces up to 25 years in prison
was ongoing and that he anticipated charges against the other officers.
He said it was appropriate to charge "the most dangerous perpetrator" first.
The arrest comes after three days of protests
which escalated in violence as demonstrators torched a police station
that had been abandoned by officers.
Chauvin is one of four officers who were fired from the city's police department
following Mr Floyd's death on Monday.

He was detained on Friday
and later charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter,
Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman confirmed.
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What The Media Isn't Telling You About Minneapolis Riots

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A former US police officer has been charged with murder
following the death of unarmed black man George Floyd.
Video footage showed Derek Chauvin kneeling on the neck of Mr Floyd, 46
who died after pleading that he could not breathe in Minneapolis, Minesota.


"He is in custody and has been charged with murder
We have evidence, we have the citizen's camera's video
the horrible, horrific, terrible thing we have all seen over and over again
we have the officer's body-worn camera
we have statements from some witnesses."
Mr Freeman told a press briefing that the investigation
into Chauvin who, if convicted, faces up to 25 years in prison
was ongoing and that he anticipated charges against the other officers.
He said it was appropriate to charge "the most dangerous perpetrator" first.
The arrest comes after three days of protests
which escalated in violence as demonstrators torched a police station
that had been abandoned by officers.
Chauvin is one of four officers who were fired from the city's police department
following Mr Floyd's death on Monday.

He was detained on Friday
and later charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter,
Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman confirmed.
There's a photo purportedly showing the killer cop wearing a racist cap. Actually, someone who looks like him was wearing it, not the cop. Photoshopped memes are plentiful, and often difficult to detect as being fake, or deliberately mislabeled.
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Think you are right about this. Many older people still live in the era where they believed themselves to be more 'superior' than other races,
particularly the African-American and Asian races. They were both 'slaves' in the USA for decades.
I concur with that. Obviously today there is much more exposure to the rest of the world through many channels (travel made easy, tech and social media, etc).
History contributed a lot to it. I will, however, not reduce this to just the US. I was in Europe before I moved to the US, and Europe is just more refined about expressing racism.

Though I live in one of the seemingly most progressive areas of the country, seldom a day goes by that you don't see some aspect of racism in society. Given there is a good mix of different cultures here and the fact that English is the language of the US, most people from other countries are naturally more attracted to an English speaking country. Hence I have always found that racism seemed more glaringly prevalent in such countries (like the US, UK, Australia), but its undertones are clearly there in non-English speaking countries, too, like Germany, France.
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I concur with that. Obviously today there is much more exposure to the rest of the world through many channels (travel made easy, tech and social media, etc).
History contributed a lot to it. I will, however, not reduce this to just the US. I was in Europe before I moved to the US, and Europe is just more refined about expressing racism.

Though I live in one of the seemingly most progressive areas of the country, seldom a day goes by that you don't see some aspect of racism in society. Given there is a good mix of different cultures here and the fact that English is the language of the US, most people from other countries are naturally more attracted to an English speaking country. Hence I have always found that racism seemed more glaringly prevalent in such countries (like the US, UK, Australia), but its undertones are clearly there in non-English speaking countries, too, like Germany, France.
It's about religion also. The Liar in Chief is still falsely claiming that there was media footage of thousands of people in New Jersey, in a "Muslim area", cheering and celebrating, on 9/11.

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I concur with that. Obviously today there is much more exposure to the rest of the world through many channels (travel made easy, tech and social media, etc).
History contributed a lot to it. I will, however, not reduce this to just the US. I was in Europe before I moved to the US, and Europe is just more refined about expressing racism.

Though I live in one of the seemingly most progressive areas of the country, seldom a day goes by that you don't see some aspect of racism in society. Given there is a good mix of different cultures here and the fact that English is the language of the US, most people from other countries are naturally more attracted to an English speaking country. Hence I have always found that racism seemed more glaringly prevalent in such countries (like the US, UK, Australia), but its undertones are clearly there in non-English speaking countries, too, like Germany, France.
That just shows what little perspective you have about the entire world.

Its normal for countries to have disdain against different cultures, particularly those which have conflicting customs and habits in comparison with one's own. However this is called xenophobia, and has nothing to do with racism or ethnicity.
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That just shows what little perspective you have about the entire world.

Its normal for countries to have disdain against different cultures, particularly those which have conflicting customs and habits in comparison with one's own. However this is called xenophobia, and has nothing to do with racism or ethnicity.
They rounded up Japanese citizens, took their property, and put them in camps. The excuse was, they might be serving the Emperor of Japan, no evidence required.

They left the German citizens alone, even though they might have been serving the Fuhrer of the 3rd Reich.

Nothing to do with racism or ethnicity?
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They rounded up Japanese citizens, took their property, and put them in camps. The excuse was, they might be serving the Emperor of Japan, no evidence required.

