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In who or what did you put your faith in and why?
Silly Pet, don’t waste my time on questions you already know the answer to.

The Cosmos, because it is believable. The other theories are nonsensical to me.

Read the secret book of John. Specifically the creation of Adam.

With your astrological background, the numbers should be familiar.


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Read the secret book of John. Specifically the creation of Adam.
I've read it. It is an obvious forgery written by a pagan who could not even imitate a Jewish hand. There are better forgeries that can imitate that.

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With your astrological background, the numbers should be familiar.
You should turn your back on astrological ground and familiarise yourself with the star of Jacob prophesied in the book of Numbers (or ''in the desert''). This is how the group of magi found the star, since no Hellenistic, Indian or Modern astrologer came to visit and worship the Word that became flesh. They could only know this from the Law and the Prophets.
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Hi, JA

I already replied to you in one of your echo chambers.

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Documentary evidence besides the writings of the apostles exists in what the prophets said in advance about the Messiah.

Only secondary is the account of the disciples of the apostles such as Clement and Polycarp. Josephus indisputably wrote of the martyrdom of James the brother of the Lord shortly before the fall of Jerusalem. I don't consider the passage about Christ reliable in any reconstructed way.

Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny and the Talmud mention facts about Jesus of Nazareth and his early disciples in a blasphemous or murderous way.
I personally do not need those outside sources, since I've found enough internal evidence that the 27 books of the New Testament can only be of divine origin.
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I've read it. It is an obvious forgery written by a pagan who could not even imitate a Jewish hand. There are better forgeries that can imitate that.

You should turn your back on astrological ground and familiarise yourself with the star of Jacob prophesied in the book of Numbers (or ''in the desert''). This is how the group of magi found the star, since no Hellenistic, Indian or Modern astrologer came to visit and worship the Word that became flesh. They could only know this from the Law and the Prophets.
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Hi Monk - Documentary evidence outside of the New Testament
is limited

The most detailed record of the life and death of Jesus
comes from the four Gospels and other New Testament writings.
“....These are all Christian and are obviously and understandably biased
in what they report, and have to be evaluated very critically indeed
to establish any historically reliable information

But

their central claims

about Jesus as a historical figure
a Jew, with followers
executed on orders of the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate
during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius
are mentioned by later sources
with a completely different set of biases.”

Within a few decades of his lifetime
Jesus was mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians
in passages that corroborate portions of the New Testament
that describe the life and death of Jesus.
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus
twice mentions Jesus in Jewish Antiquities
his massive 20-volume history of the Jewish people that was written around 93 A.D.
Thought to have been born a few years after
the crucifixion of Jesus around 37 A.D
Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat
and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee
during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70 A.D.
Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus
“....he was around when the early church was getting started
so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus.....”

In one passage of Jewish Antiquities
debate surrounds Josephus’s lengthier passage about Jesus
known as the “Testimonium Flavianum,”
which describes a man “....who did surprising deeds....”
and was condemned to be crucified by Pilate.
Most scholars state
that Christian scribes modified portions of the passage
but did not insert it wholesale into the text.
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Sounds like getting to the heart of the matter!
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I've read it. It is an obvious forgery written by a pagan who could not even imitate a Jewish hand. There are better forgeries that can imitate that.



You should turn your back on astrological ground and familiarise yourself with the star of Jacob prophesied in the book of Numbers (or ''in the desert''). This is how the group of magi found the star, since no Hellenistic, Indian or Modern astrologer came to visit and worship the Word that became flesh. They could only know this from the Law and the Prophets.
I prefer them. You should refrain from trying to convince me. I will never change back to that. My eyes have been opened.

Good luck with yours, may it fulfill your soul, as mine already has been.
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I prefer them. You should refrain from trying to convince me. I will never change back to that. My eyes have been opened.

Good luck with yours, may it fulfill your soul, as mine already has been.
But you do agree that the apocryphon of John is a forgery?
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Hi Opal,
Yes you are right, some think Lionsgate is important for Sirius meditation,

i'm suspicious of Sirius meditation, however it does fall on my birthday!
Sirius rising with the Sun on 08/08/2020
falls along the 47th degree parallel North line, that cuts through Seattle and Canada,
perhaps time to meditate on world healing?
https://www.ask-angels.com/spiritual...te-activation/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47th_parallel_north





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Re: Da Vinci Code – Is Any Of It Fact?

Hi Jup, David and Opal,
The reason i'm suspicious of Sirius, is that it is deemed by many to be very powerful, but i feel it has dualism involved.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_in_cosmology


The power can be used by opposites, or by those who don't fully know the implications, after all since the dawn of time, it has been used by "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"., meaning sometimes used for evil, my term for evil could be different by definition to another.


