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Unread 05-19-2019, 09:50 PM
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Desperation of modern astrology to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign.

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Unread 06-14-2020, 06:23 AM
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Re: Desperation of modern astrology to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign.

Sex, secrets, and psychology!

The public is now the internet and the internet makes masking oneself easier. We can discuss the number of moles on my body because it's highly unlikely I'll meet you or anyone on this forum- we can delve into our deepest mind, our secret selves, and finally talk- and listen- and obviously we're going to want to nourish that part of our psyche- the others get taken care of easily in our real lives by known people- but you know and I know there are some things that has to be taken care by faceless people we will never touch.

Such is the appeal of Scorpio, not the people born under the sign, but its aspects within all of us.

Unfortunately superficial astrology websites pick up only what floats to the top, commercializes it for clicks and sensationalism- and also takes advantage of the fact that everyone has something of Scorpio and plays it up so it's all about them sexy, sexy, scorpionic aspects- I mean, wouldn't you like to have proof that you're really deep? That you have layers, like an onion?

Somewhere along the line it becomes that only the Scorpio sunsign bearers are the only people that have the sexy, sexy, scorpionic aspects, as though all of them have all their plants in Scorpio while having at least one Pluto in each of their houses :eyeroll:

I feel poor Scorpio's personality has been thoroughly raped. They are now made to be such a cliche it's sad, and the other signs suffer just as unjustly.
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Re: Desperation of modern astrology to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign.

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Sex, secrets, and psychology!

The public is now the internet and the internet makes masking oneself easier. We can discuss the number of moles on my body because it's highly unlikely I'll meet you or anyone on this forum- we can delve into our deepest mind, our secret selves, and finally talk- and listen- and obviously we're going to want to nourish that part of our psyche- the others get taken care of easily in our real lives by known people- but you know and I know there are some things that has to be taken care by faceless people we will never touch.

Such is the appeal of Scorpio, not the people born under the sign, but its aspects within all of us.

Unfortunately superficial astrology websites pick up only what floats to the top, commercializes it for clicks and sensationalism- and also takes advantage of the fact that everyone has something of Scorpio and plays it up so it's all about them sexy, sexy, scorpionic aspects- I mean, wouldn't you like to have proof that you're really deep? That you have layers, like an onion?

Somewhere along the line it becomes that only the Scorpio sunsign bearers are the only people that have the sexy, sexy, scorpionic aspects, as though all of them have all their plants in Scorpio while having at least one Pluto in each of their houses :eyeroll:

I feel poor Scorpio's personality has been thoroughly raped. They are now made to be such a cliche it's sad, and the other signs suffer just as unjustly.
I mean I guess it depends on what you want to hear, right? xD

But anyway, kinda agree... I have many Scorpios in my life and all those websites talk about is just their outer shell, their mask in society.
However, I've seen the truth sometimes, some places, about them having dark thoughts about death and regeneration, coming back stronger than ever and being intensely physical, are all true.

But what it doesn't say is their fears and disorders which come from their sensitivity to other people's opinions and them own moral standards (which are one of the strongest in the world, in my opinion), but then again, people don't like reading negative stuff, do they??

So they only serve you the positive, and mind you, there are quite a lot of positives...as one would expect considering their large or deep, but certainly dark, unconscious cravings.
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Sex, secrets, and psychology!

The public is now the internet and the internet makes masking oneself easier. We can discuss the number of moles on my body because it's highly unlikely I'll meet you or anyone on this forum- we can delve into our deepest mind, our secret selves, and finally talk- and listen- and obviously we're going to want to nourish that part of our psyche- the others get taken care of easily in our real lives by known people- but you know and I know there are some things that has to be taken care by faceless people we will never touch.

Such is the appeal of Scorpio, not the people born under the sign, but its aspects within all of us.
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I mean I guess it depends on what you want to hear, right? xD

But anyway, kinda agree... I have many Scorpios in my life and all those websites talk about is just their outer shell, their mask in society.
However, I've seen the truth sometimes, some places, about them having dark thoughts about death and regeneration, coming back stronger than ever and being intensely physical, are all true.