They left the German citizens alone, even though they might have been serving the Fuhrer of the 3rd Reich.

Nothing to do with racism or ethnicity?
Racists actions from the democratic party holding power shouldn't be surprising. They are after all the party of racism. It is no surprise FDR abused power in a racist manner, given his own party sponsored the KKK and lynching of black citizens.

This was however a government's action done by politicians towards the people. Not done by normal citizens or the general public, whose opinion regarding people of japanese descent varied significantly. To my knowledge a lot of people in the U.S. were highly critical of japanese internment camps at the time ... particularly libertarians, such as Raymond C. Hoiles.

Guess this is a good example of why you don't want government having much power over its citizens - and of why leftists tend to sponsor most racists policies.
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Racists actions from the democratic party holding power shouldn't be surprising. They are after all the party of racism. It is no surprise FDR abused power in a racist manner, given his own party sponsored the KKK and lynching of black citizens.

This was however a government's action done by politicians towards the people. Not done by normal citizens or the general public, whose opinion regarding people of japanese descent varied significantly. To my knowledge a lot of people in the U.S. were highly critical of japanese internment camps at the time ... particularly libertarians, such as Raymond C. Hoiles.

Guess this is a good example of why you don't want government having much power over its citizens - and of why leftists tend to sponsor most racists policies.
So, at least you agree there is discrimination based on race and ethnicity.

Btw, there were a lot of Republicans who firmly supported the Japanese internment, including then California Attorney General Earl Warren.
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So, at least you agree there is discrimination based on race and ethnicity.

Btw, there were a lot of Republicans who firmly supported the Japanese internment, including then California Attorney General Earl Warren.
Sure, I never said racism didn't exist. But most of the things which are usually classified as racist - are not. They are just xenophobic.

It wasn't republicans who instituted the interment camps. It was democrats. I'm sure a lot of democrats also opposed this particular decision - not all of them are bad.Still doensn't change the fact this is another racist policy from the democrats.
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That just shows what little perspective you have about the entire world.

Its normal for countries to have disdain against different cultures, particularly those which have conflicting customs and habits in comparison with one's own. However this is called xenophobia, and has nothing to do with racism or ethnicity.
I am sure you are the right one to judge me- who has lived in 3 continents, in 5 countries and speaks 6 languages

How far does your radius extend. Well, going by your personally attacking and judge-mental post, consider my question rhetorical and stay on topic, and don't consider it your right to judge fellow members and attack them!!! Obviously your post is proof enough that you don't really have anything substantial to contribute on the subject matter itself, so you resort to personal attacks on members- not the first time from you.

My post was based on personal experiences that I I have every right to share. Foolish only to participate on such threads because apparently people do not want to hear the truth.
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I am sure you are the right one to judge me- who has lived in 3 continents, in 5 countries and speaks 6 languages

How far does your radius extend. Well, going by your personally attacking and judge-mental post, consider my question rhetorical and stay on topic, and don't consider it your right to judge fellow members and attack them!!! Obviously your post is proof enough that you don't really have anything substantial to contribute on the subject matter itself, so you resort to personal attacks on members- not the first time from you.

My post was based on personal experiences that I I have every right to share. Foolish only to participate on such threads because apparently people do not want to hear the truth.


I'm not judgemental, just trying to explain to you, that your view on racism is very narrow and that you are miss applying the term, probably given your limited experiences. There is a diference between xenophobia and racism.

The US/UK/Australia are not culturally different from each other, they are all anglican in origin. Considering you've never seem to have stepped outside the *white* world for an extended period of time, it is understandable you believe people in those countries to be "racist", rather than xenophobic.

