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Unread 07-10-2020, 07:30 AM
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Re: Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

Get over yourself David, it's about BLM and stop following me like JupiterAC did to push me off the thread.
We NEED a dictator now to stand up against the left who have gone nuts and support anarchy, violence and death.

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I'm not happy with your sudden approval of our "Dictator-in-Chief".
But, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.


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I think it's the right thing for him to speak out against such a violent group or maybe you agree with BLM hateful chant of killing police whether they are black or white or asian they couldn't care about any of them, they want them dead.



Trump also criticized cuts to the city’s police department and wrote on Twitter that Mayor Bill de Blasio’s decision to paint Black Lives Matter on the street outside Trump Tower is “denigrating this luxury Avenue”.


“This will further antagonize New York’s Finest, who LOVE New York & vividly remember the horrible BLM chant, ‘Pigs In A Blanket, Fry ‘Em Like Bacon,’” Trump wrote. “Maybe our GREAT Police, who have been neutralized and scorned by a mayor who hates & disrespects them, won’t let this symbol of hate be affixed to New York’s greatest street. Spend this money fighting crime instead!”
The police are a violent group, and so is the National Guard. You have no objection to their excesses?

Police have been killing at least twice the number of black people than their percentage of the overall population, and double that number of white people, in addition to many brown people.

You have no problem with that?
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Police have been killing at least twice the number of black people than their percentage of the overall population, and double that number of white people, in addition to many brown people.
Interesting.

So there is more police brutality against whites than there is against blacks?

So you are saying All lives matter?
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I would suggest more psychological screening of police recruits, to weed out the bad apples, as well as higher salaries in recompense for doing a dangerous job in the least violent way possible.
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I would suggest more psychological screening of police recruits, to weed out the bad apples, as well as higher salaries in recompense for doing a dangerous job in the least violent way possible.
So you are saying the democrats who run Minneapolis city didn't do a good job?
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Interesting.

So there is more police brutality against whites than there is against blacks?

So you are saying All lives matter?
That's a slogan supporting the police killings of black citizens at a ratio twice their percentage of the population compared to the ratio of white citizens they kill each year.

I'm saying POLICE BRUTALITY MATTERS!
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Unread 07-10-2020, 07:46 AM
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You think a violent group who want to eliminate the police force within 5 years is going to go away quietly into that good night?
They are just getting started.
This is why I will vote for Trump; the country has to be protected from the woke left who have put control in the hands of violent thugs.




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I predict it will fade away unless it becomes non-violent, as it originally claimed it is.
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Do you blame all white people because some belong to the KKK?
You blame all cops for the actions of a few.

POLICE LIVES MATTER.


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That's a slogan supporting the police killings of black citizens at a ratio twice their percentage of the population compared to the ratio of white citizens they kill each year.

I'm saying POLICE BRUTALITY MATTERS!
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So you are saying the democrats who run Minneapolis city didn't do a good job?
It's happening all across the country. Time for Federal authorities to step in and regulate the situation, like in all cases of the violation of Civil Rights. That's what ended the Jim Crow era.
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Ending police brutality will save the lives of both police and the victims of police brutality!
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The police are not a violent group but they deal with violent criminals and a tiny percentage have killed black people but you lump them exactly as BLM portrays them.

You don't have a problem with the black on black crime which kills young black males primarily in the thousands each year.

Keeping your head buried in the sand about who is the violent group not helping solve the problem.

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The police are a violent group, and so is the National Guard. You have no objection to their excesses?

Police have been killing at least twice the number of black people than their percentage of the overall population, and double that number of white people, in addition to many brown people.

You have no problem with that?
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How can anyone be against ending police brutality???
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There are both good cops and bad cops.

The bad cops put everyone's life at risk, including those of the good cops.
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Weed out the bad cops, and raise the salaries of the good cops, even if it takes Federal $$$ and oversight to accomplish that.
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Re: Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

How can anyone condone black on black crime by not speaking out against it?



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How can anyone be against ending police brutality???
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Unread 07-10-2020, 08:17 AM
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Re: Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

BLM don't think there are any good cops. They want them all gone within 5 years. Aren't you aware of their agenda?

