The ASTROLOGY of Donald Trump

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david starling

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According to one Vedic source, Venus conjunct Saturn in H11 is an indicator for great wealth. I would would interpret that as a NEED for great wealth. In Trump's case, there are strong 8th House connections, which suggests achieving it with "other people's money".
 
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aquarius7000

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Trump was born under a full Moon, and, along with that, his Sun and Moon sandwich the N. Node within their opposition aspect, and, in fact it was a total lunar eclipse the day he was born. A bit ominous, really, that eclipse. This constellation of the N. Node so close to the lights may make the native more determined towards everything he plans to manifest and do in the future (N. Node). Remember also that the Sun symbolises the king, whilst the Moon the public masses. One of the reasons the masses (the Moon) actually believe that Trump is a true leader (the Sun) that will take America forward and make it great again (the N. Node and the Sun in the 10th house). Further, with the combination of his Leo Asc. and the Moon in Sag., he finds his own self tremendously great. In fact, he is over optimistic and over confident (Jupiter sextiles the Moon and adds to the mix) that he can do anything - typical of Sag and Jupiter energies. Of course, that angular Mars in Leo only adds to his over confidence. If he thinks he can build a wall against Mexico, his fiery over confidence streak assures him that he really can. In any case, a Sag. Moon is not so emotionally moved, so he really will not stop short of breaking families up in order to carry out his own plans for America. Of course, Mars on the Asc. means it is always ready for action (being so angular), makes him very strong-headed and daring. Every time he hears a 'no' to his plans, it incites and excites him all the more to execute them because Mars on the Asc. individuals love challenges.

Uranus on the Sun means a person that is constantly looking for ways to do things differently, regardless of how bizarre their ideas may seem to others. The addition of that N Node to that Sun-Uranus conjunction almost compels him to want to do something special and distinguished. Such individuals can be very entrepreneurial, and that he really has been. With the Sun and Uranus in the public 10th house and so angular, the Donald has no problems in seeming bizarre to the public, or doing his own thing in public.

Amazing is also the fact that all three 'I' or 'my' energy planets, Mars, the Sun and the Moon, are tied together in his chart via aspects.

Mercury is in the 11th house, the house of friendships, of benefactors, of good fortune, of one's own goals, of one's hopes and ambitions - something Trump always voices in public. Mercury is in a square to Neptune - an aspect that can also make one misconstrue or twist information. Notice also that Mercury also rules his 2nd house and Neptune's square to it could mean that the native might be easily enticed to making money using underhanded means.
 
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david starling

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Total Lunar eclipse on his birthdate does sound significant. I just ran through this sequence--Asc. In Leo ruled by Sun in Gemini, ruled by Mercury in Cancer, ruled by Moon in Sagittarius, ruled by Jupiter in Libra, ruled by Venus in Cancer. Looks like a loop from afflicted Venus (Conj. Saturn) to the (eclipsed) Moon, to Jupiter, and back to Venus.
 
aquarius7000

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The ruler of his 7th house of marriage and partnerships is Saturn, which is in its sign of fall in Cancer. His marriages have not been happy ones. Saturn is in the 11th house of society and is conjunct Venus.He likes pretty women and his ideal is that of blonde, and 2 of the three are models. The combo of Saturn-Venus and Jupiter, as well as the Moon in Sag., the sign of the overseas, the attraction to foreign women is strong (two of his three wives are from Eastern Europe).

Donald Trump has a Venus (self-worth) Saturn (lack) conjunction, which clearly reflects a problem with a lack of self-worth that must trouble his manly ego - his Mars a lot. Probably he uses his beautiful women to compensate and make himself feel better as a man through them. After all, he has had three marriages (Saturn--Jupiter). Also, with Venus in the 11th and conj. his 7th house ruler, Saturn, all his women are public figures, had been before he married them even. Venus - Saturn and Saturn in the 11th, they are all well-accomplished on their own even.
 
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katydid

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david starling said:
No Planets in the Earth element. Impractical?
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I have always thought it interesting that he has no EARTH planets, yet he made his name as a real estate mogul.

I think that confirms the Astro theory that if the native lacks a certain element completely, they often make up for it by going overboard in that direction.

:sideways:
 
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david starling

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katydid said:
I have always thought it interesting that he has no EARTH planets, yet he made his name as a real estate mogul.

I think that confirms the Astro theory that if the native lacks a certain element completely, they often make up for it by going overboard in that direction.

:sideways:
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I have no placements in Earth, and two other people I know also have none. We all have an actual aversion to the Real Estate profession. I had to became a landlord in order to buy a house, and felt extremely uncomfortable in that role. I was told I should raise the rent because the rent I was charging was way below the current rates, but it just didn't seem right. I do work in landscaping, actually in contact with the Earth itself, like a grounding method. Buying and selling real estate wouldn't do that for me.
 