But what it doesn't say is their fears and disorders which come from their sensitivity to other people's opinions and them own moral standards (which are one of the strongest in the world, in my opinion), but then again, people don't like reading negative stuff, do they??
I think these points are just as true of people with significant eighth house placements and/or strong Pluto as they are of those with significant Scorpio. Spoken as someone with a busy eighth house but no Scorpio planets....
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I've got an 8th house stellium and strong pluto aspects too. Also a stellium of progressed planets in Scorpio. I'm a strong person, ive been through a lot, but nothing can get me down and keep me down. I always arise from the ashes a different person, better than and stronger than before.

I now refer to myself as miss terminator.
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What gives?
Who is the Scorpio to you that gives you so many posts anti scorpio?

What gives?
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Who is the Scorpio to you that gives you so many posts anti scorpio?

What gives?
My posts are rather unbiased but given the flattery your sign is used to, I can understand your sensitivity here.
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Unread 07-12-2020, 10:59 PM
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My posts are rather unbiased but given the flattery your sign is used to, I can understand your sensitivity here.
What sign am I?
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Unread 07-12-2020, 11:02 PM
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Who is the Scorpio to you that gives you so many posts anti scorpio?

What gives?
You have a few angry at Scorpio threads.
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What sign am I?
Scorpio, quite obvious.
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Scorpio, quite obvious.
No, my sun is not in Scorpio.

Another guess? Since it is obvious.

I didnít answer your threads because I am one, but because I know quite a few of them.

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Re: Desperation of modern astrology to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign.

I don't think there's any push to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign at all. In fact it's highly given to projection which is a sign of weakness rather than strength, also controlling behavior which is also a sign of weakness rather than strength


I don't think any sign is portrayed as stronger than the rest
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I don't think there's any push to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign at all. In fact it's highly given to projection which is a sign of weakness rather than strength, also controlling behavior which is also a sign of weakness rather than strength


I don't think any sign is portrayed as stronger than the rest
I agree, other than here, with someone that should learn that all zodiacal signs will have the capacity to love and **** someone off.

A Scorpio hurt him. Donít blame all of them.

Maybe you should look at your own chart, and see why it went sour.

Projecting negativity about one zodiacal sign, is not logical.
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I agree, other than here, with someone that should learn that all zodiacal signs will have the capacity to love and **** someone off.

A Scorpio hurt him. Donít blame all of them.

Maybe you should look at your own chart, and see why it went sour.

Projecting negativity about one zodiacal sign, is not logical.
Tbh I got confused here as to whether you were referring to me or the OP in the last two parts of tour message, but I must say, from what I'm observed, the Vlue of astrology one universal level is to deal with one's shadow and attempt to understand what unhealed trauma may be driving another's behavior

I've met Scorpios who live their entire lives avoiding their shadows and projecting it onto others via controlling behavior. Not all will do that, but it takes understanding. They desperately need to go within. And if they wont, then they don't deserve one's time and effort

However, there is power there in that if they do reckon with their shadow, they rise from the ashes. That's just a rarity in all humans, but not just scorpios. And obviously we all have scorpio and pluto in us

I've been there in my own way. I MAY be considered plutonic but have had to observe my own projections
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Unread 08-07-2020, 02:10 PM
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Tbh I got confused here as to whether you were referring to me or the OP in the last two parts of tour message, but I must say, from what I'm observed, the Vlue of astrology one universal level is to deal with one's shadow and attempt to understand what unhealed trauma may be driving another's behavior

I've met Scorpios who live their entire lives avoiding their shadows and projecting it onto others via controlling behavior. Not all will do that, but it takes understanding. They desperately need to go within. And if they wont, then they don't deserve one's time and effort

However, there is power there in that if they do reckon with their shadow, they rise from the ashes. That's just a rarity in all humans, but not just scorpios. And obviously we all have scorpio and pluto in us

I've been there in my own way. I MAY be considered plutonic but have had to observe my own projections
Pluto is my chart ruler, I am not a Scorpio sun. I am not speaking of you, but the OP, has many threads about the negativity of Scorpio.

