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Great discussion!

Two things I haven't yet seen discussed is that Aquarius is about both DEstructuring and UNstructuring. And right now the entire social concept is being destructured and unstructured: for example race and gender are becoming seen as a CHOICE rather than something you are BORN with. The other thing I haven't seen discussed is that Aquarius is the water BEARER...and Aquarius Decides WHO GETS THE WATER. This has become VERY apparent as certain people are being "canceled" from society based on social judgments about their fittingness to get the "water" of civilization (i.e., job, food, housing, etc.).

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Great discussion!

Two things I haven't yet seen discussed is that Aquarius is about both DEstructuring and UNstructuring. And right now the entire social concept is being destructured and unstructured: for example race and gender are becoming seen as a CHOICE rather than something you are BORN with. The other thing I haven't seen discussed is that Aquarius is the water BEARER...and Aquarius Decides WHO GETS THE WATER. This has become VERY apparent as certain people are being "canceled" from society based on social judgments about their fittingness to get the "water" of civilization (i.e., job, food, housing, etc.).

Looking at the Age,

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Changing structure to accommodate different kinds of connection is exactly what I was talking about here, Tim:

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Unitarians have a good "nose" for the spiritual, like they can find it in all people and definitely in the arts, they always have good events. Maybe that is the Saturn connection to Uranus, where they find the shared form but strip away the heavy structures (or strictures) that bind in specific order. Which is interesting - I'd thought of that particular ability as being more Piscean.
Expansive channels would be needed to bridge Pisces (spiritual unity) and Cap (earthly form).
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1781:

•Benchmark date for the beginning of the Dawning of the Aquarian Age, with the discovery of the Modern domicile-ruler of Aq by William Herschel.
•Also benchmark date for the Uranian-ruled Cornwallis chart for the founding of the U.S.A.

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1782: Astronomer Johann Bode names the newly discovered planet beyond the orbit of Saturn, "Uranus".

1793: First Unitarian Church established in the U.S.
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All,

Great discussion!

Two things I haven't yet seen discussed is that Aquarius is about both DEstructuring and UNstructuring. And right now the entire social concept is being destructured and unstructured: for example race and gender are becoming seen as a CHOICE rather than something you are BORN with. The other thing I haven't seen discussed is that Aquarius is the water BEARER...and Aquarius Decides WHO GETS THE WATER. This has become VERY apparent as certain people are being "canceled" from society based on social judgments about their fittingness to get the "water" of civilization (i.e., job, food, housing, etc.).

Looking at the Age,

Tim
Alpha to Omega.

I hadn’t thought of it in the terms of deciding who is privileged to the “proverbial” water.

I have observed how water is now a multimillion dollar industry. With so much water “caged” in bottles and warehouses, instead of going through the natural system of being used and released back to the earth.

I wonder what the effects of the depletion of water caged, has on the natural motions of the earth. While the water is still on earth, it is not available to the natural ecosystem.

The Age of Aquarius will need a representative, I had thought to free the water from its binds. But, there is the more human aspect, of new choices, brought on by Uranus and Aquarius of sex, sexuality and who will have a platform of free speech or freedom, and where.

The public destruction of Catholic Churches is happening in Canada right now. I just drove by a church that has had a statue of Jesus and the front door of the church spray painted red.

Three churches have been burned to the ground in the last couple weeks, in two provinces in Canada.

The tensions are high between, all sectors of society. Men, women and Lgbq communities. Rich and poor. Privileged and not. Covid believers and skeptics. Races, all of them against all of them. Everywhere. The governments feed the anger, and then say how bad the reaction of the people’s are.

Divided, conquered. Ages old proven results.
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Alpha to Omega.

I hadn’t thought of it in the terms of deciding who is privileged to the “proverbial” water.

I have observed how water is now a multimillion dollar industry. With so much water “caged” in bottles and warehouses, instead of going through the natural system of being used and released back to the earth.

I wonder what the effects of the depletion of water caged, has on the natural motions of the earth. While the water is still on earth, it is not available to the natural ecosystem.

The Age of Aquarius will need a representative, I had thought to free the water from its binds. But, there is the more human aspect, of new choices, brought on by Uranus and Aquarius of sex, sexuality and who will have a platform of free speech or freedom, and where.

The public destruction of Catholic Churches is happening in Canada right now. I just drove by a church that has had a statue of Jesus and the front door of the church spray painted red.

Three churches have been burned to the ground in the last couple weeks, in two provinces in Canada.