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david starling

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Trump uses real estate to make money, but he went bankrupt several times even though he was rich to begin with. I would make a terrible real estate broker! I blame my impractical business sense on my lack of Earth, and 12th House planets. I would therefore blame Trump's business failures, and the Trump University fiasco, on his making impractical decisions due to his lack of Earth, and rising H12 Mars (which I have also, in Placidus, but it's in Pisces instead of Leo--much less impulsive).
 
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david starling

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Moon in Sagittarius is a powerful good luck Placement! But it's not infallible. If one can ignore his failures in marriage and business, and focus only on his successes, one could get the impression of infallibility.
 
JUPITERASC

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katydid said:
I have always thought it interesting that
he has no EARTH planets
yet he made his name
as a real estate mogul.

I think that confirms the Astro theory
that if the native lacks a certain element completely
they often make up for it by going overboard in that direction.

:sideways:
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Quite :smile:
david starling said:
Trump uses real estate to make money, but he went bankrupt several times
even though he was rich to begin with.
I would make a terrible real estate broker!
I blame my impractical business sense on my lack of Earth
and 12th House planets.
I would therefore blame Trump's business failures, and the Trump University fiasco
on his making impractical decisions due to his lack of Earth
and rising H12 Mars
(which I have also, in Placidus, but it's in Pisces instead of Leo
much less impulsive).
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david starling said:
Moon in Sagittarius is a powerful good luck Placement!
But it's not infallible.
If one can ignore his failures in marriage and business
and focus only on his successes, one could get the impression of infallibility.
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Considering he is such a failure then
President Trump is doing well
considering he is President of US
married twice
father of three sons, two daughters
and a billionaire

ONE WONDERS WHY THEN
WITH SUCH A LACK OF EARTH
DONALD TRUMP IS A BILLIONAIR REAL ESTATE MOGUL

BUT THAT IS DONALD TRUMPS TROPICAL ASSESSMENT

Sidereal astrologer Kennth Bowser
famously successfully predicted Trumps win and subsequent election as 45th President of US
Kenneth Bowser remarks that Trump
".....is a virtual clinic on the power of the fixed signs
the strongest of the four qualities.
He has the Sun in Taurus opposite Moon in her fall in Scorpio.
Leo rises with Regulus, the alpha (brightest) star in Leo.
Regulus appeared on New York horizon in the east
less than five and a half minutes before Trump was born.
Trump's SIDEREAL Sun is in Taurus, the exaltation sign of the Moon.
Taureans and Cancerians are often attracted to real estate - Trump’s specialty
- handed to him by his father -
because land and buildings are such good and mostly safe investments...."
 
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david starling

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JUPITERASC said:
Quite :smile:



Taureans and Cancerians are often attracted to real estate - Trump’s specialty
- handed to him by his father -
because land and buildings are such good and mostly safe investments...."
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And yet, he managed to go bankrupt SIX times with these "mostly safe" investments. His father and Russian investors had to bail him out. Can't see that happening to a Taurus Sun. Once maybe, or even twice. But six times??? As for his financial well-being, he could be in debt up to his hairline. Only the IRS knows for sure.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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david starling said:
And yet, he managed to go bankrupt SIX times with these "mostly safe" investments.
His father and Russian investors had to bail him out.
Can't see that happening to a Taurus Sun.
Once maybe, or even twice. But six times???
As for his financial well-being, he could be in debt up to his hairline.
Only the IRS knows for sure.
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Trumps casino business
produced four of those six bankruptcies
that you find so upsetting
and are probably his most infamous flop
Bloomberg News has estimated Trump's net worth at $2.9 billion
while Forbes put it at $4.1 billion.
Trump’s businesses aren’t public, the true figure isn’t clear.

HOWEVER

as a SIDEREAL TAURUS SUN :smile:
Trump HAS forged a successful real estate career over 45 years
profiting from flagship buildings like the Trump Tower Fifth Avenue in Manhattan
the Trump Tower Chicago
and Mar-a-Lago, a private club in Palm Beach, Fla.
Trump Organization owns a portfolio of buildings
hotels and golf courses around the world.


 
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david starling

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JUPITERASC said:
Trumps casino business
produced four of those six bankruptcies
that you find so upsetting
and are probably his most infamous flop
Bloomberg News has estimated Trump's net worth at $2.9 billion
while Forbes put it at $4.1 billion.
Trump’s businesses aren’t public, the true figure isn’t clear.

HOWEVER

as a SIDEREAL TAURUS SUN :smile:
Trump HAS forged a successful real estate career over 45 years
profiting from flagship buildings like the Trump Tower Fifth Avenue in Manhattan
the Trump Tower Chicago
and Mar-a-Lago, a private club in Palm Beach, Fla.
Trump Organization owns a portfolio of buildings
hotels and golf courses around the world.
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Making excuses for his failures, ignoring the fact that his credit is no good according to his own country's banks, forcing him to seek foreign investors, and accepting estimates of his wealth when he's afraid to release his tax records, is a sign that one has fallen under his Venus/Saturn Luciferian influence. Fortunately, more than half the voters have not.
 
