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Are you sheltering in place?
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Sick or know someone who is? (Hopefully not.)
No, unless I or someone I know is an asymptomatic carrier. That's always possible. And I don't know what's going on with everyone I know. I do know people who have other kinds of illnesses, and whether they'll have access to the treatment they need is now a question.

I did have some nasty seasonal allergies last week, but the telltale itchy, watery eyes and nose told me that was all it was.

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Going out and living your normal life?
Not exactly. I still have work--my job is deemed essential and cannot be done from home--but things have changed a lot. And a good portion of my life has been participation in various group activities. All that is off now.

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Has it affected you financially?
For the moment, no, and I'm VERY lucky. I have been thinking about what I could do for one or more additional streams of income--my paycheck covers basic expenses, but I'll need more to be sustainable in the long run--and now my choices are severely limited. Since I'm still working, I haven't lost any pay. If the shutdown gets more severe, though, who knows.

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Do you see some astrology in this?
Of course! Jupiter-Mars-Saturn-Pluto.

Somewhere, sometime back, I think it was in the traditional forum, someone said that in a plague, an angular Jupiter in fall or detriment would greatly increase the body count. I don't know which house of the pandemic chart Jupiter falls in (or if there even is a valid pandemic chart--when is a pandemic born?), but it's in detriment right now, and with all the malefics. Plus, this isolation is so Saturnian to the extreme, and Plutonian too. (Does each country perhaps have a separate pandemic chart, for when it first surfaced in that country? That could account, astrologically, for different outcomes in different places.)
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It's the 31st March I'm scared about, with the Jupiter conjunction to pluto and with the mars conjunction to Saturn at the same time.

I've just come across this video in my youtube recommendations, and this boy made astrological predictions 7 months ago, and they've all so far come true, but the next one is for the end of March.

I'll link the video here, but I will say that the audio quality is not that great. I've been mostly reading the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyNhpqMIHY&t=442s
Fascinating video, thanks for posting it.
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Banks are greedy. They won’t shut even if someone dies. Trust me I worked in banking for two decades. They will stay open and guilt trip everyone. They will say a bank is ‘necessary’ as ppl need it. This is how they manipulate the government. A cheeky back hander
Banks are an essential service. Today a lot of banking can be done electronically, but not all of it.

I was a bit perturbed when I went to our local bank last week to take out some cash for possible emergency use. (Like what happens if the banks close down and the ATMS are empty?) After using the touch screen and key pad on the ATM in the lobby, I went into the bank proper, and suggested to a teller that they put some hand sanitizer out there. I was told that they had been putting hand sanitizer by the ATMS, but people stole it.
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Banks are an essential service. Today a lot of banking can be done electronically, but not all of it.

I was a bit perturbed when I went to our local bank last week to take out some cash for possible emergency use. (Like what happens if the banks close down and the ATMS are empty?) After using the touch screen and key pad on the ATM in the lobby, I went into the bank proper, and suggested to a teller that they put some hand sanitizer out there. I was told that they had been putting hand sanitizer by the ATMS, but people stole it.
I wonder if the touch screen works when you have disposable gloves on?
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Banks are an essential service. Today a lot of banking can be done electronically, but not all of it.

I was a bit perturbed when I went to our local bank last week to take out some cash for possible emergency use. (Like what happens if the banks close down and the ATMS are empty?) After using the touch screen and key pad on the ATM in the lobby, I went into the bank proper, and suggested to a teller that they put some hand sanitizer out there. I was told that they had been putting hand sanitizer by the ATMS, but people stole it.
Everything one comes in for right now can be done electronically even now to pay cheques in.

Local businesses don’t need to use the bank as the local businesses, non essential, are now closed and the essential ones can have drivers collect the money at their door step.

Putting hand sanitisers by the atm is silly. Of course they will be stolen. And where are they placing them?

ATMs can be filled by staff who can go into to do just that. Other than that the bullion men who are in their protective gear, helmets, bullet proof clothing etc can deliver the money and fill the machine. They do it on bank holidays sometimes if the bank manager is efficient enough to order this.