No doubt there are some secret societies that use the power of Sirius in a good way, but i'm not sure of which they are.
I have never been a member, nor wanted to, my membership was only the Ghost Club and The College of Psychic Studies.


If you do meditate on 08/08/2020 on Sirius, have a back up plan that you don't draw something down that you would not want, sit within a circle of salt closing it with a prayer on Lionsgate Day.
https://pembrokeshireseasalt.co.uk/2...pinch-of-salt/

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But you do agree that the apocryphon of John is a forgery?
No. I believe that the Bible writers made choices, based on the control of the people. The Cosmos doesn't need taxation. Governments want your submission and money, and as with covid, the bigger the lie, the easier the sell.

Your truth is not mine.
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''Besides the above, they adduce an unspeakable number of apocryphal and spurious writings, which they themselves have forged, to bewilder the minds of foolish men, and of such as are ignorant of the Scriptures of truth.'' - Irenaeus

I believe that the early Christians had an easy method of weeding out spurious works. If anything disagrees with the Law and the Prophets, then it is not of God.

Your book says that Jesus was self-generated. That is a blasphemy. He was begotten by the unbegotten Father (Psalm 2, Prov. 8:22), by the very nature of being a Son.

It also says that the Father who said through his Son, Word and Angel ''there is no God besides Me'' is a created and an ignorant being. That is a blasphemy and telling people to follow other gods than YHVH.

And since the Jews also accept the Law and the Prophets without accepting our canon, this an irresistible (you can't disprove this) proof that the Christians did not corrupt their writings as Muslems and New Agers like you like to claim. For the New Testament breathes the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms at every single passage, while the writings of the false prophets and ancient forgerers often war with them.

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''Besides the above, they adduce an unspeakable number of apocryphal and spurious writings, which they themselves have forged, to bewilder the minds of foolish men, and of such as are ignorant of the Scriptures of truth.'' - Irenaeus

I believe that the early Christians had an easy method of weeding out spurious works. If anything disagrees with the Law and the Prophets, then it is not of God.

Your book says that Jesus was self-generated. That is a blasphemy. He was begotten by the unbegotten Father (Psalm 2, Prov. 8:22), by the very nature of being a Son.

It also says that the Father who said through his Son, Word and Angel ''there is no God besides Me'' is a created and an ignorant being. That is a blasphemy and telling people to follow other gods than YHVH.

And since the Jews also accept the Law and the Prophets without accepting our canon, this an irresistible (you can't disprove this) proof that the Christians did not corrupt their writings as Muslems and New Agers like you like to claim. For the New Testament breathes the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms at every single passage, while the writings of the false prophets and ancient forgerers often war with them.
Whatever, not going to argue with you.
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But you do agree that the apocryphon of John is a forgery?

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Hi Monk - Siriusly reasoning








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Hi Jup, David and Opal,
The reason i'm suspicious of Sirius, is that it is deemed by many to be very powerful, but i feel it has dualism involved.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_in_cosmology


The power can be used by opposites, or by those who don't fully know the implications, after all since the dawn of time, it has been used by "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"., meaning sometimes used for evil, my term for evil could be different by definition to another.


No doubt there are some secret societies that use the power of Sirius in a good way, but i'm not sure of which they are.
I have never been a member, nor wanted to, my membership was only the Ghost Club and The College of Psychic Studies.

If you do meditate on 08/08/2020 on Sirius, have a back up plan that you don't draw something down that you would not want, sit within a circle of salt closing it with a prayer on Lionsgate Day.
https://pembrokeshireseasalt.co.uk/2...pinch-of-salt/
Hi Monk - using Sirius reasoning


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Whatever, not going to argue with you.
As I said, you can't argue that the Old Testament was corrupted by Jews and Christians. Also most Dead Sea Scrolls predate the time of Jesus (in the flesh) and have almost identical readings of the MT - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dead-Sea-Scrolls
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As I said, you can't argue that the Old Testament was corrupted by Jews and Christians. Also most Dead Sea Scrolls predate the time of Jesus (in the flesh) and have almost identical readings of the MT - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dead-Sea-Scrolls
I didn't say can't, I said won't.

There is a difference.
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I didn't say can't, I said won't.

There is a difference.
I am a person of mediocre memory and have read and studied more of the occult and the Scriptures than you. You probably won't tell me something that I haven't read or heard before anyway.
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I am a person of mediocre memory





and have read and studied more of the occult and the Scriptures than you. You probably won't tell me something that I haven't read or heard before anyway.

