2014 International Champions Cup

EhabAtari

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Match #7 : Real Madrid vs AC Roma
Data : 29/07/2014
Time : 8:15 PM
Location : Dallas, TX - Cotton Bowl

Real Madrid
Number of winning against AC Roma = 4
ASC => Aqu => Saturn
MC => Scrop => Mars

AC Roma
Number of winning against Real Madrid = 3
DSC => Leo => Sun
IC => Tat => Venus

Let's try new way to organize things :

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#7 is inside 7th house => DSC
2. Moon is inside 7th house (I would ignore it , not mentioned in John Frawly Book).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon sextile Lord#4 on 3.2 degrees (Good performance or goal for DSC).
2. Moon sextile Lord #1 on 6 degree (Accepted since extra time is possible).=>ASC
3. Moon oppose P.O.F (2.6 degrees) =>DSC

Moon oppose P.O.F is stronger that Moon sextile Lord#1 (Closer is stronger).

Antisicon Placement

1. ALord #1 is inside 1st house.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

As a result , I am expecting DSC/AC Roma to win this game.

Did I miss any input ?
Ehab Atari
 
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Bodily Placement

1. Lord#7 is inside 7th house => DSC
2. Moon is inside 7th house (I would ignore it , not mentioned in John Frawly Book).

Ehab Atari

Ehab my friend, you really need to conjure your Astrology reading skills. "Moon is inside 7th house (I would ignore it , not mentioned in John Frawly Book)."

I'm sorry to say you have clearly misread the book. Rather clarify by saying it isn't on the cusp or inside the cusp
 

EhabAtari

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I am listing all things that we could have mistakes on it since we are learning and doing knowledge transfer and try to state why we are not considering that condition and that's just for clarification purpose for those who is trying to learn.

I totally understand that we should look for moon on cusp, aspects with POF/APOF , aspects with Lord#1 and Lord#7 as well.

Hope this post clarified my point :)

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Match #6 : Manchester United vs Inter
Data : 29/07/2014
Time : 7:00 PM
Location : Washington D.C. - Fedexfield

As John Frwaly stated if you have CAP/CAN chart , have a look on MC/IC and use color method to determine Fav/Underdog. Both method in our case will work if MU wear his home kit (RED).

Manchester United
Number of winning against Inter = 2
Expected Color Kit = Red
ASC => CAP => Saturn
MC => Scrop => Mars

Inter
Number of winning against Manchester United= 0
Expected Color Kit = White or Blue
DSC => Cancer => Moon/Mercury
IC => Tat => Venus

Let's try new way to organize things :

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#7 is inside 7th house => DSC
2. Pluto is near ASC (3 degrees away).=> Bad news to ASC.
3. Lord #4 is on DSC cusp (I would ignore , I didn't find anything related in John book).

Bodily Aspects

1. Moon sextile Lord#1 on 7.1 degrees ( I would ignore it since we need to consider 6 degrees if there is possibility to extra time).
2. Moon trine ASC on 5.0 degrees (good performance or goal for ASC).
3. Moon sextile MC on 1.7 degrees (good performance or goal for ASC).
4. Moon sextile Lord#4 on 4.2 degrees (good performance or goal for DSC).

Antisicon Placement

Nothing important found.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

As a result , I am expecting DSC/Inter to win this game.

Did I miss any input ?
Ehab Atari
Dear All ,

Ignore my analysis for this game , the game started 30 minutes late from original time. It's suppose to start at 7:00 pm and it's started at 7:30 pm.

Thanks,
Ehab Atari
 

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Match #7 : Real Madrid vs AC Roma
Data : 29/07/2014
Time : 8:15 PM
Location : Dallas, TX - Cotton Bowl

Real Madrid
Number of winning against AC Roma = 4
ASC => Aqu => Saturn
MC => Scrop => Mars

AC Roma
Number of winning against Real Madrid = 3
DSC => Leo => Sun
IC => Tat => Venus

Let's try new way to organize things :

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#7 is inside 7th house => DSC
2. Moon is inside 7th house (I would ignore it , not mentioned in John Frawly Book).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon sextile Lord#4 on 3.2 degrees (Good performance or goal for DSC).
2. Moon sextile Lord #1 on 6 degree (Accepted since extra time is possible).=>ASC
3. Moon oppose P.O.F (2.6 degrees) =>DSC

Moon oppose P.O.F is stronger that Moon sextile Lord#1 (Closer is stronger).

