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Unread 12-06-2013, 01:14 PM
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Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

Hi Everyone,

I'm from Tacloban City, and experienced the storm on November 8, 2013. I survived, but all of my family died. I was not living with them in the same house anymore, since I had started living a so-called independent life on May 2012. If I did still live with them, I would most likely had the same fate as them.

Here is my chart:


Here's the chart of my brother. He is the only one that I have specific time.



Was it in his chart that he will suffer a cruel fate such as this? I wasn't even able to give them a proper burial. I'm really so sad that I couldn't even do much for them.

I'd appreciate any replies from you. Thanks in advance!
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Hi Everyone,

I'm from Tacloban City, and experienced the storm on November 8, 2013. I survived, but all of my family died. I was not living with them in the same house anymore, since I had started living a so-called independent life on May 2012. If I did still live with them, I would most likely had the same fate as them.

Here is my chart:

Here's the chart of my brother. He is the only one that I have specific time.

Was it in his chart that he will suffer a cruel fate such as this? I wasn't even able to give them a proper burial. I'm really so sad that I couldn't even do much for them.

I'd appreciate any replies from you. Thanks in advance!
Hi chasama, as one of the fortunate - yet saddened - survivors of a devastating event
you naturally question your survival.
Many frequently question why they survived some catastrophic event
yet others did not
and wonder whether their natal chart has indicators.
The topic has been discussed in relation to the deaths of tens of thousands at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
which was the only time a weapon of mass destruction has been used to incinerate an entire city

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...since ninety thousand people perished in Hiroshima and approximately seventy four thousand people died in Nagasaki then that is a combined total of one hundred and sixty four thousand natal charts to analyze - including verification of time of birth.

Clearly then a belief or disbelief that 'each of these victim's alcocodens and hylegs got simultaneously activated' is neither provable nor disprovable
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That's because no one has delineated every single one of all of those one hundred and sixty four thousand charts

Clearly, all these people DID have one thing in common i.e. THEY WERE ALL LOCATED IN A CITY ON WHICH AN ATOMIC BOMB WAS DROPPED.

An important factor to note is that, some survived

Astrologers who have looked at the charts of survivors of large scale disasters such as plane crashes, explosions and so on have found chart patterns indicating that they had 'above average good fortune' - there were of course survivors of the bombings of Hiroshima as well as of Nagasaki and if anyone has any research material regarding any studies of their natal charts that would be relevant
The key factor is that
the one common denominator for those who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
IS THAT ALL WERE IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT AN ATOMIC BOMB WAS DROPPED

Therefore their individual natal charts were ALL of less importance than the National Chart of their nation or country
which is the province of Mundane Astrology


And it's the same for Storm Haiyan

All those who died were in the path of Storm Haiyan, which was a Mundane astrological event affecting several generations of people

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And that is the key right there,
not analysing 90,000 charts for hylegs, alchocodens, primary directions that could have prematurely cut the alchocodens' years short, etc. etc.

Taking a page from Avraham the Spaniard, otherwise known as ibn Ezra,
one of the first things he tells astrologers is that astrology does not contravene natural law.

He also explains that a personal chart falls under quite a hierarchy of other considerations. From Nativities and Revolutions:

...The third way is the rule that comes from the effect of the Great Conjunction on each country.

Thus, if within the influence of the Conjunction upon the nations war is supposed to befall a certain nation,

even if many of those born in it do not have an indication of death by the sword in their nativities,
when the time for war for that country comes, they will all be killed....


There's quite a lot more, but no need to quote all of it, one hopes
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Regarding your natal chart and your brother's natal chart, the important question concerns the accuracy of the official time of birth.

That's because the ascendant sign is the most powerful chart point since it defines the entire natal horoscopic chart by locating the planets and signs to their natal houses


Often a natal chart timing is inaccurate simply because at the time of a birth, the medical team are not seated at their computer ready to create an exact natal chart, but instead are concentrating on the health and safety of mother and newborn
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Re: Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I'm really questioning my existence and even path to take.
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Re: Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

I'm very sorry for the losses that you have endured and are still faced with in dealing with this on a daily basis.

As to the charts, it might help if you post the charts so they have transits, progressions, and solar arc.
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Hi Marinka, how do I do a chart with transits? I'm still quite a noob in astrology.
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Hi Marinka, how do I do a chart with transits? I'm still quite a noob in astrology.
If you go to astro.com they have options to do progressions with transits on the natal. They also have one for the solar arc.
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Re: Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

Something like this?