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What kind of demonic power makes one exalt Judas of whom the Saviour

said it would better for him if he had not been born?

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In who or what did you put your faith in and why?








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Hi Petosiris,
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I am not part of any denomination currently

though I have been in the past for a few years.
I said I want to be part of the congregation of Christ
according to the scriptures.
Perhaps you need to start your own church,

it is fairly easy,
claim you have had a vision on day that is aligned to Sirius
or Alnilam.
Please see 7th January 1934 below in Eugene, Oregon:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_..._International

Ancient Greek day marker being previous sunset to 7th January 1934
as Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star rises
graph on private members download.

I'm not keen on your belief of speaking in tongues that is gibberish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkLKJwzRlU
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Hi Petosiris,
I'm being respectful,
but in your faith do you believe in "Speaking in Tongues" in your church?
I leave viewers to make up their own minds over this without comment,
on video below:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Ep0WHAsIY
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I believe that God the Father doesn't have a form
i.e.
is formless
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He also says that true worshippers worship the only God,

who is incorporeal,

in the Holy Spirit and the Truth,
not with forms and idols.
you also said
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I don't understand.

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

doesn't have a form.


Siriusly fact check
religion has strong Egyptian links
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What is the evidence for it?




evidence for the Egyptian link is obvious







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Perhaps you need to start your own church....
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Who cares?
Indeed
no one is forcing you to participate on this thread
your remarks are mostly
of the following strange nature
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......yet you are so hardened and blinded by the devil,
that you refuse to see and love the truth.


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Hi Jup, David and Opal,
The reason i'm suspicious of Sirius, is that it is deemed by many to be very powerful, but i feel it has dualism involved.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_in_cosmology


The power can be used by opposites, or by those who don't fully know the implications, after all since the dawn of time, it has been used by "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"., meaning sometimes used for evil, my term for evil could be different by definition to another.


No doubt there are some secret societies that use the power of Sirius in a good way, but i'm not sure of which they are.
I have never been a member, nor wanted to, my membership was only the Ghost Club and The College of Psychic Studies.

If you do meditate on 08/08/2020 on Sirius, have a back up plan that you don't draw something down that you would not want, sit within a circle of salt closing it with a prayer on Lionsgate Day.
https://pembrokeshireseasalt.co.uk/2...pinch-of-salt/
Hi Monk - using Sirius reasoning





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I've read it. It is an obvious forgery written by a pagan who could not even imitate a Jewish hand. There are better forgeries that can imitate that.



You should turn your back on astrological ground and familiarise yourself with the star of Jacob prophesied in the book of Numbers (or ''in the desert''). This is how the group of magi found the star, since no Hellenistic, Indian or Modern astrologer came to visit and worship the Word that became flesh. They could only know this from the Law and the Prophets.
That is your opinion and, you are entitled to it.

I see the Bible as selective mind control, written to control the masses.

I could not ever turn my back on the truth of astrology.

The controlling class, that wrote the Bible, had an agenda. Soon enough, it will be time for a new agenda. Aquarius, will have its turn. tick, tick, tock.
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I am a person of mediocre memory and have read and studied more of the occult and the Scriptures than you. You probably won't tell me something that I haven't read or heard before anyway.
It is not the quantity of what a person reads, it is how they interpret it for themselves.

I probably won't tell you something you are not aware of. You have decided, for yourself? what your beliefs are.

You believe what others have interpreted for you of the Bible. I am good with that, and happy for you, that you have found something that fulfils you, and you do not fear what comes for you in the end.

I do not either, for my faith is strong, maybe even stronger than yours, just not in your faith.
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Hi Opal, David and Jup,


I thought video below would interest about ancient Egypt, although most would know about the alleged cover-up, it is still worth seeing:-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gEJeZOfpM&app=desktop
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Hi Opal, David and Jup,


I thought video below would interest about ancient Egypt, although most would know about the alleged cover-up, it is still worth seeing:-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gEJeZOfpM&app=desktop
What's the motivation for a cover-up?
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What's the motivation for a cover-up?

Hi David,


Sometimes finding stuff that flies into the face of accepted thinking makes investigators hide finds, but who knows whats under the Sphinx?


Controversial finds do tend to be hidden as shown below:-
https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/25/s...in-brazil.html


Zahi Hawass is very controversial as shown below:-
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/eg...d-theft-172356
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Re: Da Vinci Code – Is Any Of It Fact?

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What's the motivation for a cover-up?



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