And when they rise, they are eagles the other creature associated with Scorpio.
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Pluto is my chart ruler, I am not a Scorpio sun. I am not speaking of you, but the OP, has many threads about the negativity of Scorpio.

And when they rise, they are eagles the other creature associated with Scorpio.
I have Jupiter in Scorpio/Phoenix: Flashes of insight impatiently awaited, and occurring at irregular intervals.

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I have Jupiter in Scorpio/Phoenix: Flashes of insight impatiently awaited, and occurring at irregular intervals.
Impatiently is well stated.

Scorpio houses my Ascendant, Venus, and Neptune which is sextile Pluto, that is conjunct my MC.

I have insights, that I had given credit to the Uranus, Mercury, Jupiter, Asc aspects. Hmmm

Neptune and Pluto are at 6.5 and 7 degrees, pretty much everything else is at 24 or 25. Venus is 0.

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I don't think there's any push to portray Scorpio as the strongest sign at all. In fact it's highly given to projection which is a sign of weakness rather than strength, also controlling behavior which is also a sign of weakness rather than strength


I don't think any sign is portrayed as stronger than the rest
Tell me one placement in astrology more overyhped than a Mars in Scorpio
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Pluto is my chart ruler, I am not a Scorpio sun. I am not speaking of you, but the OP, has many threads about the negativity of Scorpio.

And when they rise, they are eagles the other creature associated with Scorpio.
AHA!

Gotcha!
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Tell me one placement in astrology more overyhped than a Mars in Scorpio
Sun in Aquarius with Scorpio rising is an amazing combo!

Pluto's upcoming ingress into Aquarius is getting a LOT of attention.
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AHA!

Gotcha!
No, you said I was Scorpio Sun sign. You can not claim what you did not know.

Just about everybody has Scorpio and Pluto in their chart. Oh yeah, everyone does.

What sign are you that you hold such deep, dark anger on one lost romance?

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No, you said I was Scorpio Sun sign. You can not claim what you did not know.

Just about everybody has Scorpio and Pluto in their chart. Oh yeah, everyone does.

What sign are you that you hold such deep, dark anger on one lost romance?
oh how cute, you think its over a girl
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oh how cute, you think its over a girl
Thatís the usual. Or money.

Either way judging all Scorpio influences based on one failed friendship/relationship/work acquaintance gone south or whatever your beef is with whoever doesnít make sense.

About1/12 of the world has Scorpio sun. More have ascendant, moon, or other sensitive points or planets.

You will run out of people to talk about astrology to, if you are zeroing in on the negative because you feel victimized and want revenge.

Sounds atypically Scorpionic.

Kind of funny though.
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Thatís the usual. Or money.

Either way judging all Scorpio influences based on one failed friendship/relationship/work acquaintance gone south or whatever your beef is with whoever doesnít make sense.

About1/12 of the world has Scorpio sun. More have ascendant, moon, or other sensitive points or planets.

You will run out of people to talk about astrology to, if you are zeroing in on the negative because you feel victimized and want revenge.

Sounds atypically Scorpionic.

Kind of funny though.
I am not judging any sign or having ill will, I am stating facts. Astrology is trying to desperately make one sign out to be all powerful and I am calling out this BS. Not sure why your skin is so thin over it.
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I am not judging any sign or having ill will, I am stating facts. Astrology is trying to desperately make one sign out to be all powerful and I am calling out this BS. Not sure why your skin is so thin over it.
What would be the motivation for all Modernistic astrologers to "desperately" portray one Sign as imparting more strength than another? I haven't really noticed it myself (which doesn't necessarily mean it's not happening). Also, there's a lot of disagreement among astrologers in so many areas, it may be that you're "painting with too broad a brush"--you know, "over-generalizing".

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