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My late brother's chart
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All you need to do is to look at the aspect of moon nodes. Bending is a new predictive and natal interpretation I learned from mediveal astrology. Bending is the aspect of square to both north node and south node so when a planet square the north node in your chart the tighter it is the most significant and drama it will be in your life and your brother's chart. Your late brother happened to have tight bendings moon and Jupiter from 6th/12th to the nodal axis. But you don't only your moon is at wide conjunction to south node unless the moon was a bit earlier degree to give closer conjunction which is likely as your family suffered great deal of tragedy. At the bending in modern term is formation of t-square of both nodes and the planet. The planet that formed the t-square with the nodes are the force of greatest challenge of the native's life. Can occur in natal, progression and transit. On top of his natal moon at the bending of the nodes the ongoing Pluto square Uranus has been pointing at Cancer for a very long time and the day of such tragedy may very well be at close direct contact to his moon and Jupiter. Modern outer Uranus in Aries as his transiting ascendant ruler, the traditional ruler Saturn was at close contact to his MC.

I haven't check the degrees. As I am using mobile version at the moment. I don't know if I can make any of this sound easier to understand. If you really keen on looking for straight forward answer then I am not very good at simplifying interpretations into everyday language without using technique terms.

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Another techniqical thing to point out for your brother if I counted correctly the Cancer cusp for 2013 was his profected ascendant which as above bein part of the challenging formation of his natal nodal axis. Which means the manifestation of this challenging life path of moon t-square both nodes while opposed Jupiter is being manifested in 2013. The last difficult period should be 2001.
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Hi Marika,

I do not mind reading about it, really as it pushes me onto seeing what's really up. Sometimes words of other people that everything is going to be okay is not working for me.

I need to see what is going on to actually move on.

I got an update just now that the bodies of my family can still be given a burial except my brother's. The bodies of my other family members were trapped in some debris so it wasn't easy to remove them. My brother was been laid in the streets and most likely have been included in the mass grave already. I'm not sure if he let me dream about him since he is now at peace or sad to be separated from the others.

About the part of "karma", what does it mean?

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Hi Marika,


About the part of "karma", what does it mean?
The angle (node to sun in SA chart) has not completed yet which means that it will complete in the near future (less than 1 year).

I expect that this means that you will come to realize that there was nothing that you could have done to change the outcome. It was meant to be. Part of this will involve the realization that it is your path to eventually continue on, it was theirs to be part of the destruction. There will be scars and damage left behind in you (and as part of you) from this event but it shouldn't keep you from eventually enjoying life again. Your fate will be balancing the two of these apparent contradictions.

Question -- are you married? do you have children? The reason that I ask is that your progressed moon is in the 5th and transiting Jupiter will be joining it there next year.

If you like, I will continue and do your brother's in a few hours .... or, maybe this is all too draining. You can always come back in a few months and pose the same questions ....

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Hi Marinka,

Thanks again for the reply. To answer your question, I am not married yet and no children. I do have a partner, we planned to get married sometime this december, but with all things that happened, I think it would be best to move it. What does it mean?

It would mean much to me if you'd continue reading about my brother. Knowing a bit of his dreams and aspirations can help me move on, if there's something from him I can sti continue.

Thank you so much!

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The angle (node to sun in SA chart) has not completed yet which means that it will complete in the near future (less than 1 year).

I expect that this means that you will come to realize that there was nothing that you could have done to change the outcome. It was meant to be. Part of this will involve the realization that it is your path to eventually continue on, it was theirs to be part of the destruction. There will be scars and damage left behind in you (and as part of you) from this event but it shouldn't keep you from eventually enjoying life again. Your fate will be balancing the two of these apparent contradictions.

Question -- are you married? do you have children? The reason that I ask is that your progressed moon is in the 5th and transiting Jupiter will be joining it there next year.

If you like, I will continue and do your brother's in a few hours .... or, maybe this is all too draining. You can always come back in a few months and pose the same questions ....

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Chasama,

Other than all the indicators of possible explanations of the tragedy of your family. I would like to express my concern for you and hope for your life to get better very soon and you may have the strength to move on. I can see that you are hoping to continue things that your brother could not complete during his life time that is a fantastic attitude and it will assist you to gain some positivity from this life changing event.