Antisicon Placement

1. ALord #1 is inside 1st house.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

As a result , I am expecting DSC/AC Roma to win this game.

Did I miss any input ?
Ehab Atari
Dear All

Please ignore this analysis , since the game didn't start on agreed time as well , it's delayed.

Ehab Atari
 

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Match #8 : Liverpool FC vs Manchester City
Data : 30/07/2014
Time : 7:00 PM
Location : New York, NY - Yankee Stadium

As John Frawly , when we have CAP/CAN charts , we have to look into MC/IC and use color method in that case.

Liverpool
Number of winning against Manchester City= 14
ASC => CAP => Saturn
MC => Scrop => Mars
Expected Color = Red. (I can't confirm color)

Manchester City
Number of winning against Liverpool = 5
DSC => Cancer => Moon / Mercury
IC => Tat => Venus
Expected Color = Light Blue or Black. (I can't confirm color)

Bodily Placement

1. Lord #7 is inside 7th house.
2. Lord #4 is in DSC cusp (I didn't find anything about in John book).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon sextile Lord#7 in 6.5 degrees (I would keep it as strong testimony since it last moon aspect).
2. Moon trine ASC (Good performance or goal to ASC).


Antisicon Placement

Nothing important found.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

As a results , I am expecting DSC/Manchester City to win this game.

If the game time changed , result of this analysis would be wrong.

Ehab Atari
 

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Match #8 : Liverpool FC vs Manchester City
Data : 30/07/2014
Time : 7:00 PM
Location : New York, NY - Yankee Stadium

As John Frawly , when we have CAP/CAN charts , we have to look into MC/IC and use color method in that case.

Liverpool
Number of winning against Manchester City= 14
ASC => CAP => Saturn
MC => Scrop => Mars
Expected Color = Red. (I can't confirm color)

Manchester City
Number of winning against Liverpool = 5
DSC => Cancer => Moon / Mercury
IC => Tat => Venus
Expected Color = Light Blue or Black. (I can't confirm color)

Bodily Placement

1. Lord #7 is inside 7th house.
2. Lord #4 is in DSC cusp (I didn't find anything about in John book).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon sextile Lord#7 in 6.5 degrees (I would keep it as strong testimony since it last moon aspect).
2. Moon trine ASC (Good performance or goal to ASC).


Antisicon Placement

Nothing important found.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

As a results , I am expecting DSC/Manchester City to win this game.

If the game time changed , result of this analysis would be wrong.

Ehab Atari
The game started 10 mintues late , so all analysis related to that game would be ignored. Liverpool won Manchester City by penalties.

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Match #9 : Inter vs AC Roma
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 1:00 PM
Location : Philadelphia, PA - Lincoln Financial Field

Inter
Number of winning against AC Roma = 24
ASC => Scrop => Mars
MC => Leo => Saturn

Roma
Number of winning against Inter = 17
DSC=> Tat => Venus
IC => Aqu => Saturn

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#1 in inside 1st House => ASC
2. Lord#10 is inside 10th House => ASC
3. Lord #4 is inside 1st House => Controlled by DSC

Bodily Aspect

Nothing Important Found.

Antisicon Placement

Nothing Important Found.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing Important Found.

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Generally , conditions on bodily placement can give Fav/Inter the winning , and this winning will not be more than 1 or 2 goals differences.

In addition , I am expecting the match to be ended on extra time due to the following conditions :

1. ASC , MC , DSC , IC , Lord#1. on Fixed Angles. Moon and Lord#7 on Cardinal Angles (5:2).
2. Accidental dignities for Lord#1 and Lord#2 => Mars = 14 <=> Venus =11.