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petosiris

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david starling said:
Making excuses for his failures, ignoring the fact that his credit is no good according to his own country's banks, forcing him to seek foreign investors, and accepting estimates of his wealth when he's afraid to release his tax records, is a sign that one has fallen under his Venus/Saturn Luciferian influence. Fortunately, more than half the voters have not.
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Be more objective please. Also take a look -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareo...mp-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/#599ba5457ffa

Stop saying I went bankrupt. I never went bankrupt but like many great business people have used the laws to corporate advantage—smart! -
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/611934068050108416

In hindsight wealth is in my opinion indicated by the II and VIII places and their rulers exceptional placement, reinforced by Regulus rising and the place of the father and its ruler (Sun to Jupiter - Sagittarius), and the overall distinction of the nativity (Syzygy, Luminaries and Lot being angular in particular).

Furthermore, the ruler of the Lot is operative in his own bound and in the sign of Mercury who is in his domicile, in the bound of Venus in XI. To quote Ptolemy for the ruler of the Lot being powerful - ''Saturn brings riches through building, or agriculture, or shipping ventures''
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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david starling said:
Making excuses for his failures
ignoring the fact that his credit is no good according to his own country's banks
forcing him to seek foreign investors
and accepting estimates of his wealth when he's afraid to release his tax records
is a sign that one has fallen under his Venus/Saturn Luciferian influence.
Fortunately, more than half the voters have not.
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Ignoring SIDEREAL TAURUS SUN President Donald Trumps successes

i.e.
Trump HAS forged a successful real estate career over 45 years :smile:
and is a billionaire

and
Trump is profiting from flagship buildings like the Trump Tower Fifth Avenue in Manhattan
the Trump Tower Chicago
and Mar-a-Lago, a private club in Palm Beach, Fla.
furthermore
Trump Organization owns a portfolio of buildings
hotels and golf courses around the world.
and as petosiris advises
petosiris said:
Be more objective please. Also take a look -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareo...mp-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/#599ba5457ffa

Stop saying I went bankrupt. I never went bankrupt but like many great business people have used the laws to corporate advantage—smart! -
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/611934068050108416

In hindsight wealth is in my opinion indicated by the II and VIII places and their rulers exceptional placement, reinforced by Regulus rising and the place of the father and its ruler (Sun to Jupiter - Sagittarius), and the overall distinction of the nativity (Syzygy, Luminaries and Lot being angular in particular).
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aquarius7000

aquarius7000

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david starling said:
No Planets in the Earth element. Impractical?
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Hardly any doubt about that given that his earth planets, Saturn, is fallen, and the rulers of both Virgo and Taurus, Merc. & Venus, are both in the emotional water sign of Cancer, and their collective ruler, the Moon, too is in fiery Sag (not in an earth sign).

I was going to mention this last night, but did did my previous post quite late and forgot. Note that his MC in Taurus points towards a career in banking/ financial institutions, generally speaking. However, given that its ruler Venus is conjunct Saturn (building and construction) and both are ruled by the Moon, which also rules homes, real estate is quite probable. However, since that Venus-Saturn duo is in the 11th house, he isn't into building regular houses really, but institutions for groups and society, thus hotels. Venus also means beauty, which his hotels really are, so what he builds isn't just a mere Saturn like govt. building, but good-looking hotels, something that attracts the masses (11th house). Also, with the Moon tying into that duo, and she being in Sag., he builds overseas, too. Mercury too is placed in Cancer along with Venus and Saturn, and also his Sun-Uranus combo, all these together do give him the ingenuity to sell his name for real-estate ventures. Mercury rules his 2nd house and that is where a big chunk of his money comes from. In essence, his chart does show that real estate will play a significant role, however, given that Saturn is fallen in his case and this fallen planet conjuncts the MC ruler Venus, and also that he has Sun-Ura-N. Node, his career will not be smooth and with a clean image. The Moon in opposition with the Sun, with that Sun in the 10th, also shows a good amount of negative publicity. Given that that 10th house Sun is in Gemini, he does have a strong streak of not just advertising, but also talk show, anything that keeps him in the limelight and satisfies that attention-seeking Sun in the 10th and that Leo Asc. with Mars right there.
 
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david starling

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Trump's a financial gambler, making impulsive decisions and relying heavily on luck--no Earth-sign placements + Leo Mars rising in H12 + Moon in Sagittarius. Maybe that behavior will show in Bowser's chart as well, but for different reasons.
 
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david starling

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JUPITERASC said:
anyone may easily create the SIDEREAL natal chart of President Donald Trump
on astro.com EXTENDED CHART SELECTION PAGE
by selecting the Sidereal Option instead of Tropical Option :smile:
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So you could post it for purposes of the discussion on this Thread? It really helps that Aquarius 7000 posted the Tropical one at the beginning of her analysis.
 
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