The natal indicator of your brother's death is there in your chart very strongly in my opinion. So you are right that you want to seek some closure through some astrological explanation. This is fine and will be good for you to look at the issue with logic mind instead of avoiding it and keep all your intense feelings in the closet and may come back to attack you as dreams or other forms. I will also suggest you to go to support group if any available for traumatic event survivor/family members. Often if you don't deal with it early the wound will only go deeper eventually over the years, you still need to deal with it. So good for you to do that now. But don't forget to take time to rest and just do daily normal things to keep your life running as normal as possible while allowing yourself to grief in time don't ask yourself to complete complex healing process too fast.
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Thank you for JA doing all the checking and typing when I was asleep. Was really tried after doing 8-9hrs of studying the Dragon head and tail. Very impressive techniques Brady and Gunzburg introduced me.

I hope Chasama can get some understanding from it. Sorry I was not very good at explaining and just throw out all the information at once.
Your explanations are very clear poyi, however since Chasama is a beginner,
then I had the idea to clarify your comments
and thank you for sharing your recent studies of the Brady and Gunzburg course on the Nodes - that's much appreciated

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I notice that in Cha's own natal chart, his Mars is within 1 degree of exact square to the Nodes
(see the thread entitled "Planets at the Bendings")
-interesting that in Vedic astrology Mars is considered a karaka (significator) for borthers...
I noticed Chasama's natal Mars square to the bendings also dr. farr
and the very clear significance in Western Astrology also IF one uses WHOLE SIGN houses

as Hellenistic Astrologers do

but due to Cha's being a beginner
and not understanding the significance of the factor
that the house and sign location of any planet is entirely dependent on the house system used

I wondered how to explain the subject in simplified form

BASICALLY then:

In ancient times astrologers delineated SPECIFICALLY TOPICS with Whole Signs

- and increasingly today's astrologers are utilising whole signs also

THE FOLLOWING ARE 'TOPICS OF EACH HOUSE'





Vettius Valens et al utilised Quadrant based systems for the purpose of gauging planetary strength


BUT
on astro.com Quadrant based Placidus is the default


FURTHERMORE

many are unaware of astro.com's Extended Chart Selection page on which options for fourteen different house systems ARE offered


SO

to continue then


Whole Sign Houses places both Mars and Jupiter in close conjunction in Gemini in 3rd house of siblings
and thus Mars is a clear significator for brothers

Mars is in square to the bendings
from the location of 3rd house of siblings


which verifies Poyi's comment that, and I quote:
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Chasama,
The natal indicator of your brother's death is there in your chart very strongly in my opinion.

So you are right that you want to seek some closure through some astrological explanation.

This is fine and will be good for you to look at the issue with logic mind
instead of avoiding it and keep all your intense feelings in the closet and may come back to attack you as dreams or other forms.

I will also suggest you to go to support group if any available for traumatic event survivor/family members.
Often if you don't deal with it early the wound will only go deeper eventually over the years, you still need to deal with it.
So good for you to do that now.
But don't forget to take time to rest and just do daily normal things to keep your life running as normal as possible
while allowing yourself to grief in time don't ask yourself to complete complex healing process too fast
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REGARDING WHOLE SIGN HOUSES


'...In no other area of astrology is there so much mess and confusion than in the area of the so-called "houses". There are at least twenty or thirty different house systems or means of dividing the so-called "birthchart" into twelve segments of life activity. In astrology, houses, mansions, or domains, represent general areas of life activity and are the grounding areas or arenas of expression for planets. Originally, the words "houses" and "signs" were interchangeable or meant the same thing. A planet in Aries was also a planet in the house of Aries, so that in effect. there were no real houses as we know them today....'


'.Artificial divisions now known as houses were attempts by early Greeks and Hindus to measure strength "points" in the horoscope, which during 7th and 8th centuries AD were construed or confused as means of dividing the birth chart. The ascendant and midheaven degrees and their opposites, for example, were definite power points or areas of intense focus, but not necessarily the beginnings of a house or quadrant. In fact, there is no real basis for the astrological houses at all. They derive from a misunderstanding of the true nature of the Ascendant and Midheaven factors in astrology, Ascendant representing Earth/terrestial sphere, and Midheaven representing Sky/Heaven /celestial sphere....'


'...If any house system should be used at all, it should be the Whole Sign House system, where the ascendant sign becomes the whole first house and the others follow. Ascendant point can then fall anywhere in the first house and the midheaven point anywhere in the upper half of the chart. The Whole Sign House system was used by the ancient Greeks and the Hindus(who still use it today). It is the oldest and simplest house system in existence, and immediately eliminates the awful mess astrologers have made on the issue over the last 1300 years or so....' http://www.librarising.com/astrology...ignhouses.html

Chasama, as you have frequently stated that you are experiencing difficulty with technicalities,
there are useful and FREE ONLINE ASTROLOGY LESSONS at
http://astrolibrary.org/basics/




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Re: Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

I just heard something truly fascinating of the expression of 12th house Sun regarding to unresolved Grief related to Sun in 12th house. It is from Brady & Gunzburg The Houses study kit.

