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Unread 02-01-2020, 08:43 AM
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Does he really like me?

Hi,

So this is about an office colleague who I went out with the last two days and had some good time with. It was a completely out of the blue meeting. I had only thought that he is cute and we had only met a few times before, mostly all for work related stuff, and never had a feeling that he was interested in me. In fact, I thought he was way too professional, only talking work and not passing any hints of any sort of liking towards me. But we met on Thursday completely out of the blue. I just happened to be in office (I never sit later than the usual work hours but had to that day) and he saw me online on our office chat system and asked if I wanted to hang out. And we had a good time. Now I wonder if he really does like me and want to be with me or this was all just to get an opportunity to sleep with me. He doesn't live in the same city as me and we will now only meet in March in another country for a conference.

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Unread 02-01-2020, 10:46 AM
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Re: Does he really like me?

I'm not seeing much, the receptions don't show anything. The recent aspects between Mars and Venus show you guys meeting. Moon is void and late ASC. So I think not much is going to happen here. I think he was just trying to make some contacts and trying to be nice.
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Unread 02-01-2020, 12:00 PM
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I'm not seeing much, the receptions don't show anything. The recent aspects between Mars and Venus show you guys meeting. Moon is void and late ASC. So I think not much is going to happen here. I think he was just trying to make some contacts and trying to be nice.
Ahh I see. I thought he had something in mind especially after he kissed me on the first day. He is also eager to invite me over to his city or travel abroad with him, which I thought was a bit odd. But then I thought he probably just wanted to sleep with me. Well, I guess nothing is going to come off this when he gets back to his city.

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Re: Does he really like me?

And Uranus there shows it was a sudden impulse, but it will end as quickly as it started.
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Unread 02-01-2020, 01:30 PM
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And Uranus there shows it was a sudden impulse, but it will end as quickly as it started.
Ahh sighhh! This is so dissapointing lol

Thanks for taking a look Elena
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Unread 02-01-2020, 04:19 PM
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There are so many men around!! No worry another one will pop up!
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There are so many men around!! No worry another one will pop up!
Agree , but just tired of the recent disappointments
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Patience. A good partner is worth waiting for.
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Patience. A good partner is worth waiting for.
*fingers crossed*
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P.S. it's rarely a good idea to get romantically involved with a work colleague!
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P.S. it's rarely a good idea to get romantically involved with a work colleague!
I agree a bit and also completely understand why you say that. Very generally, in India, one of the most common places where people find prospective partners is the workplace because they usually don't have as many social engagements as do people in western countries. Not saying that we have absolutely no option to socialise, but there are so many social and economic reasons why not everyone may want to step out as much and so often. For a lot of us, the only place we go to most frequently is the office and hence, a lot of people look for partners in a workplace. Off the hat, I think 4 out of 8 people in my office are married to someone they worked with.

Some of my colleagues from the UK used to be so surprised when I'd say that I plan to sleep in during the weekend because apparently it's unusual for them to not do anything (?) This could be a broad generalisation. I met my last bf of 6 years in my previous office But I totally understand why it can be a bit awkward. I couldn't face this office colleague I asked this question about the day after our first outing. I am so glad he doesn't work in my city.
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That you astrokp for the cultural clarification.
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Unread 03-10-2020, 06:48 PM
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Hi all,

I just thought I'd share some updates on this. This colleague I met is a bit serious now. Since the first day we met in Jan we have been talking to each other almost everyday and met again last week for a conference and got a bit intimate. He suddenly seems a bit serious now, expecting me to meet his parents and go on a trip next month. I am not sure why this is going so fast but perhaps he wants to settle in life, get married and so on and so forth. But, I am being extremely skeptical and doubtful and suspicious and my friends are sort of adding fuel to fire by saying that he may be trapping me into marrying him. I am literally tired of thinking so much about this and have created a chart to ask 'what is happening'. Is this serious business or is he really 'trapping' me?