Hope my predication become true,
Ehab Atari
 

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Match #10 : Olympiacos vs Manchester City
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 2:00 PM
Location : Minneapolis - TCF Bank Stadium

Both teams didn't play against each other before , so I am going to decide fav/underdog based on color method :

Olympiacos
ASC => Scrop => Mars
MC => Leo => Sun
Expected Color Kit => Red

Manchester City
DSC => Tat => Venus
IC => Aqu => Saturn
Expected Color Kit => Light Blue

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#10 is inside 10th House => ASC.
2. Lord #4 is inside 1st House (ASC control DSC).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon to square P.O.F on 0.3 degrees => DSC.
2. Moon sextile MC (Good performance or goal to ASC).

Notes :all moon's aspects within more than 6 degrees will be ignored.

Antisicon Placement

1. Alord #10 in inside 7th house.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Therefore , I am expecting Moon oppose POF to break Moon VOID and DSC/Man City to win this game.

In addition , I am expecting the match to be ended on extra time due to the following conditions :

1. ASC , MC , DSC , IC , Lord#1. on Fixed Angles. Moon and Lord#7 on Cardinal Angles (5:2).
2. Accidental dignities for Lord#1 and Lord#2 => Mars = 4 <=> Venus =11.

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EhabAtari

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Match #10 : Olympiacos vs Manchester City
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 2:00 PM
Location : Minneapolis - TCF Bank Stadium

Both teams didn't play against each other before , so I am going to decide fav/underdog based on color method :

Olympiacos
ASC => Scrop => Mars
MC => Leo => Sun
Expected Color Kit => Red

Manchester City
DSC => Tat => Venus
IC => Aqu => Saturn
Expected Color Kit => Light Blue

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#10 is inside 10th House => ASC.
2. Lord #4 is inside 1st House (ASC control DSC).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon to square P.O.F on 0.3 degrees => DSC.
2. Moon sextile MC (Good performance or goal to ASC).

Notes :all moon's aspects within more than 6 degrees will be ignored.

Antisicon Placement

1. Alord #10 in inside 7th house.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Therefore , I am expecting Moon oppose POF to break Moon VOID and DSC/Man City to win this game.

Ehab Atari
 

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Match #11 : Manchester United vs Real Madrid
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 4:06 PM
Location : Michigan Stadium - Ann Arbor

Real Madrid

Winning against Manchester City = 3
ASC => Aqu => Saturn
MC => Scorp => Mars

Manchester City

Winning against Real Madrid = 1
DSC => Gem => Mercury
IC => Pis => Jupiter

Bodily Placement

Nothing important found.

Bodily Aspect

1. Lord#1 conjuncts APOF within 3 degrees (Note : Saturn on APOF or POF can NOT be consider maflic if is being Lord#1 or Lord#7 as John Frawly stated in his book) => ASC

Notes : All moon's aspects within more than 6 degrees will be ignored.

Antisicon Placement

1. ALord #7 on 7th house cusp (I am not sure what can bring , I would ignore it).
2. ALord #4 on 7th house cusp (I am not sure what can bring , I would ignore it).

Antisicon Aspects

Repeated from Bodily Aspects :

1. Lord#1 conjuncts APOF within 3 degrees => ASC

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Therefor , I am expecting FAV/Real Madrid to win this game.

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Match #9 : Inter vs AC Roma
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 1:00 PM
Location : Philadelphia, PA - Lincoln Financial Field

Inter
Number of winning against AC Roma = 24
ASC => Scrop => Mars
MC => Leo => Saturn

Roma
Number of winning against Inter = 17
DSC=> Tat => Venus
IC => Aqu => Saturn

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#1 in inside 1st House => ASC
2. Lord#10 is inside 10th House => ASC
3. Lord #4 is inside 1st House => Controlled by DSC

Bodily Aspect

Nothing Important Found.

Antisicon Placement

Nothing Important Found.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing Important Found.

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Generally , conditions on bodily placement can give Fav/Inter the winning , and this winning will not be more than 1 or 2 goals differences.

In addition , I am expecting the match to be ended on extra time due to the following conditions :

1. ASC , MC , DSC , IC , Lord#1. on Fixed Angles. Moon and Lord#7 on Cardinal Angles (5:2).
2. Accidental dignities for Lord#1 and Lord#2 => Mars = 14 <=> Venus =11.