BLACK LIVES MATTER LEADER OUTLINES FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO ELIMINATE POLICE
“One of the things that we are demanding over five years is the complete abolition. We don’t want to see any police in our community,” Ndgo told Fox News in an interview Tuesday. “Over the course of those five years, it gives time for the community to begin to build what is needed. We aren’t looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety.”

https://www.blackenterprise.com/blac...minate-police/

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Unread 07-10-2020, 08:33 AM
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BLM don't think there are any good cops. They want them all gone within 5 years. Aren't you aware of their agenda?

BLACK LIVES MATTER LEADER OUTLINES FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO ELIMINATE POLICE
“One of the things that we are demanding over five years is the complete abolition. We don’t want to see any police in our community,” Ndgo told Fox News in an interview Tuesday. “Over the course of those five years, it gives time for the community to begin to build what is needed. We aren’t looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety.”

https://www.blackenterprise.com/blac...minate-police/
BLM is a loosely affiliated organization, similar to Occupy Now. There IS NO "MASTER PLAN". This nutcase Ndgo is a nobody in Philly, propped up by Fox News to frighten you.
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"Police Brutality Matters NOW!"

Weed out the bad cops and any higher ups that shield them from being held accountable!

Pay the good cops more in appreciation of their hard and dangerous service to the community!

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We don't need a so-called "Law and Order" dictator like Trump, who panders to the White Supremacists.

We need a Civil Rights President of all the people.
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https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/n.../02/297361.htm

Those riots, however, were largely confined to one metropolitan area. Destruction and looting that erupted after Floyd’s death was reported in at least 25 cities, and spread into many suburbs as well. The extent of damage was unknown as of late Monday, but a sample of local news reports suggests that it is widespread:
  • In Pittsburgh, the Public Safety department reported 50 businesses and properties in downtown area were damaged.
  • The Downtown Seattle Association reported that 50 businesses had damaged downtown and in the neighboring Chinatown-International District.
  • The Chicago Loop Alliance said at least 45 property were damaged in the downtown area by rioting that also spread into the cities suburbs.
  • In Madison, Wisconsin, 75 businesses were damaged and some were looted.
This article is from 2 June 2020. A month ago ... does not include all the additional looting and rioting that came after.

The BLM movement are literally destroying the small business owners, property owners, and public property. They are hurting the livelihood of innocent people, whom by the way had already been hurt by the COVID19 lockdowns.

This isn't a peaceful protest. This is an attempt to disrupt society.
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What I am seeing on this thread is a lot of fear and hysteria.

No, the sky is not falling.

It's important to be a connoisseur of what you read. Someone is whipping up the right-wingers into a fever pitch. And it's not bereaved mothers of murdered Black children.

Marxism in the US is not going to happen, guys. You can relax about it. Breathe. Notably those of you who do not even live in the United States and are not US citizens.

(I'm a US-born citizen and taxpayer who lives in Canada.)

If some Black Lives Matter advocates are Marxists, that's their prerogative under the First Amendment. Just as your prerogative is to be a far-right Libertarian. Marxists do not represent the political views of the millions of Americans of all ethnicities who support Black Lives Matter. (See this recent poll by the respected Pew Memorial Trust.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020...tter-movement/ )

Yes, there are self-proclaimed leaders and organizations. They certainly do not represent the entire movement which is far larger and more diffuse. By analogy, you wouldn't argue that the Pope is the leader of everyone who believes in God.

In an interesting contrast to the right-wing "Red under the Bed" hysteria, my little town in western Canada held a peaceful demonstration in support of Black Lives Matter. Not a Marxist in sight-- or an African American, for that matter, because the border is closed to most traffic. Many similar peaceful demonstrations have been held internationally.

Following the rally in my community, some high school students posted Black Lives Matter slogans in chalk on a retaining wall as my husband and I happened to drive by. They included "Defund the Police." I wondered how our local Mounties would feel about that.

I later read in the local paper that a passerby started haranguing the girls. The RCMP stopped by, chatted with them, and later came by with some Gatoraid and candy for them.

To 99% of sensible Americans, "defund the police" doesn't mean abolishing police departments. Big Duh-uh, there. It means re-directing funds from unsupportive, militaristic policing into social services that best address the needs of the community.