The fact is atms are essential and therefore staff filling up the machines would be needed. To keep germs etc to a minimum, if the drivers can’t do it, is choose the least vulnerable staff who have no elderly family living with them and have no underlying conditions. Then stay two meters apart. They can use gloves to deal with the money.

It’s not hard. But banks choose to stay open and put their staff at risk. They have always done this. Then what happens is, the public have higher expectations.

When it snows and there is no transport they force staff to go in. Force them which means instead of directly telling them they indirectly tell them to drive.
They are under paid and over worked

We used to live a champagne lifestyle on Lemonade wages

It’s all for show
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I am isolating at home, but only because I am sick. In case I would have been healthy I would not be allowed to isolate. I believe that several people I know have had the virus, but they only test people who are in need of hospital care so we don´t know.

In Sweden we are less restrictive than in all other countries it seems. The trams/subways are crowded, people go to afterski and nightclubs, schools are open. Today they decided that people are not allowed to stand in line to buffes at restaurants, but buffes are still allowed. They also say that gatherings of more than 500 people are not allowed. We should basically live as usual but wash our hands more. If we get sick we should stay home.

Currently my financial situation is stable.

I believe that Pluto is demolishing the structures of our societies (Saturn). I do not know a lot about astrology but it seems to me that Mars and Jupiter
are triggering the conjunction.

When transit Pluto and Saturn began to hit my natal Pluto-Saturn last year, I developed a lung disease. Now a disease is spreading that is affecting the lungs. Recently they talked about fires in the Amazons and there have been other forest fires in the world. The "lungs" of the earth are being damaged. Now that we are not able to pollute the air as much it gets less toxic. My theory is that the current transits somehow are related to the lungs.

I believe that we need to change. Pluto always forces us in drastical ways if
we don´t do it voluntarily.

Last year I felt the tension growing stronger and stronger among people as Pluto and Saturn were closing in on each other. A feeling of "I feel imprisoned by my life. I get up, go to work and do as I am told, eat and sleep. I feel trapped and it feels as if I "can´t breathe". People have reached a point where they are really fed up with the "system" and bad leadership (Saturn).
They don´t want to feel like controlled slaves and they don´t want the planet to be destroyed. They want to feel more free (Jupiter), more inspired (inspiration also means inhalation), fulfilled and happy. Now that the planets have met and this crisis has emerged, a demolition/transformation
is taking place and people are naturally filled with fear. The fear is really heavy in the air.

We need to just feel the fear and do our best. We will have to realize that the people with a lot of power won´t start to care about and take care of the earth and it´s inhabitants. It is up to all of us to take responsability for taking care or ourselves, taking care of each other and the planet. We vote on the future we want to see with all our actions and with every cent that we spend.

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“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
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I have been going to the supermarkets to get some necessities and the aisles are emptying.

Its ridiculous and town/shopping centres from what I've seen are beginning to look like ghost towns.

I too have been isolating at home and preoccupying myself by reading a lot of stuff from the internet and books.
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I wonder if the touch screen works when you have disposable gloves on?
I have to wear gloves in my work, routinely, and I can use my smartphone with them on, though with some difficulty (the screen doesn't always respond at first or even fourth touch). I expect the same from an ATM touch screen.
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In Sweden we are less restrictive than in all other countries it seems. The trams/subways are crowded, people go to afterski and nightclubs, schools are open. Today they decided that people are not allowed to stand in line to buffes at restaurants, but buffes are still allowed. They also say that gatherings of more than 500 people are not allowed. We should basically live as usual but wash our hands more. If we get sick we should stay home.
That's where we were two weeks ago. The situation changed drastically in that time.
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It works, but it's glitchy.
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Just read in your previous post about your sis in law and brother having it

Since all this I've been drinking hot lemon water daily, it alkalizes the body which viruses cant survive in. Tell her to drink some fresh lemon water to help.
My mother's home remedy was hot lemonade. She added sugar, but I prefer honey. It's also a good source of vitamin C.

My husband and I are retirees, so it's not such a hardship to stay home. On the other hand, our age puts us in a high risk group.