The tensions are high between, all sectors of society. Men, women and Lgbq communities. Rich and poor. Privileged and not. Covid believers and skeptics. Races, all of them against all of them. Everywhere. The governments feed the anger, and then say how bad the reaction of the people’s are.

Divided, conquered. Ages old proven results.

Very rough transition, from old to new!

In Biblical prophecy, it's called "The Tribulation", prior to Heaven's rule on Earth.

["Uran" means "of the Heavens" in ancient Greek]

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Very rough transition, from old to new!
The rise and fall of civilizations are never pretty!🙂
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Raphael attributes “strikes, rioting, violence, anarchy and turbulences and outrages against authority.”

Positively or negatively aspected show the attitude of the people, and how they react to authority.
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Raphael attributes “strikes, rioting, violence, anarchy and turbulences and outrages against authority.”

Positively or negatively aspected show the attitude of the people, and how they react to authority.
We're such short-lived creatures compared to the span of the astrological Ages!

With 1781 as the BEGINNING of the Dawning of the Aquarian Age, with still about 5 degrees to go before the BREAK of Dawn around 2150, we can't know with certainty what the newly established Age will really be like once the birth pangs finally end, and the Age is finally born.

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We're such short-lived creatures compared to the span of the astrological Ages!

With 1781 as the BEGINNING of the Dawning of the Aquarian Age, with still about 5 degrees to go before the BREAK of Dawn around 2150, we can't know with certainty what the newly established Age will really be like once the birth pangs finally end, and the Age is finally born.
I am not aware that the dates for the ages tropically or sidereally are defined. I have what I believe, based on what I have read,

Is 1781 for sidereal or tropical dawning? Who wrote it, based on what?
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The stars at the belt of Orion, are known as the three kings. Mimicked by the magnitude of the pyramids.

They are said to have followed the “star”, so the “star would have preceded them if it is an astral hint. Written in stones.

Alnitak, Alnilam, and Mintaka.

https://pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2018/12/24/a-christmas-story-the-three-kings-and-the-star-of-bethlehem/amp/

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All,

Great discussion!

Two things I haven't yet seen discussed is that Aquarius is about both DEstructuring and UNstructuring. And right now the entire social concept is being destructured and unstructured: for example race and gender are becoming seen as a CHOICE rather than something you are BORN with. The other thing I haven't seen discussed is that Aquarius is the water BEARER...and Aquarius Decides WHO GETS THE WATER. This has become VERY apparent as certain people are being "canceled" from society based on social judgments about their fittingness to get the "water" of civilization (i.e., job, food, housing, etc.).

Looking at the Age,

Tim
To add on, the top 1% has accumulated so much money! Many people are questioning the validity of that wealth and thinking about redistributing it. The rise of the welfare state and socialism is a direct Aquarian correlation. The people who are for the little guy (aquarians) are taking the wealth and spreading it. Which is a direct opposition to the Leonian monarchs who have all the wealth.
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There seems to be a major battle between Leo and Aquarius energy

Just about anyone can become famous or popular on social media. There's a decentralization of power in the media. But at the same time, people who become famous on social media can be cancelled or destroyed by 1000 cuts online. But they also have power and influence like a monarch.

Everyone is an anonymous audience online (aquarius) attacking the YouTuber or TikToker (leo)
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Lightbulbs as opposed to candlesticks.
Lightning on a stormy night as opposed to the Sun.
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What do you think about the fact that platforms elevate certain creators not for their creativity but for being "influencers," while some really creative folks who originate trends feel overlooked?
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What do you think about the fact that platforms elevate certain creators not for their creativity but for being "influencers," while some really creative folks who originate trends feel overlooked?
I think it's disgusting.

But that's how it's always been. If you have a culture of depraved people, only depraved people will be appreciated. You can't appreciate skill, intellect, or creativity unless you have skill, intellect or creativity. Possess too much power in any of these areas and you alienate people. If you don't have these, the only thing left that's appealing to you are bright colors, luxuries, shocking displays, sex, and drama.

But I wouldn't judge "influencers" too harshly. People do have an "eye" for things. James Charles does have a unique and skilled ability in makeup. Although, with any of his videos, I can't even last 30 seconds due to "drama" and artificiality. The worship of makeup on social media is so fitting. Makeup takes deception and artificiality to its most logical and practical level.