Brady did a chart reading for a 20 years old young man in the past. He just got broke up with his first girlfriend though he didn't love you very deeply and could not understand why he was in such a profound deep grief. Then from exterminating his natal Sun in 12th house, that lead to his father. His father at the age of 20 years old, his first love and the love of his life was killed in an accident. His father as a young man was told by his parents to get over this and go to date then married to this young man's mother for a long time he suppressed his deep grief. Then this karmic link from his father was unusually passed on to him into his natal chart at the same age though he didn't love this woman as much but the suppressed grief of the Sun manifested in his reality.

My own case through not related to the Sun in 12th house (my 3rd Sun rules 12th house) also my 7th house is ruled by the ruler of the 4th house conjuncts SN, my current boyfriend he has awfully similar life pattern to my own father, and his father also had awfully similar patterns. There is a lot of repetitive family karmic patterns carrying on when unresolved. It is best to deal with your grief as my opinion from my own experiences and this interesting real example I just heard.
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Chasama,

Other than all the indicators of possible explanations of the tragedy of your family. I would like to express my concern for you and hope for your life to get better very soon and you may have the strength to move on. I can see that you are hoping to continue things that your brother could not complete during his life time that is a fantastic attitude and it will assist you to gain some positivity from this life changing event.

The natal indicator of your brother's death is there in your chart very strongly in my opinion. So you are right that you want to seek some closure through some astrological explanation. This is fine and will be good for you to look at the issue with logic mind instead of avoiding it and keep all your intense feelings in the closet and may come back to attack you as dreams or other forms. I will also suggest you to go to support group if any available for traumatic event survivor/family members. Often if you don't deal with it early the wound will only go deeper eventually over the years, you still need to deal with it. So good for you to do that now. But don't forget to take time to rest and just do daily normal things to keep your life running as normal as possible while allowing yourself to grief in time don't ask yourself to complete complex healing process too fast.
Thank you so much Poyi for all your readings on my chart. It is quite sad to know that even my chart shows such events for my brother, I will also assume that the fate of my (mother and grandma) must be there too.

I was in the point of blaming myself, (since someone from my mom's side actually blamed me) that I couldn't save them.

It would be nice to do some of the stuff my brother wanted to do, he also took up the same course I did and pretty much likes what I like as well, so I think doing better and being the best at what I (we) can do can make him happy.

I don't know if I do find a counselor here, so far my partner has been getting all my thoughts and emotions for the meantime. I do hope I encounter some people who also are in the similar position with me in Haiyan and would be able to relate better.

I just promised on my brother's dead body when I found him, that I'll be the best and be powerful. That was the only words I could say really.
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Poyi and Jupiterasc,

Thanks for the interpretations. I can understand technical interpretations, but I can't read a chart technically and thoroughly yet. I'm just all on the basics when it comes to chart reading.
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I'm not really sure on what the 12th house may do. I asked it before since I had 3 major planets placed there but I was just told that they were not really relevant and focus more on the planets on my midheaven.

I really thank you for your kind words, as other people who are quite distant relatives of mine were really making me more pissed off and depressed with the things they're saying to me.
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12th house when positive is spirituality, unity, and ultimate liberation.
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Yes. I will do a lot of reading soon as there are too many stuff I have to do with moving to another location.

Thanks for explaining a lot of the technical stuff for me. It really is great help for me.
That's ok. You are a strong survivor, you are bravely seeking ways of processing this horrendous tragedy and I am so glad to have been of some assistance to you at this challenging time
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I'm not really sure on what the 12th house may do. I asked it before since I had 3 major planets placed there but I was just told that they were not really relevant and focus more on the planets on my midheaven.
The 12th house has many Traditional significations and to get some idea of the many facets of this interesting house then there are several forum discussions including http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...hlight=slavery
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I really thank you for your kind words, as other people who are quite distant relatives of mine were really making me more pissed off and depressed with the things they're saying to me.
Helpful sensible guidance talk on DEPRESSION http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N_jjY7W_fs
and also on DEALING WITH DIFFICULT PEOPLE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jniaUr_7438
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Re: Storm Haiyan Survivor - My family all dead

On your brother's chart -

Transits -

- Saturn is conjuncting the mid and this indicates a restriction or focusing of the status. By itself, this happens a few times in a lifetime and while indicating changes, does not necessarily indicate the severity. Saturn is also ruling the 12th house of "unforeseen/hidden enemies and could be construed as the storm (or something else from the storm) that changes the status. Saturn at the pinnacle of the chart would also indicate that there were obligations that were being taken very seriously.