I'm a bit bugged by the mixed messages we receive. We're told to lay in a 2-weeks supply of food. But when people do that, they're accused of hoarding. And frankly this thing is going to go on for longer than 2 weeks.
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It works, but it's glitchy.
I read an article some time ago about the touch screens at MacDonalds.
These are rarely cleaned, and it seems they test for a high content of feces!
So maybe with the virus regulations, people will get into the habit of washing their hands more often!
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Neptunian Rainbow, I hope you feel better soon. This is a good time just to stay home.

A lot of craziness in the US. Now Donald Trump and the governor of Texas are saying it's OK to sacrifice granny to COVID-19 if opening more businesses to customers will keep the economy going. Obviously overworked (and sometimes infected) ER doctors and nurses don't think this is helpful.
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I have a feeling they will up things another level in the UK very shortly, maybe the mars/Saturn conjunction will be what triggers this happening. I don't think Uk is taking it so seriously, yes they are staying inside more, but I've still seen groups of children in the park and non-family members visiting homes they don't live at. Because the suns now [coincidentally] come out now as well and the weathers got warmer, people are thinking this is one big holiday.

I'm using my time productively so far. I'm glad I've got a lot of hobbies I like to do or I'd be tearing my hair out if not.
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I have a feeling they will up things another level in the UK very shortly, maybe the mars/Saturn conjunction will be what triggers this happening. I don't think Uk is taking it so seriously, yes they are staying inside more, but I've still seen groups of children in the park and non-family members visiting homes they don't live at. Because the suns now [coincidentally] come out now as well and the weathers got warmer, people are thinking this is one big holiday.

I'm using my time productively so far. I'm glad I've got a lot of hobbies I like to do or I'd be tearing my hair out if not.
I think U.K. will up things too. Ppl are taking the ****

In India they beat the shite out of ppl unfortunately they don’t do that in U.K. and USA etc but when I see ppl on the news taking the **** I want the police to follow the indian police and beat the shot out of them all. Sometimes though a good beating won’t knock sense into ppl but they can try! 😊👍
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In the US people are terrible at reading photos. They are shaming parents with multiple tiny children for getting them sunshine, and giving passes to adults who travel and look solo and sophisticated and stay under the radar while socializing. They are shaming people who go to homes to take care of family members, go out to their essential jobs, and almost deliberately ignoring parties in bars. I am so tired of people calling desperately for fascism. Let me go crawl into a hole since we’ll be there longer than necessary for all the unstated reasons.
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I think U.K. will up things too. Ppl are taking the ****

In India they beat the shite out of ppl unfortunately they don’t do that in U.K. and USA etc but when I see ppl on the news taking the **** I want the police to follow the indian police and beat the shot out of them all. Sometimes though a good beating won’t knock sense into ppl but they can try! ����

In France if you want to be outside of your home, you need to print a paper.
And select the reason (for example buying food, helping someone in danger (like an elderly), walking your dog, going at work, or other important reasons.) You have to write an accurate hour for your short travel. And we're restricted in the distance too. If you don't have this paper outside, or have a wrong reason/hour, police will give you a fine. (and they increase the amounts progressively because a lot of people still doesn't respect the lockdown)
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Three M symbols, this is what they are doing now in Italy. They waited too long, but better late than never.
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In France if you want to be outside of your home, you need to print a paper.
And select the reason (for example buying food, helping someone in danger (like an elderly), walking your dog, going at work, or other important reasons.) You have to write an accurate hour for your short travel. And we're restricted in the distance too. If you don't have this paper outside, or have a wrong reason/hour, police will give you a fine. (and they increase the amounts progressively because a lot of people still doesn't respect the lockdown)
I agree with EJ Better late than never. Everything they are doing is to stop the virus spreading and to save lives. Is this working in France. What’s the death rate and contagious rate so far now?
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I agree with EJ Better late than never. Everything they are doing is to stop the virus spreading and to save lives. Is this working in France. What’s the death rate and contagious rate so far now?

You can find the rate of France (and other countries) on this site:
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Yes, restrictions and lockdown are helping to slow the virus..
But nurses and doctors are a lot contaminated because in some hospital they lack masks.
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A message that's been posted on Facebook for the Uk.


Dear all,

This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

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