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I am not aware that the dates for the ages tropically or sidereally are defined. I have what I believe, based on what I have read,

Is 1781 for sidereal or tropical dawning? Who wrote it, based on what?
Whether you accept specific dates or not, what I'm saying is, "Dawning" is a transitional process. What specific event(s) suggest to you that the old Age was first being joined by harbingers of the Aquarian Age? And, at what cusp degree would you expect that to begin occurring?

I find it compelling that Tim's choice of the Cornwallis chart for the U.S.A. Natal-chart is in the same year as that amazing discovery of the 1st planet beyond Saturn for the Modern-day rulership of Aquarius. And, that the chart itself is heavily influenced by the newly discovered planet.

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I can't with the makeup artists and people who cultivate drama for the sake of it - fortunately my algorithms don't feed me any. I'm also pretty sure of needing a prescription for something or five somethings if attempting any of that stuff on my face, la.


People with skills (intellect, creativity, physical prowess) need communities where those things are valued, where they can challenge each other and improve, to flourish. where was this going, oh... back to the point of maybe lacking the generative capacity and habits leaves normies with more time to develop "influence" skills or rip-off artistry?


But it can't be fun to hang with people who are obsessed with props and prep and takes that aren't inherently rewarding? (Dancetok excluded obvs)
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Yeah it probably isn't fun for these people. They live in slave culture.
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Whether you accept specific dates or not, what I'm saying is, "Dawning" is a transitional process. What specific event(s) suggest to you that the old Age was first being joined by harbingers of the Aquarian Age? And, at what cusp degree would you expect that to begin occurring?

I find it compelling that Tim's choice of the Cornwallis chart for the U.S.A. Natal-chart is in the same year as that amazing discovery of the 1st planet beyond Saturn for the Modern-day rulership of Aquarius. And, that the chart itself is heavily influenced by the newly discovered planet.

I might accept it, but i would have to know where you are getting the date from.



Electricity, comes to mind, when thinking about the transition. Man made pollution, Aquarius is said to be destruction by man. The others are fire, flood and earth, naturally occurring. Aquarius is man made destruction.


It is interesting that Herschel/Uranus was rediscovered then. In time for the study of the affects to start to be determined, again.



I was just looking up Zadkiel. Archangel of Mercy. Found an interesting pdf of a guy who pen named himself after Zadkiel. Very astrological.


http://iapsop.com/ssoc/1840__zadkiel...ogy____2ed.pdf

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Yeah it probably isn't fun for these people. They live in slave culture.
Kinda digging this line of thinking. Britney's case brought it up, also San Francisco is looking for more conservatorship powers as a solution to its homeless problem, and child labor is starting to trend up with job losses. Slavery is not something you automatically associate with Uranus, but here it is.

Slave to fashion, I guess?

Anyway, you think it is something specific to Aqua? Or is it just the nature of an Age to have a Shadow.. Kinda like Pisces depending on a puritanical sexuality, enslaving the virgo
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Kinda digging this line of thinking. Britney's case brought it up, also San Francisco is looking for more conservatorship powers as a solution to its homeless problem, and child labor is starting to trend up with job losses. Slavery is not something you automatically associate with Uranus, but here it is.

Slave to fashion, I guess?

Anyway, you think it is something specific to Aqua? Or is it just the nature of an Age to have a Shadow.. Kinda like Pisces depending on a puritanical sexuality, enslaving the virgo
Child labor is not a bad thing. I don't know why people are so opposed to it. Getting a job is not the equivalent of slavery. Getting a wage and not being beaten makes you a human, not a slave.

I meant slave culture in the sense of mindless, empty consumerism.

We're still in the early phases of the Aquarian age, but also, hyper consumerism is much better than anything before it.
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Child labor is not a bad thing. I don't know why people are so opposed to it. Getting a job is not the equivalent of slavery. Getting a wage and not being beaten makes you a human, not a slave.

I meant slave culture in the sense of mindless, empty consumerism.

We're still in the early phases of the Aquarian age, but also, hyper consumerism is much better than anything before it.
Wow. Are you talking about working for your parents or for pennies in cocoa fields instead of going to school?
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Wow. Are you talking about working for your parents or for pennies in cocoa fields instead of going to school?
Children don't have to work anymore because they can afford schooling. Back then, people were too poor to afford school, so children worked to help support their families. That is not slavery. That is people pursuing the best life with the opportunities they have.

What's unfortunate is that if you are a poor family, or a child that wants to make money, laws today deprive children the opportunity of a job.

As I said, getting a job makes one a human being, not a slave. Slavery is being beaten and working for nothing.
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Oookay then..
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