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He Venus is conjunct Uranus which could explain the suddenness.
Venus is strong in taurus and approaches a trine to mars strong in Capricorn. Which would seem to say, you will be together and in a positive way.
So, looking at moon in the 11th, in libra the sign of marriage, it should be positive, but we see her exactly opposing Chiron in your 5th of romance and children. Why is this?
Mars in your 2nd, Venus in your 6th.
The aspects to ascendent/descendent are good.
Can you go into your comment about trapping you into marrying him? Given your culture, what could that be?
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He Venus is conjunct Uranus which could explain the suddenness.
Venus is strong in taurus and approaches a trine to mars strong in Capricorn. Which would seem to say, you will be together and in a positive way.
So, looking at moon in the 11th, in libra the sign of marriage, it should be positive, but we see her exactly opposing Chiron in your 5th of romance and children. Why is this?
Mars in your 2nd, Venus in your 6th.
The aspects to ascendent/descendent are good.
Can you go into your comment about trapping you into marrying him? Given your culture, what could that be?
Hi Elena, thank you so much. Since you mentioned it's opposing the 5th house of romance and children, could he be romancing someone else parallel-y? Or perhaps he is not capable of having children and that is why wants to rush into things? In marriages that are arranged (where the husband's and wife's family arrange the alliance), you tend to have absolutely no idea what a person might be hiding and you'd only realise after you've got married to them. I know two cases where the husband was impotent and the wives had absolutely no idea until they got married and eventually got divorced. So, people keep their issues, especially those to do with health, to themselves till they marry and then the woman just pretty much lives with them knowing the way out is cumbersome and expensive. Hence, 'trapped'.
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The cusp of the 5th is at 29 degrees, so going no where, and then changing signs.
Pisces is a fertile sign, and one of the rulers, Jupiter is between your co-significators, and the other has just had sun pass over it, sun burns and dries, but it is also in fertile pisces.
He, venus, is in the 6th of health, and moon is inconjunct, a stressful aspect, with both Venus and Uranus. However, the 6th also governs work, and you say he is a colleague.
Puzzled.
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The cusp of the 5th is at 29 degrees, so going no where, and then changing signs.
Pisces is a fertile sign, and one of the rulers, Jupiter is between your co-significators, and the other has just had sun pass over it, sun burns and dries, but it is also in fertile pisces.
He, venus, is in the 6th of health, and moon is inconjunct, a stressful aspect, with both Venus and Uranus. However, the 6th also governs work, and you say he is a colleague.
Puzzled.
Hmm it is a confusing situation indeed. I guess I will be careful and not give in too much to lose my peace of mind in the process.
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Hi Elena, I had a chat with the guy in question here about children and he doesn't want any and says he will discuss why further later when we meet. I thought of your reading where you mentioned the Chiron in the 5th house of children and romance. I thought I will share this here if knowing this helps you at all!
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Let us know how this turns out! Thanks for the update.
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Sure will do, thanks!
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Hi Astrokp,

In horary, we usually use the Regiomontanus system, not Placidus (mainly because Lilly only used the Regiomontanus).

There are only separating aspects between the main significators (Moon/Mars, Venus/Mars).
Sun and moon are applying to a square by 14'23 which is barely in-orb and out-of-sign. Poor dignities and reception into the bargain.

I'd be very surprised if this develops into a relationship.

L7 Mars is only dignified by term, so Bonatti would say that he isn't dignified at all. Either your guy isn't entirely honest or he isn't very enthusiastic or capable of moving things forward.

On a positive note, a main significator (in this case, you, L1) in House 5 could signify a short-term affair. Also, Mars in 2nd house might show that he's interested in getting your esteem or approval.

Still, I don't think there is enough to overcome the strong testimony of the separating aspects. I have yet to see a relationship chart with only separating aspects that turned out to produce a fruitful outcome, i.e. a serious romance.

Proceed with caution, if I may. And please let us know. All the best.

Amelia

Edit - I don't think it's necessary to cast a second chart when it comes to what's really going on / the other party's intention. The idea from the first chart is that he might be looking for a boost to his ego (hence we see a debilitated mars valuing your estimation) and maybe sex (hence we find venus in 5th - you appear to be very pretty and sexy in this relationship, being exalted and in a passionate house. It could mean passion from your side, too, but hopefully this isn't the case).

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Hi Astrokp,

In horary, we usually use the Regiomontanus system, not Placidus (mainly because Lilly only used the Regiomontanus).

There are only separating aspects between the main significators (Moon/Mars, Venus/Mars).
Sun and moon are applying to a square by 14'23 which is barely in-orb and out-of-sign. Poor dignities and reception into the bargain.

I'd be very surprised if this develops into a relationship.

L7 Mars is only dignified by term, so Bonatti would say that he isn't dignified at all. Either your guy isn't entirely honest or he isn't very enthusiastic or capable of moving things forward.

On a positive note, a main significator (in this case, you, L1) in House 5 could signify a short-term affair. Also, Mars in 2nd house might show that he's interested in getting your esteem or approval.

Still, I don't think there is enough to overcome the strong testimony of the separating aspects. I have yet to see a relationship chart with separating aspects that turned out to produce a fruitful outcome, i.e. a serious romance.

Proceed with caution, if I may. And please let us know. All the best.

Amelia

Edit - I don't think it's necessary to cast a second chart when it comes to what's really going on / the other party's intention. The idea from the first chart is that he might be looking for a boost to his ego (hence we see a debilitated mars valuing your estimation) and maybe sex (hence we find venus in 5th - you appear to be very pretty and sexy in this relationship, being exalted and in a passionate house. It could mean passion from your side, too, but hopefully this isn't the case).

Hi Amelia,

Thank you so much for looking at the chart. Your reading of his intention in this relationship is something I have sort of come to realise in the past few weeks. He seems to always be telling me about all the great work he does and how he makes a great boss, etc. I have told him he sounds a bit of a show off when he does that but he hasn't exactly stopped. He does find me very attractive and sexy and talks sex a lot more than I'd like. Does make me think he's into this for the sex and nothing more though he has spoken to his parents, friends and everyone he considers close about me and expressed his intent to marry me. Since the first chart was cast, we have gotten closer, come to know each other more and talk a lot every day. But, that's probably it.
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Unread 05-01-2020, 01:19 AM
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Thank you for the response. I appreciate it.
Perhaps he isn't entirely insincere in his intentions to marry you. Only the proposal is, at this point, coming from his ego and passion instead of something very solid. But you're a wise lady and you see through these anyway.
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