Too often police are simply not the ones with backgrounds in mental illness crises, domestic violence, and drug addiction. Sometimes rogue police officers do not follow their own regulations. Of course, some police departments and individual officers are much better in addressing social issues than others. "Defund the Police" simply means more attention to getting at the roots of crime.

"Defund the police" is an eye-opening slogan designed to get your attention. Don't worry. Your local police department isn't going away. Hopefully your municipality will rethink its emphases, however.

OK, now, feel calmer and better?
You are in Canada. You have no clue what is actually going on here. Portland and Seattle, for just 2 examples, are being torn apart, financially, physically structurally by these anarchists. The beautiful downtown parks in Portland have been decimated. So was their upscale shopping district. It is boarded up and full of dirty words and ugly graffiti. Beautiful marble fountains and bronze statues have been destroyed. The public bathrooms vandalised and torn up. The streets are empty other than the angry rioters and the cops.

The police are overwhelmed, exhausted and demoralised. The city budget is about to be bankrupted because the riots have been ongoing, every night for over a month. They protest until sunrise. And damage the buildings, throw fireworks and bottles, point strong lasers into the cops eyes. 50 cops have been injured so far. Two federal buildings have been heavily damaged.

And this^^^^ is going on across the nation. Probably 50 cities have simi8lar situations. And it is not about BLM anymore. It is the anarchists.marxists trying to tear apart our government. By rioting every night, they are successfully keeping our businesses from reopening, and bankrupting our city budgets at the same time.

So don't sit up there in another country and dismiss or minimise what I SEE with my own eyes. I watch the live-streams from the protesters themselves. It shows EXACTLY what is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWuhHUS2rRU

Here is just one minute. Multiply that by 12 hours a day, across the country in many cities.
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Re: Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

As for the defund the police, don't be condescending. I know exactly what that means. Probably much better than you do, as I have two close family members in Law Enforcement right now. Saying snarky things like 'now breathe, calm down' is not helpful.

Our police officers are under a tremendous amount of stress. They feel abandoned and are being falsely accused. Even if someone points a gun at them, if they shoot in self defense, these protesters still count that as 'murder by cop.'

How do you think they feel when they go on patrol these days. frightened to death to have to pull a weapon out, but might die if they don't. Especially in such volatile times.

Our cops are retiring and quitting in very large numbers. And very few recruits are coming forward. The quality of new applicants is very poor. This is a huge problem for our departments.

The Jupiter/Pluto/Satrun in Capricorn is killing our police departments at this time. I hope it can be reborn in a positive way but it is going to be very ugly until then. There will likely continue to be a lot of spikes in violent crimes, as we are currently seeing in NYC and Chicago. It is tragic and brutal.
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Unread 07-10-2020, 11:42 AM
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Not seeing it where I am on the Central Coast. Just some young people hanging homemade nooses on street signs.

My guess is, the Trump administration is paying provocateurs to make it possible for him to declare martial law and suspend the Election. It's been predicted that he won't accept being voted out of office. There's no way to determine who's a BLM member and who's a paid agitator.
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Wake up. BLM is fooling you. Theryt are deflecting from the main problems.

They keep pointing to the officers, accusing them of brutality. But look closely at most of these cases. The cops were sent to the locations by 911, because of crimes being committed.

If they come up to a gas station robbery and chase the robber, are they not likely to get in a scuffle, or chase or even a shootout?

How can a human not be frightened and defensive when fighting for their own life against someone trying to harm them?

BLM is pointing to the cops as the brutal ones. But are they saying anything about the large amount of violent crimes being perpetrated by some in their community?

How do they expect the police to step back and not fight with their black men if these same men are robbing or gang banging or shooting at others?

We hear nothing about what BLM will do to try and change their behaviour. They want you to think that it is the police that are the violent criminals, and not the young men in the inner cities, that commit a large percentage of our nation's crimes.
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That's a slogan supporting the police killings of black citizens at a ratio twice their percentage of the population compared to the ratio of white citizens they kill each year.

I'm saying POLICE BRUTALITY MATTERS!
And why do you think that is? When my son in law gets a 911 call, is he more likely to be sent to a low income neighborhood, or a suburb?
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