If you ever step outside the comfortable 1st world, you'll see what real racism is about. And you'll notice it is actually more prevalent in other areas of the world.
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2020, like 1992 and 1964 (is this a 28-year cycle, involving Saturn with its 29.5 year "return" in its orbit?) are years of intense racial unrest in the USA. Trump has made the George Floyd police brutality issue into a dumpster fire from his stupid twitter comments. I believe the 18.5 year saros cycle (Sep 11, 2001 - the 9/11 terrorist attack and Mar 11, 2020 - the WHO declares COVID-19 a global pandemic) adds fuel to the flame in tensions nationally and globally. We are in the worst times in US history now, including WW3 watch when Trump imposes the US' government's heaviest sanctions on China since the 1989 Tianenmen Square massacres. COVID-19 could come back...more racial riots on the rise...and possible confrontation between the 2 largest armies over the issue of Hong Kong's autonomy stripped by the CCP, as well our ally Taiwan is going to be threatened (the mainland considers them a "rogue province"), and Trump uses the term "China virus" that has strong xenophobic connotations: an ugly trifecta of racial nationalism, pandemic crises and ideological animosity.
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... Trump has made the George Floyd police brutality issue into a dumpster fire from his stupid twitter comments. I believe the 18.5 year saros cycle (Sep 11, 2001 - the 9/11 terrorist attack and Mar 11, 2020 - the WHO declares COVID-19 a global pandemic) adds fuel to the flame in tensions nationally and globally. We are in the worst times in US history now, including WW3 watch when Trump imposes the US' government's heaviest sanctions on China since the 1989 Tianenmen Square massacres. COVID-19 could come back...more racial riots on the rise...and possible confrontation between the 2 largest armies over the issue of Hong Kong's autonomy stripped by the CCP, as well our ally Taiwan is going to be threatened (the mainland considers them a "rogue province"), and Trump uses the term "China virus" that has strong xenophobic connotations: an ugly trifecta of racial nationalism, pandemic crises and ideological animosity.
Trump is a highly insecure man. Most insecure people try to establish their own supremacy (to continually pamper their egos) by belittling and denigrating others. Fact is that racism has always been prevalent, but under a somewhat sane and humane leader, chances of curbing it are more. With an insane and indecent leader, such as the man at the top in America, the opposite has happened. He has no qualms about adding massive insults to injury of his own people. Then again, a certain section of society, like African-Americans, Hispanics, well... the coloured people in general he does not consider his own because his own are more supreme

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Trump is a highly insecure man. Most insecure people try to establish their own supremacy (to continually pamper their egos) by belittling and denigrating others. Fact is that racism has always been prevalent, but under a somewhat sane and humane leader, chances of curbing it are more. With an insane and indecent leader, such as the man at the top in America, the opposite has happened. He has no qualms about adding massive insults to injury of his own people. Then again, a certain section of society, like African-Americans, Hispanics, well... the coloured people in general he does not consider his own because his own are more supreme - same ideology as Adolf H. My understanding and prediction are that China and the US, over this new decade, will crumble under their own 'weight'.
Trump has neglected everyone in the country and the world, he hates Blacks, he ignores Native Americans in Indian reservations and tribal communities, and his Islamophobia. I mean, he reminds me of Hitler using the type of rhetoric to blame groups of people (Hitler did with Jews and Soviet Russia, he hated Slavs and communism) for things like Germany's loss in WW1, hyperinflation of the 1920s and the Great Depression the 1930s, now the targets are communist China for "purposely planting Covid-19" or intentionally spreading a disease globally, and African-Americans as "criminals" and "thugs" on Trump's twitter. Also Trump wants the federal government in a time of the pandemic with less civil liberties to control social media, which to me is very unconstitutional.
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Trump has neglected everyone in the country and the world, he hates Blacks, he ignores Native Americans in Indian reservations and tribal communities, and his Islamophobia. I mean, he reminds me of Hitler using the type of rhetoric to blame groups of people (Hitler did with Jews and Soviet Russia, he hated Slavs and communism) for things like Germany's loss in WW1, hyperinflation of the 1920s and the Great Depression the 1930s, now the targets are communist China for "purposely planting Covid-19" or intentionally spreading a disease globally, and African-Americans as "criminals" and "thugs" on Trump's twitter. Also Trump wants the federal government in a time of the pandemic with less civil liberties to control social media, which to me is very unconstitutional.
I see and this is the reason why all the white liberals from antifa are rioting and destroying black neighborhoods, and beating up small business owners, and looting everything they can?

Because of Trump?
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I see and this is the reason why all the white liberals from antifa are rioting and destroying black neighborhoods, and beating up small business owners, and looting everything they can?

Because of Trump?
There's no cool-headed leadership at the top. There's an old joke that Eisenhower, who ran a pretty much passive Administration, proved that "America doesn't need a President".

Trump, who's a shock-jock nihilistic troll, is proving that America does need a real President!
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The US/UK/Australia are not culturally different from each other, they are all anglican in origin.
LOL...If you were less hell bent upon proving others wrong, it would be easier to understand what others say.
Nowhere did I mention that the UK, Aus and the US were different lol. I actually said that given English is the language in those countries (which is the commonality between them), foreigners feel more comfortable to move there.

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Considering you've never seem to have stepped outside the *white* world for an extended period of time, it is understandable you believe people in those countries to be "racist", rather than xenophobic.
If you ever step outside the comfortable 1st world, you'll see what real racism is about. And you'll notice it is actually more prevalent in other areas of the world.
You seem to think you know me pretty well, but perhaps always judging others is a habit with you - as mentioned in my previous post - not the first time (thanks for proving my point). Unfortunately it fails you miserably each time.
20 years of my life were spent outside the "white world". Considerable, eh. And no, after such a considerable amount of time, I can safely and based on enough experience say that racism is most certainly most prevalent in the West.

Again, how far of your 'sphere' have you stepped out? How far does your radius extend? Oh well, again, consider the questions rhetorical because your posts are "considerably" reflective of that.
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