- Uranus is conjuncting the sun indicating unexpected event(s) and this angle along with the Saturn now start to add a bit more seriousness to the interpretation. Uranus is the ruler of the 1st house and the sun is the ruler of the 7th which can be many things but, the interpretation that appears correct here would be the "known enemy". It would appear that your brother was aware of the dangers that were around him, at least the know dangers from the storm. I suspect that he may have also had a heightened awareness about his surroundings while this transit was in effect.

- Pluto has been moving back and forth over the 12th house cusp and has moved in. The 12th house again, associated with hospitals and unknown/secret enemies. Can sometimes be the house of self-undoing. Pluto has also been making a square aspect to the Sun, so the sun has been under duress from the transits.

- The node moved to 7 scorpio and at this position, it is inconjunct to the Sun and Mercury and this aspect as well as the others mentioned previously are signifying an event of significance. I think of an inconjunct as having the force of an earthquake in that there is a sudden shifting and a need to readjust. It's the road ahead that disappears into a curve and after the curve, a washed out road. These angles indicate not being able to "see ahead" clearly.

- Chiron recently moved into the 2nd house and there is usually a passing of a planet from the first into the 2nd house when there is a grave outcome assuming that there are many other angles to support this.


Progressions --

- There a few angles but, nothing that adds to the overall interpretation without getting too technical

Solar Arc

Two angles here that I would like to mention

- Jupiter moving to conjunct the ascendant and Uranus. While this might seem to be positive, it might be too much and in this case is the "overabundance".

-Node is squaring the ascendant and Uranus - this a a "double" in that the ascendant is being squared and the ruler of the ascendant is being squared. Whenever the nodes are involved, there will be tones of fate in that there was little that could be done to change the result. In this case, the node is making the angle to the ascendant or the self so the result would impact the person as a whole.

I haven't gone through every detail that the charts provide as I expect that this is painful.



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On your brother's chart -

Transits -
- Saturn is conjuncting the mid and this indicates a restriction or focusing of the status. By itself, this happens a few times in a lifetime and while indicating changes, does not necessarily indicate the severity. Saturn is also ruling the 12th house of "unforeseen/hidden enemies and could be construed as the storm (or something else from the storm) that changes the status. Saturn at the pinnacle of the chart would also indicate that there were obligations that were being taken very seriously.

Because one complete orbit of Saturn around our Sun takes THIRTY YEARS

THEN


Transiting Saturn conjunct the Midheaven occurs rarely in a lifetime



HOWEVER

Saturn conjuncts MC at least three times in one lifetime

IF an individual reaches their 90th birthday

UNLESS Saturn retrogrades on the MC


For example


6 October 2012 Transiting Saturn entered Tropical Scorpio


Then 18 February had reached 11 Scorpio which is very close to Sioty's MC degree


but

THEN
Transiting Saturn retrograded at 11 Scorpio


and did not return to 11 Scorpio until mid-October 2013

By 8 November 2013 Transiting Saturn eventually conjuncted MC of Sioty's natal chart


and also by the way, at the same time
entered the 8th house of Chasama's natal chart

ILLUSTRATION OF RETROGRADE MOTION IN THE SKY USING MARS ORBIT OF THE SUN AS AN EXAMPLE

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A few last points that I would like to provide --

Your brother seemed to be a very strong person that would always take his own path. This I see from the Aquarius rising (Uranus ruled) and the Uranus also sitting at the ascendant.

The Sun, Mars, and Mercury in Aries would have added the characteristics of being very brave and courageous and not just on the surface as these planets in addition to the conjunction between themselves, had the trine to pluto which would make this a deep and resilient strength.

There is the moon in the 6th house of service in Cancer which is very family orientated. This opposes the Jupiter in the 12th house. Jupiter in this position of the 12th house is difficult in that, it doesn't help you much in normal activities of your life, it expects the person to make their own way (not much luck) but, it's usually there if the situation becomes dire as a "last resort". It's significant that Jupiter is in a difficult angle to the moon and ... I'll leave it at that.

I don't know if you noticed that you and your brother have some similarities in your charts - the planets in the 12th, 2nd, and the moon in the 6th. You also have the Ascendant in Aries with the sun near the ascendant. This is what I like to think of as a double-Aries (Aries ascendant/Aries sun). Your brother had the double-Uranus (Aquarius ascendant/Uranus rising).

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