Hope my predication become true,
Ehab Atari
Inter won the game in original time.
 

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Match #10 : Olympiacos vs Manchester City
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 2:00 PM
Location : Minneapolis - TCF Bank Stadium

Both teams didn't play against each other before , so I am going to decide fav/underdog based on color method :

Olympiacos
ASC => Scrop => Mars
MC => Leo => Sun
Expected Color Kit => Red

Manchester City
DSC => Tat => Venus
IC => Aqu => Saturn
Expected Color Kit => Light Blue

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#10 is inside 10th House => ASC.
2. Lord #4 is inside 1st House (ASC control DSC).

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon to square P.O.F on 0.3 degrees => DSC.
2. Moon sextile MC (Good performance or goal to ASC).

Notes :all moon's aspects within more than 6 degrees will be ignored.

Antisicon Placement

1. Alord #10 in inside 7th house.

Antisicon Aspects

Nothing important found.

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Therefore , I am expecting Moon oppose POF to break Moon VOID and DSC/Man City to win this game.

Ehab Atari
Olympiacos won the game , the strange thing here : when they finish their original time they moved directly to penalties , therefore , extra time was not possible in these matches , this is the first time I heard about it.

One more thing we need to consider in coming matches and I missed today (Although I've highlighted in AstroWeekly forum :( ) when the match will be between teams that never play before use the Odds to decide the fav , I had this mistakes 2 times in WorldCup and I am repeating that again.

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Match #11 : Manchester United vs Real Madrid
Data : 02/08/2014
Time : 4:06 PM
Location : Michigan Stadium - Ann Arbor

Real Madrid

Winning against Manchester City = 3
ASC => Aqu => Saturn
MC => Scorp => Mars

Manchester City

Winning against Real Madrid = 1
DSC => Gem => Mercury
IC => Pis => Jupiter

Bodily Placement

Nothing important found.

Bodily Aspect

1. Lord#1 conjuncts APOF within 3 degrees (Note : Saturn on APOF or POF can NOT be consider maflic if is being Lord#1 or Lord#7 as John Frawly stated in his book) => ASC

Notes : All moon's aspects within more than 6 degrees will be ignored.

Antisicon Placement

1. ALord #7 on 7th house cusp (I am not sure what can bring , I would ignore it).
2. ALord #4 on 7th house cusp (I am not sure what can bring , I would ignore it).

Antisicon Aspects

Repeated from Bodily Aspects :

1. Lord#1 conjuncts APOF within 3 degrees => ASC

Note : Moon is VOID (Void of Course) => Means Fav win or draw.

Therefor , I am expecting FAV/Real Madrid to win this game.

Ehab Atari
Saturn on APOF or POF is maflic and it seems that this give NO respect even if is's Lord#1 or Lord#7 , this is the only reason I've to explain the winning of MU today , this maflic was really harmful on ASC.

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Final Match : Manchester United vs Liverpool
Data : 04/08/2014
Time : 08:00 PM
Location : Miami, FL - Sun Life Stadium

Manchester United
Winning against Liverpool = 20
ASC => AQU => Saturn
MC => Scorp => Mars

Liverpool
Winning against Manchester United = 13
DSC => Leo => Sun
IC => Tat => Venus

Bodily Placement

1. Lord#7 is inside 7th house => DSC.

Bodily Aspect

1. Moon trine Lord#7 on 6 degree => DSC (Accepted since extra time or penalties are possible here).
2. Moon is separating from oppose POF (Ignore that condition) , consider it is apply only.

Antisicon Placement

1. ALord#1 on 1st cusp (bring nothing , ignore it).

Antisicon Aspect

1. Lord#4 conjunct APOF (Only case that we will consider APOF aspect if it is with Lord#1 or Lord#7 , so this should be ignored as well).

Therefor , I am expecting Underdog/Liverpool to win this game.

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The chart is wrong I thought this game will be played on 5th August , but the correct date is 4th August , so analysis was wrong.
 
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